What is more unnatural?

[Deja Q]

Just a reminder.

[Birthmark]

1. Neither.

Celibacy is the most unnatural thing that I can think of. :)

[elshiva]

24. To some people it comes as natural

to some homosexuality is natural and many not. Also, celibacy can come naturally to some too... :)

[tjwmason]

2. What about those who do both?

Is that doubly unnatural?

[LostInAnomie]

8. Or what about those that do both at the same time?

That would be doubly unnatural to the 2nd power.

[khashka]

9. Have you been getting jiggy

with another man on the computer for 8 hours a day for someone else's profit?

I'm shocked. Speechless. Appalled. And slightly aroused.

:evilgrin:

Khash.

[tjwmason]

20. Certainly not for someone else's profit

but if I say more, this thread would (quite rightly) be locked.

You're certainly not shocked - so stop pretending, nor are you speechless - and there's no way that you're appalled. I think that we need not touch on the final option too much. :P

[khashka]

21. I think I doth protest too much

You know me too well. Can't pull anything past you.

Khash.

[tjwmason]

25. You were just trying to get information out of me

You'd have me air all of my dirty secrets right around the Lounge - yes I do know you too well. :P

[BlueJazz]

3. Your post reminds me of a cool Fantasy >>>

Making passionate love while surfing DU while watching Star Trek while eating buttered Lobster while smoking a joint while reading your favorite Novel while having my nails done while somebody cleans the house.

(Damn..I don't want much)

[Clintmax]

4. Ok...who voted for the two men gettin jiggy with each other option?

:rofl:

[evil_orange_cat]

5. me!

but to be fair... I'm against all anal-butt-sex... not just man on man butt sex

poop comes out of there people... IMO, it's not natural to stick anything up there...

that's not a comment on homosexuality... two men can love each other, that's fine!

I support gay marriage. My father's gay! Well, not really. But if he was I'd love him just the same.

[Deja Q]

6. Why do you think two men ONLY do the rear-entry gig?

Some don't and think it's disgusting too.

(indeed, blood and placentas plop out of the thing most men appreciate...)

[YellowRubberDuckie]

7. Yeah, but not once or more a day...

Unless you're ill then it's further apart than that....I'm just saying!
Duckie

[evil_orange_cat]

11. never said I thought that

nt

[ScreamingMeemie]

22. ...and live human beings!!! Now that could be considered absolutely

disgusting in some twisted minds...and if you go further...poop comes out of the live human beings, at higher rates than adults. ;) :hi:

[Gormy Cuss]

23. hypno, that was the best retort to the 'icky-poop' line.

I'll have to remember that the next time I'm near a homophobe obsessed with visualizations of poop shoots.

[khashka]

10. It ain't actually a gay thang

The number of straight people who do it is, in fact, larger than the entire gay community. And many gay people don't do it.

As for the icky excremental thing.... I assume you don't have a problem with penises? I think I can speak for almost all men when I say we use them for peeing as well.

Khash.

[evil_orange_cat]

13. did you not read my post?

I said I thought all butt sex was gross...

I didn't single out man-butt sex.

the penis has a dual purpose... peeing + reproductive

anus (as far as bodily functions go) is for pooping only...

I'm not making any moral judgements. I'm not saying it's wrong. I'm just stating my personal opinion on the matter. That's all.

[khashka]

15. We'll have to agree to disagree

The anus has a dual purpose too - pooping and pleasure.

But it's a matter of personal taste, I guess. We all like or enjoy different things - and that's cool.

I was just teasing you a bit for your vote in the poll...
(but for your birthday, I'm sending you a copy of Jack Morin's "Anal Pleasure and Health" :evilgrin: )

Khash.

[evil_orange_cat]

17. about "purposes"

a lot of body parts can be designated for "pleasure" though... I am speaking merely in terms of biology and function...

and I don't mean to sound like some prude or anything... like you said, it's a matter of personal taste.

to be honest, I think I voted that way just to be contradictory ;)

[progmom]

12. huh?

:eyes:

[charlie]

14. 99% of the time

the "unnatural" argument against anything is the last refuge of the silly.

[evil_orange_cat]

16. I also think this is a dumb question...

Just thinking about my daily routine... I do a lot of things that "aren't natural".

I wake up in the morning, sleeping in a mattress that was manufactured... I live in a house, not a cave.

I go pee in a toilet. I eat processed food for breakfast. I shower (indoor plumbing isn't natural). I brush my teeth using toothpaste and an eletric toothbrush. I drive to work.

I mean the list goes on.

Judging by the voting, it seems the purpose of this poll is to vote against the notion that gay sex "isn't natural".

That's a standard conservative talking point about homosexuality... that it's "not natural".

But you know what? Who cares? Tons of stuff in our life isn't natural. That doesn't mean it's bad.

As far as sex goes, I think humans (and maybe dolphins) are the only species to have sex for pleasure. So sex for pleasure is most likely "not natural"... Big deal.

And I happen to think that putting something in the orifice that poop comes out is gross... whether it be gay or straight anal sex. I'm somewhat perplexed because I get (slightly) flamed for saying so. Am I not allowed to have an opinion? I didn't comment on the morality of homosexuality. I don't think homosexuality is wrong. I support gay marriage. Some very close friends of my family happen to be homosexuals ( a couple living in MA who got a marriage license).

But as for the question. How do you rank something on a scale of "natural"? How is butt sex more natural than using a computer? Or for that matter, how is driving a car less natural than using a computer or shaving or brushing your teeth or doing any number of things that modern technology allows us to do.

I don't understand it.

I don't mean to offend anyone here. I'm just trying to explain my point of view.

[short bus president]

18. other:

edited again. :hi: hi hypmotoad!

[evil_orange_cat]

19. also... religion isn't natural

forgot to mention this...

I'm not really a nature expert. But I don't see any animals that have religion.

If religion were natural, it wouldn't need to be drilled into children's heads.

[progmom]

26. wow. you are just itching for a flame war, aren't you?

:eyes:

[khashka]

29. He's on a tear

The way cats sometimes get... running around the house and acting wild. He'll calm down and be nice, in a few minutes.

Khash.

[tjwmason]

27. If religion were unnatural

It wouldn't be manifested in every human community that has existed.

Just saying.

[In_The_Wind]

28. do you really need to ask