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suzbaby Donating Member (906 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-05 02:49 PM
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"Generation Y" -- I found the definition!
Thank you wikipedia. :)
The recent thread on Generation X prompted me to investigate what generation those of us born in the 80's and 90's are suppose to be a part of and what characteristics we're suppose to have.
So, for those others who may have been wondering.....or maybe you weren't wonder and are just reading this for the heck of of....enjoy the following excerpt from Wikipedia.

"Members of Generation Y are adverse to labels such as "The Echo Boom" or "Generation Y" because of demonstrated differences between their generation and "Boomers" or "Xers," which is why they prefer the term "Millennial Generation." "Millies," as they are called by proponents of generational theory, have very unique characteristics both as a generation and as individuals within the generation. They are enormously tolerant of differences in belief, creed, race, and lifestyle and feel comfortable exerting a large degree of individuality even while interacting with others who are very different.
In contrast to the typical "Baby Boomer" attitude, Millies seek to reach consensus rather than to exert influence. Many Millies view the polarization between "Democrats" and "Republicans" to be prohibitive, and mostly take a moderate view. Even so, the Boom Generation and Generation Y share a strangely symbiotic relationship. Due to the cultural popularity of parenting during the period in which Generation Y was born, their Boomer parents created an atmosphere that focused on children and development to the extent that parents became intensely intertwined in their child's life. Even into college years, Boomer parents display an unprecedented control over their child's life, even going so far as to write their child’s college essays. At the same time, the generation will lament their kids "who can't do anything for themselves." Still, Generation Y is still largely a youth generation that is beholden to their parents for support, both monetary and emotional.
Generation X plays a mentoring role to the younger Generation Y. Dominated by Baby Boomer parents and influence, the stereotypical Generation X attitude of withdrawal and cynicism seems refreshing and honest to members of Generation Y. Attracted to the "Xtreme" culture of Generation X, many members of Generation Y reject attempts to be sold artificially popularized trends, and exhibit highly individualized tastes."
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ZombieNixon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-05 03:05 PM
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1. Boy, we sound like a buncha bums, don't we?
Edited on Sat Sep-17-05 03:08 PM by ZombieNixon
This is why I resent authority. A bunch of self-proclaimed "experts" pontificating on subjects they know very little about.

Oh, Welcome to DU, BTW. :hi:
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suzbaby Donating Member (906 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-05 03:17 PM
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2. Thanks for the welcome
At least we're bums who are very tolerant of others:eyes:
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ZombieNixon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-05 03:18 PM
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3. Me personally, I seek to exert influence through building consensus.
Who says you can't have the best of both worlds?
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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-05 03:26 PM
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4. I bet those arrogant punk millies
do not believe in rules. I think you are supposed to excerpt things and provide a link. :o

Maybe I am just a young boomer, but I thought millies were the ones who did the Xtreme sports. At least it has become bigger in the last decade and movies like triple X were aimed at younger audiences. Your quote did not give any dates, but my outlook pegs the boomers as 1942-1961, generation X as 1962-1981, and millies as 1982-2001. I get those spans from the book "13th Generation: abort, retry, ignore?" (the joke is that that phrase is an old computer error message, and usually when you got it, it meant "you're fu#$ed, your data is lost", because retry or ignore usually gave you the same message again until you hit abort) It would be easier, perhaps to do it by decades. I think there are differences between Xers born in the 1960s and those born in the 1970s. Perhaps those of us on the old end are more like the previous generation and those on the young end are more like the following generation.
Those generationalizations are kinda fun, but also should be taken with some salt.
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suzbaby Donating Member (906 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-05 03:29 PM
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6. My apologies
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suzbaby Donating Member (906 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-05 03:33 PM
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7. I think "millies"
Edited on Sat Sep-17-05 04:19 PM by suzbaby
are suppose to be very closely related to Generation X but with a bit more technology and perhaps less cynicism....but heck it feels a little weird to lump an entire generation of people together under the banner of one set of characteristics.

I can't spell, had to edit
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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-05 04:18 PM
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11. exactly
They talk about a "typical" member of the generation, but there are wide variances in all generations, that not every millie is technologically savvy and there are varying degrees of cynicism. How many of todays kids have their own computer and a high speed connection? Lots, maybe, but not all.
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ZombieNixon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-05 03:29 PM
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5. So I guess the next generation (GenX's kids) are GenZ.
Edited on Sat Sep-17-05 03:36 PM by ZombieNixon
So what'll they call our kids? They're either gonna hafta be creative or start using Greek letters!

Edited because I don't seem to like question marks.
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suzbaby Donating Member (906 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-05 03:57 PM
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8. So how many "millies" are out there in the DU Lounge?
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ZombieNixon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-05 04:00 PM
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9. I know not.
Every so often, someone will come up with a "How old are you" demographic poll. We have some substantial numbers, but I think most DUers are probably Boomers.
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suzbaby Donating Member (906 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-05 04:08 PM
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10. There must be more Boomers and Gen Xers around...
the other post about Gen X got a plethora of replies.

That's my favorite word....plethora. Just feel the way it rolls off your tounge. :)
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ZombieNixon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-05 04:18 PM
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12. Thoroughly a Plethora of Foibles indeed
Edited on Sat Sep-17-05 04:33 PM by ZombieNixon
Fun with fun words. :D

Consider the fact that GenY, by most standards began around 1977 and ended in maybe 1997. That's anyone born during the Carter, Reagan or Bush I years as well as Clinton's first term. Most people become politically aware between the ages of 14 and 18. Say 14 at the youngest, so that rules out people born during the Clinton years for being on a poltical message board, so already only 75% of GenY would be prone to being on a DU type site. Take the "politically aware" figure of 75% and divide in two to approximate how many would be Democrats. In fact lets be generous and make it 60%. 60% of 75% is 45%. Now take that and multiply it by the ACTUAL number of politically aware GenY-ers. Best guess? The percentage of 18-29 year olds as voter turnout in the last election: 17%. .45 * .17 = 7.65%. So only about 8% of our generation would be prone to surfing DU, and it's doubtful that all of them are here. It's gonna be a while before we start shaping the political scene. Don't expect a GenY president until about 2032 at the earliest.
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Left Is Write Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-05 04:46 PM
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13. I'm supposed to be in Gen X (born in 1966), and two of my children
were born n the 80s and 90s, apparently making them Generation Y.

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Ignacio Upton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-05 07:44 PM
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17. Generation Epsilon Kappa Phi
Or "Gen Frat" :silly:
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-05 07:12 PM
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14. It's all an attempt to put you into marketing niches
ignore all of that X, Y, or Z nonsense.
Just something dreamt up by half-bright hustlers in order to sell you shit you don't really need
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Fleshdancer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-05 07:18 PM
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15. I'm still confused.
all throughout high school I was told that I was a generation Xer. I was born in 1977 and graduated HS in 1995. What the hell am I? The gen X thread says I'm too young but I remember when the gen Y phrase was coined and it was for people much younger than me. :shrug:
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Ignacio Upton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-05 07:43 PM
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16. Here's my guess
Edited on Sat Sep-17-05 07:44 PM by Ignacio Upton
Baby Boomers: 1945-1964

Generation X: 1964-1980

Generation Y: 1980-1994/95 (according to some people, but I don't know the reason for stopping at 1994-1995.)
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suzbaby Donating Member (906 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-05 10:51 PM
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18. Wikipedia says
that generation Y can start as early as 1978, but it's more commonly referred to as starting in 1980.
Who knows? No one can definitely say when a generation begins and ends.
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