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Bush_Eats_Beef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 05:35 PM
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SOLVED: The "potted meat" and "Mechanically separated chicken" mysteries
http://www.thewavemag.com/pagegen.php?pagename=article&articleid=24695



Surprisingly, this staple of the boxcar hobo diet is available in virtually every supermarket, usually tucked between cans of tuna and pre-made chili. At a total cost of $1.47, we picked up two three-ounce cans of Armour Potted Meat (dubbed “America’s Favorite” on the can) and one 5.5-ounce can of Libby’s Potted Meat Food Product. Total combined nutritional value: 510 calories, 38 grams of fat, and for all you Atkins dieters, a whopping 47 grams of protein and no carbs. While perusing the unique nutritional statistics on the label, our eyes were inevitably drawn to the ingredients: Mechanically separated chicken, beef tripe, partially defatted cooked beef fatty tissue, beef hearts, water, partially defatted cooked pork fatty tissue, salt and less than 2% mustard, garlic, vinegar, sodium erythorbate, sodium nitrite, natural flavors.

While beef hearts and beef tripe (the hard-to-digest muscular lining of the bovine stomach) sounded like things you would only eat on Fear Factor if promised a fabulous cash prize, at least they were recognizable. Mechanically separated chicken just sounded evil. Without delay, we dialed the 800 number on the Armour can to get some answers. “Mechanically separated chicken (MSC) is just chicken that has been separated by a machine,” claimed “Cindy,” a customer service representative from the Dial Corporation, owner of Armour Foods. “If you want to know more, I’ll have to transfer you to a product specialist.”

“These companies are famous for not talking about much of anything, actually,” says Richard Lobb, spokesman for the National Chicken Council, the only chicken industry lobbying group willing to speak on the record about mechanically separated chicken. “They tend to not like to talk about how they fabricate some of these manufactured products.”

Could Lobb shed some light on the mystery of mechanically separated chicken? Unfortunately, yes. “The mechanical separator basically has a screw and a drive, and it just presses the chicken part against a fine screen at incredibly high pressure and the meat is squeezed off through a sieve. It’s usually dark meat from the drumstick or the thigh or possibly the back, which has meat that’s been locked up in the bones.” In other words, these are the scraps that the human separators simply cannot pick off. “I’ve actually seen them make it at the plant,” said Lobb, in a rare moment of frankness. “It looks like pink toothpaste when it comes out of the machine.” MSC can also be found in hot dogs, where it cannot exceed 12% of the contents and is required by law to be labeled as mechanically separated meat. But what about the oxymoronic-sounding “partially defatted cooked beef/pork fatty tissue.” Not even Richard Lobb could explain that one. However, our exhaustive search of supermarket ingredient labels found only one other product which contained this substance: dog food.
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mark11727 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 05:44 PM
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1. Alright, but I *still* like SPAM...
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Bush_Eats_Beef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 06:07 PM
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3. Even with the "machine separated chicken?"
I tried, about a year ago, to relive a part of my childhood by frying up some SPAM.

Within seconds the whole kitchen smelled like rancid grease...and I cooked it in a non-stick pan with no added fat (not even "Pam" spray).

As much as I hate to waste food, I made an exception in this case.

:evilgrin:
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prole_for_peace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 06:03 PM
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2. my mom got upset when she found out my grandmother had given
me a potted meat sandwich. i guess i was about 11 or 12 at the time. my grandmother (dad's mom, very country) ate that kind of stuff all the time. my mom told her (very nicely) that i wasn't to eat it.
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pretzel4gore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 06:19 PM
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5. hmmm
in a crunch, post apocalypse say, i fear you and your mom maybe even be forced to.... i mean, gran's are so generous of themselves anyway, aren't they!
(why your anecdote reminded me of harlan ellison's 'a boy loves his dog' i don't know, but your mom sounds like ....a survivor!) lol
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prole_for_peace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 06:35 PM
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7. post apocalypse all bets are off.
but when there are other choices available....
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Spinzonner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 06:08 PM
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4. Yumm

:puke:
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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 06:22 PM
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6. From the Natl. Food Safety Database: Mechanically Separated Poultry
Mechanically Separated Poultry
is a paste-like poultry product produced by forcing crushed bone and tissue through a sieve or similar device to separate bone from tissue. Mechanically separated poultry has been used in poultry products since 1969 after the National Academy of Sciences found it safe for use. In 1995 the final rule on mechanically separated poultry said it was safe to use without restrictions. However, it must be labeled as "mechanically separated chicken or turkey" in the ingredient statement. The final rule became effective Nov. 1996.

Still pretty damn disgusting. (this was mine, not the NFS')
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hippiepunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 06:40 PM
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8. Wow,
I feel like laughing and puking. :rofl: :puke: But then I have a sick sense of humor.
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smbolisnch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 06:45 PM
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9. That is beyond disgusting.
And on so many levels. :puke:
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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 06:48 PM
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10. Hah! That's nothing. Let me introduce to you...............


Oh, c'mon...it's in MILK GRAVY!!!!
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smbolisnch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 09:08 PM
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13. That cannot be real.
:puke:
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mark11727 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 01:18 AM
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17. That doesn't look like it's Atkins-approved...
...and my GAWD, look at the cholesterol levels!

Instant myocardial infarction in a can. Ug.
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pinniped Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 02:15 AM
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20. Damm, with that many milligrams of cholesterol it would...
have to be consumed over an 11.7 day period.
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pinniped Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 02:09 AM
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19. Sicker than what I thought it was- a chicken sitting on a centrifuge.
Blaaaaah!:puke:
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LincolnMcGrath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 06:49 PM
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11. It is in Bologna and many other products as well.
MMMMMMM Tastes like chicken........paste.
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miss_kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 07:09 PM
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12. looks like pet food.
:puke:
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Purrfessor Donating Member (463 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 09:23 PM
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14. Mechanically separated chicken sounds like it could be Roadkill
eom
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BiggJawn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 09:54 PM
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15. Man, that's kinda unfair....
I used to eat potted meat AND Vienna sausages a LOT before i got worried about all the fat and sodium....

Potted meat didn't used to be so bad. Think fatty pork meatloaf, cooked until it turns to mush, ground fine, packed into a crock, and then sealed with a layer of pork fat poured over the top...

In a fancy restaraunt, they call it a "terrine" and charge you $47.50 for it....

Veenie Weenies wre a LOT better when they didn't put that chicken paste in 'em....

They call me "Iron Chef Redneck BigJawnn"...
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SheWhoMustBeObeyed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 10:36 PM
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16. Yrs ago I knew someone who worked on marketing for Armour Meats
One day he explained how the meats are processed. Potted meat product, he said, is informally known as the "five-T" product, based on what goes into it: tits, twats, tongues, tails and toes. "They use everything but the squeal," he said, relishing my nauseated expression. I've never forgotten it. How could I?
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 01:24 AM
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18. Dave Barry wrote something very similar to this
about 15 years ago.
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the_spectator Donating Member (932 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 02:20 AM
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21. But what did it taste like?
Since you spent the $1.47 for all this research, you could have at least done that as well! :shrug:
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