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Chicago Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 07:05 PM
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Roger Waters wrote an opera....
I wanna puke...
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swag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 07:11 PM
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1. An appropriate response.
The Trent Reznor of his generation. Composer of tedious litanies of insignificant grouses against life.

What a fucking creep.
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 07:14 PM
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3. Yeah, he's like that talentless Mozart hack
He only copied those other guys.
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swag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 07:16 PM
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5. So you agree with Glenn Gould about Mozart.
I certainly prefer Bach my own bad self.
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 07:18 PM
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6. Personally, I have to go with Right Said Fred
because they broke all sorts of ground talking about their shirts. Nobody ever done that.

:silly:
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swag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 07:22 PM
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8. To each his own.
I may not agree with what you say, but I'll defend until my next coffee break your right to say it.
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 07:25 PM
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10. Did I mention that on my weekends I work with
DEA appointed hit-squads to shut down non-Folgers coffee makers?
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swag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 07:28 PM
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12. I knew that you were a warrior for good.
I just never imagined that your "good" would do me such evil. C'est la guerre.

Still like your sig photo, by the way.
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hickman1937 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 09:44 PM
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25. Which other guys did Mozart copy?
Or did I once again miss the irony?
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GirlinContempt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 07:16 PM
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4. SWAG
Edited on Thu Sep-22-05 07:17 PM by GirlinContempt
stop stealing my heart <3

(as in, I agree)
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swag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 07:22 PM
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7. If we ever meet, you and I,
we will know all of one another's secret handshakes.
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GirlinContempt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 07:25 PM
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9. I have a friend like you
in real life, and I am forever finishing his sentences, and he is always speaking my mind. Tis a beautiful thing.

Dissing Trent Reznor is the fastest way to get into my good books, but you were already well ensconced there, so, where does that put you now?
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swag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 07:31 PM
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13. Where does that put me now?
Inside a heart scribbled in red ballpoint pen on the back of your five subject notebook, I hope.

Then this relationship would have some symmetry.
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GirlinContempt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 07:38 PM
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19. I think I just fell
a little internet-in love with you, if I wasn't already *swoon*

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swag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 10:57 PM
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28. Cheezles,
My pipes haven't felt this clean since fuckacamgirl ate my AMEX.
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 11:45 PM
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33. Don't want to jump right in...
but I met Trent way long ago...

he sold keyboards here in Cleveland...

He sold me my first Midi computer program and spent over and hour on the phone talking me through the set=up....

Nice guy, overrated and way to dependant on shock....

Has a lot of talent....

A saner version of that other jerk off from Ohio, the kid from akron, what's his name, you know, freaked everyone out a few years ago....

Anyway, they all can trace their origins back to Alice Cooper.....

I wonder if Trent will turn republican and golf with alice someday....

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swag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-05 07:11 AM
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41. Very cool story.
Thank youl
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hickman1937 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 07:12 PM
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2. Oh well at least he's still got his looks.
Can't say the same for some of his co-classic rocker mates.
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Elidor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 07:26 PM
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11. I'll probably buy it, even though I'm not into opera
If it's even half as good as Amused to Death, it'll be worth the money. And maybe, now that he's gotten this out of his system, he'll write some more conventional stuff.
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Scoots Donating Member (196 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 07:32 PM
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14. Absolutely
Amused to Death is one of my favorites. On top of that I actually like a lot of real (i.e. not Andrew Lloyd Webber) opera.
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Elidor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 07:35 PM
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18. lol, it was all I could do not to include a dig at Webber.
That fucking hack. Thanks for encouraging me. :evilgrin:
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 07:32 PM
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15. Let me get on this bandwagon early
PINK FLOYD SUCKS
THE BEATLES SUCK
LED ZEPPELIN SUCK
THE WHO SUCK
THE ROLLING STONES SUCK
THE ANIMALS SUCK
THE YARDBIRDS SUCK
EVERYTHING SUCKS!
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SOteric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 07:35 PM
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16. Perfect. I can use my musical tastes to do the Hoovering up.
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swag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 07:35 PM
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17. Well,
that's certainly one way of looking at it.
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RetroLounge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 09:35 PM
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22. THE YARDBIRDS SUCK???
Are you freaking kidding me?

Their third album with Trant Reznor on drums, Roger Waters on Oboe and Sonny Bono playing the Harpsichord was freaking brilliant.

Heathen...

