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Beware the Beast Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 11:44 AM
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Do you buy shit music based solely on political ideology?
Is there an artist you didn't give two titties and a donut about until you found out they were liberal?

I felt that way about John Denver. He fuckin' rules, man.
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ghostsofgiants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 11:46 AM
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1. I'd probaly disregard bands because they're conservatives...
But I wouldn't buy shitty music just because a band is liberal. Good Charlotte, for example, are liberals, but they remain one of my most despised bands of all time.
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Beware the Beast Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 11:51 AM
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2. Yeah. Them and Green Day.
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Zuni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 12:00 PM
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10. Green day fucking blow
sorry. pop punk is a lame ass musical genre
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ghostsofgiants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 12:05 PM
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13. I don't hate Green Day, but they're definitely ridiculously overrated
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henslee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 02:50 PM
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52. I like them. I like that they stick together. That they don't deviate
from what they essentially are -- a garage punk rock band. They have grown on me. I like that they don't fuck with the formula. If I had to have a band become big, I am glad it is them.
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SouthoftheBorderPaul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 04:45 PM
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59. ...
Edited on Thu Sep-15-05 04:45 PM by SouthoftheBorderPaul
:cry:

You'd hate my band.
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defiant1 Donating Member (452 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 11:53 AM
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3. Here, here....
There are plenty of bands whose views I respect but whose music is awful.

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Kellanved Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 11:54 AM
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4. actually yes
Ok, shit music might be saying too much. But yeah, by merely musical criteria neither of those would have ended up on my CD shelf.






:P
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tigereye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 12:13 PM
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25. what?
Bach, probably the greatest classical composer ever, wouldn't have ended up on your shelf without some ideological component? Oh, KV.
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Kellanved Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 12:43 PM
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47. look closer
Edited on Thu Sep-15-05 12:43 PM by Kellanved
;-)

The third musician from the left.
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tigereye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 04:40 PM
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57. Yeltsin?
my eyes ain't as good as they used to be. Enlighten me, please. :)
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Kellanved Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 05:09 PM
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60. Helmut Schmidt
:D
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I Have A Dream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 11:55 AM
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5. I bought the Dixie Chicks' CD.
Their music is probably really good to someone who likes that kind of music, but I don't like it. However, I figured that they were probably losing a lot of sales because they had the courage to speak up about B*, so I wanted to support them. I'm glad that I did!
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TrogL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 06:09 PM
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65. So did I, and I hate country music
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 11:56 AM
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6. Oh fucking hell no
and, conversely, I don't avoid music or movies with known and DU scorned right-wingers just because they are right-wing
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 11:59 AM
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9. What?! You mean, you go to Bruce Willis movies?!?!!?!
Edited on Thu Sep-15-05 12:00 PM by Rabrrrrrr
But he's the enemy!!!!!!!!!! Waaaaah waaaaaah :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: Wahhhhhhhh!!! You've invaded my comfort zone, waaaaaaahhh!! Liberals don't support rightwing artists, waaaaaaah. You're not a REAL liberal because you disagree with me!!!! WAAAAAAH!!!







And for one last good effect,






WAAAAAAHHHHHH!!!!!
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 12:01 PM
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11. You think I'm going to deprive myself of Monica Bellucci running
around all hot and sweaty in Africa with her shirt half open just because Bruce Willis is in it?

I THINK NOT Good sir, I think NOT
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 12:05 PM
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14. Freeper!
I wouldn't pass that up, either, quite honestly. :-)

I wish they'd put me in charge of hollywood - the whole movie would be her running. Fuck "plot" and "story" - let's see her running! Same with Natalie Portman.

Let's have movies that are just the hot babes bathing, showering, running, covering themselves with whipped cream and chocolate, that sort of stuff.
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 12:07 PM
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15. running and moaning and playing in sprinklers
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 12:08 PM
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17. Nakedly tossing muffins to each other in a field of heather
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 12:11 PM
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glistening with water droplets
and tugging aside their panties
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 12:12 PM
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23. Accidentally spilling barrels of baby oil, forcing them to roll around
for a couple hours in the spill
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 12:15 PM
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29. then standing over a subway ventilation grate
and doing their best Marilyn Monroe impersonations
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 12:17 PM
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32. o fuck it
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Hugin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 12:19 PM
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33. Oh, my!
8)
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 12:22 PM
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34. Is that progmom?
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 12:24 PM
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36. yeah, progmom's got a fine rack alright
you should see the _other_ pictures :wow:







:hide:
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 12:25 PM
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39. .
:wow: :wow: :wow:
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 03:59 PM
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55. Your instructions in the subject line are absolutely unnecessary
I already knew what to do! :)


Oh,,,and thanks for the photo
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 12:23 PM
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35. Playing naked volleyball on the beach
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 12:25 PM
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38. then frolicing in the surf
and asking for lotion application
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 12:26 PM
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41. And accidentally applying it in the wrong spots
with lots of giggling and bouncing and request to throw the ball back and forth again but their hands are too slippery to hold it so they keep dropping...
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 12:29 PM
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42. and falling out of their way too small tops
while dreamily sucking on lolipops
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 12:37 PM
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45. And loofah-ing each other to sudsy perfection in the shower
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 12:39 PM
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46. then climbing aboard the sybian for a volumous climactic ending
:D
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 12:48 PM
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48. I gotta go take a shower...
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 12:55 PM
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49. *brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr*
:hide:
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 02:41 PM
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50. Wow, these posts are still here!
Man, that was a cold shower.