RL
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 09:44 PM
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24. ROFL!
Oh, stop, I nearly busted a gut laughing.
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hickman1937 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 11:08 PM
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29. And?
Who doesn't? Next list.
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Dukkha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 08:42 PM
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20. this is old news
Ca Ira was completed years ago.

I haven't heard it yet so I'll reserve my judgment. As big of a Pink Floyd fan I am, rock stars crossing over to a medium like opera usually produces disastrous results, like Paul McCartney's opera.
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 09:10 PM
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21. And I will take THIS bandwagon right now
Roger Waters was nothing without David Gilmour!
David Gilmour was nothing without Roger Waters!
Pink Floyd sucked without Syd!
Pink Floyd sucked with Syd!
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hickman1937 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 11:10 PM
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30. You are young.
You have no idea the dreck that we waded through in those days.
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 11:24 PM
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31. Okay, that makes not one iota of sense
But, you know, so long as you're "feelin' it", I guess that's all that matters.
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hickman1937 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 11:37 PM
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32. We had the Doors and their obscure crap, Uriah Heep and their
hit or miss stuff, the Who, never as good on records as live, and a lot of Tommy Rowe. Rolling Stones were just a lot of posers, so we stuck with Motown, and Pink Floyd. Maybe it was just Detroit, and it's all subjective.
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-05 12:22 AM
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34. I totally agree with what you say, but I see why your posts make no sense
Edited on Fri Sep-23-05 12:23 AM by Rabrrrrrr
in the context in which you have posted them is because I can only assume that you meant to respond to the original post, and not to me. Since what you are saying has absolutely nothing to do with what I was saying.

But you are right - the 60s, like any period of music, had much more crap than good stuff.
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hickman1937 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-05 12:43 AM
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35. Pink Floyd did not suck with Sid.
He was trying shit, exploring sounds. It did not suck without him. Gilmore came in to mimic him but was a much better musician. The music got better. It did not suck. You have to hear it juxtaposed against the mostly dreck we were hearing at the time. You can't do that without a time machine so this whole argument is stupid. Sorry. I shouldn't have posted.
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-05 12:46 AM
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36. Ah, you missed my sarcasm, then
Edited on Fri Sep-23-05 12:49 AM by Rabrrrrrr
I was pre-emptively making the argument of those who feel the need to make divisions in the music, such as "floyd suckewd pre syd" or "floyd sucked post syd", etc., which argument I was preemptively making I do not agree with.


This is the same pre-eptive strike that DS1 made a few posts earlier than mine, cf. his post with subject line that contains the word "bandwagon".

Because, you see, sometimes in threads like these (in which the OP makes mention of a specific musician, preferably one who had been in a famous band), we get the people who feel the need to point out what "sucks" and what doesn't about the band/bands that said person was involved with, post-, pre-, and while said person was in the band, as well as peripheral bands, the usual litany of gratuitous unrelated judgments on other bands.
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hickman1937 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-05 12:55 AM
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37. oh. Now I feel the fool.
Sorry. In the words of the immortal Emily Litella, never mind.
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tarkus Donating Member (780 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 09:40 PM
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23. You must have forgotten that Waters is the man
And that The Final Cut is perhaps the greatest album ever made.

I assure you this is in fact a sarcasm free post.
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Chichiri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 10:11 PM
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26. Is it good?
What? I'm just asking . . .
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Chicago Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-22-05 10:36 PM
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27. Its Opera! Like a real opera, pretentious stupid opera with fat
opera singers who sing so you can't understand a word. Its about the French Revolution.
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MirrorAshes Donating Member (942 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-05 12:57 AM
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38. tough crowd tonight...
i actually think it sounds interesting. no idea if it'll be good, but its intriguing, to say the least. maybe it'll make me appreciate opera more, who knows.
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MN ChimpH8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-05 01:00 AM
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39. AFAIK, it's called "Ca Ira"
and it might be useful to hear the piece before condemning it. Philip Glass has written operas too, and some of them are quite stunningly beautiful. See "Akhnaten." I, for one, will be anxious to hear it.
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Chicago Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-05 01:56 AM
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40. Opera is pretentious and outside of the reach of 99.9999% of the people
and should be destroyed.

(IMO)
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tjwmason Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-23-05 07:42 AM
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42. Somebody (I forget who) wrote an opera which lasted for about 4 minutes
Personally I'll go with the Wagner which lasts 4 hours. :D
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