But essential.
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 02:52 PM
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53. yes?
Have you seen my windows wallpaper?



mmmm Monica

still, my desktop at home is better :evilgrin:
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 03:49 PM
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54. Nice!
:woohoo:

:pant:
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 12:12 PM
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21. So you went to see "The Passion of the Christ"
seriously - admit it!!

She was Mary Magdeline
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 12:13 PM
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26. And she was hot!
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progmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 11:56 AM
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7. It's the same problem I have with people who buy crappy Christian Music.
My brother used to be heavily involved in Christian Youth groups and listened primarily to "Christian Music" - you know....really bad pop/rap/metal that only sells because it mentions God. I mean - that shit was atrocious, but he ate it up.

So yeah - I have to appreciate the music on an aesthetic level first.
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tjwmason Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 12:13 PM
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27. Agreed
Christian rock is wetter than a dish-cloth still floating in the sink - I can't see why anybody buys it. :crazy:
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 11:58 AM
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8. Politics are irrelevant. The art stands on its own, or fails on its own.
Though I make one exception for hate music and white supremacy music and black supremacy and (insert race, demographic, culture, whatever) supremacy music.

If I don't like a person's music, I sure as hell ain't gonna start liking it just because I find out their a flaming liberal. Nor will I hate a music because I find out it's a flaming freeper.

Judging the merit of art on the politics of the artist is assinine.
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last_texas_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 12:04 PM
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12. Hmmm
Well I did look into Steve Earle after I heard the controversy surrounding the politics in his songs with Jerusalem, but it turned out to be a pretty good album.

Otherwise, an artist being liberal may make me get into their music more than I already did (I like pretty much everything), but is not the sole basis for me liking their music. And there are a handful of artist that even knowing their liberal doesn't make me like their music any more.
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tigereye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 12:15 PM
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28. but Steve Earle is good and political
not good because he's political.
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last_texas_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 02:45 PM
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51. Yeah I agree
He's just an example of an artist I initially looked into solely based upon his politics, 'cause I usually don't do that.
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tigereye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 04:39 PM
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56. I do sometimes, but usually I like them and their music
Steve Earle is amazing. Would love to see one of his shows sometime.
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tjwmason Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 12:08 PM
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16. No - I don't let ideology affect me.
The world of classical music is far less politicised (thankfully), and quite frankly I've got no idea what (if any) political ideas various choirs, orchestras, soloists &c. have expressed.

I would note, finally, that recently Wagner was performed in Israel for the first time - that is a major step forward to my mind.
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Midlodemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 12:09 PM
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18. Well, yes and no.
I did buy Green Day's album because of the ideology, but I probably won't listen to it too much.

Same for the new Rolling Stones CD.

I did it more for support than anything else.
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tigereye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 12:15 PM
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31. actually the new Rolling Stones album
is supposed to be quite good, more like their old-style stuff.
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 12:11 PM
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19. I tried listening to that new Stone's "Sweet Neo-Con"
I'd rather have root canal without novocaine.

And I adore Green Day!!! Just because they happen to put out an album that actualy appealed to more than 3 people in this world doesn't make their music crap!
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Midlodemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 12:13 PM
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24. I liked that song.
I haven't listened to the rest of the CD, though.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 12:11 PM
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20. Yes-I buy every new Ted Nugent album
His later work is deeply introspective and astute in today's paradigm
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 12:12 PM
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22. I usually dont let political idealogy affect what music I listen to...
Doesnt matter if the band is liberal or conservative, if the music sucks, it sucks!
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johnnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 12:15 PM
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30. I buy music I like
If the music is good, it's good (to me).
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 12:24 PM
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37. Hell no.
I love Loretta Lynn and don't care that she's a republican.

and on the flip side I once was told that I should "support queer music" ..... this was from an ex of mine that was very politcal. Well, some of this "music" was crap.
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motely36 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 12:25 PM
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40. I bought all of the Dixie Chicks CDs
after they dissed Bush in London

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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 12:30 PM
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43. Part of my ideology is not to buy crap.
Mega ditto on Denver, though.

Springsteen is very talented, but I still don't like him. Just not my kind of sound.

Most of those gingoist so-called country singers are not something I would listen to anyway.
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mvd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 12:33 PM
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44. I love most "liberal music"
Like Green Day, Dixie Chicks, Bruce Springsteen, Indigo Girls, etc.

Not crazy about Bright Eyes or Ani DiFranco, but they have both made good liberal songs - so I don't rule any liberal artist out.
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meganmonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 04:42 PM
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58. I got into Steve Earle that way -
his John Walker's Blues...heard a bit about it on NPR or something and bought that album. Now I am a big fan.
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Gregorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 05:20 PM
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63. I loved Steve Earle the moment he covered Breed.
That blew me off my feet. I had seen him playing with bluegrass musicians. Then suddenly WHAM! That was so cool.
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jpgray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 05:10 PM
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61. Hell, I buy shit music just to listen to the shittiness
It's why I'm a proud Soft Machine fan. :patriot:

Would I buy shit music I wasn't interested in hearing? No.
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Gregorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 05:18 PM
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62. Bruce Springstein
Edited on Thu Sep-15-05 05:18 PM by Gregorian
When I saw him on stage with Kerry, he got a free pass from me. Never liked him before that, because I thought he was a repub.

And just the opposite. Billion Dollar Babies can rot in hell. Damnit! I liked Alice Cooper, too.

And then there's Wesley Willis. Gotta love him.
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MrSlayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 05:45 PM
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64. No, good music is good music and shit is shit.
I don't really care what politics artists follow. Liberal or not John Denver sucked.
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