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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-05 01:19 PM
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When you hear the term "The City" refering to a specific city
what city comes to mind for you?

Having lived in the Bay Area, going to "The City" meant San Francisco.
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TroubleMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-05 01:21 PM
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1. New York, and I've never lived there.

Whenever I hear somebody say "The City" I assume they're talking about NYC.
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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-05 01:22 PM
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2. Wash. D.C.
Because I lived in the area for several years.

Otherwise, if it's the East Coast, people are usually talking about NYC.
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-05 01:25 PM
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4. I lived in NoVa
back in the eighties and don't recall the term being used - as I think that everyone considered themselves as part of DC. Except when it came to drinking ages and laws - then there was a distinction (each area had different laws - so where one went to get beer or liquor... varied and then I remember distinctions being made. How sad is it that I remember that?)
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northzax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 09:18 PM
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81. people from Arlington and Bethesda
say they're from DC, it's like people from Trenton saying their from New York...they're OTP (over the perimeter) and deep down, they know it.
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kansasblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-05 03:42 PM
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27. DC... we called it the 'district', not the city.
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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-05 01:23 PM
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3. Chicago. What else?
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ZombieNixon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-05 03:46 PM
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28. Other "cities" don't actually exist. n/t
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barb162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-05 10:29 PM
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53. same here
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yewberry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-05 01:26 PM
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5. "City" is NY, "town" is Boston.
Obviously, I'm from the northeast.
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-05 01:30 PM
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6. We never seem to refer to Cleveland as the city...
We talk about going to areas...

Such as I'm goin to Treamont...

Or I'm headed downtown...

Or out by Case....

Or to the Flats...

Or down to the Warehouse district...

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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-05 01:46 PM
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7. for me it depends on where I'm living
Edited on Sat Sep-24-05 01:48 PM by maddezmom
in the past it's meant NYC, Boston, Wash DC, Phoenix, Bogota, Miami, Lima, Houston and now London.

But since I grew up in NY, my first thought is NYC.
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-05 02:01 PM
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8. Didn't think of DC as "the city" when I lived there
as the whole metro area, at the time, seemed like one contintiguous area - so the city was a distinction without meaning (more likely to refer to Old Town, or George Town, or Capitol Hill, or worse to metro stops.)

Folks didn't refer to Detroit as "the city" - not likely to hear, for example, UofM students talking about going into "the city" tonight (per Detroit)

Hey - living in Indiana - we really don't have a cosmopolitan area to call "the City" - Indy just doesn't count - now in the nw part of the state the city would definitiely be Chicago.

For me the only place I have lived where "the City" had a distinct reference was the Bay Area (as there are numerous distinct cities in the region - but only one SF!)

I was guessing that while the reference is regional - that NYC would be the one that would get national recognition :D
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-05 03:33 PM
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23. ya know now that you mention it
it was either The Hill, G-Town, Old Town, Dupont Circle or Pentagon City....I guess we always referred to exactly where we were going. :D
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-05 03:36 PM
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25. curious - when were you in that region?
I lived there from '84-'87 - and with the exception of Pentagon City (which was just getting built up) those were all the places that we would head to.
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TroubleMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-05 04:53 PM
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38. or "I'm from Northeast," "I'm from Southeast," ect.

I lived in NOVA about 8 years.
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-05 02:14 PM
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9. The City......could only mean.......
San Francisco.......

:woohoo:

And what magic there was in that phrase.."We're going to the City..."

It never failed.......
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 10:35 AM
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68. Hey Peggy!!
Did you make it to the march in LA yesterday?
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 06:54 PM
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75. Alas, I did not......
Did you go?

Sorry to be late responding...I'm just now reviewing my 48 hour posts file......



:hi:
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MaryBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 01:58 PM
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72. Yes! S.F.,
and you hit it with "what magic there was in that phrase"!
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 06:56 PM
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76. Thank you!
Every now and then, I get lucky with the phrases that come from somewhere in my brain....

And that was one of those times.....:hi:
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-05 02:16 PM
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10. I grew a few miles outside Boston so that was "The city" for me
but i live in California now so San Francisco is The City even though i live 10 miles from downtown Sacramento.
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-05 02:27 PM
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12. The City still means SF to me
even though I am now about 2,500 miles away!
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-05 02:29 PM
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13. San Francisco is my favorite city of all time.
there is just something about it, my husb and and i take our daughter there about every 6 weeks or so for the day and she wants us to move there so much, i would love to live there as well but we just can't afford it. He works in Cupertino so the commute would be doable for him, he was renting a place in Pacifica during the week and driving to work everyday without a huge hassle.
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-05 02:31 PM
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15. before reading the rent thing I was thinking... a daily Sacramento
to Cupertino commute... aye yie yie... the costs were escalating when I left the area (circa '99) and I imagine they are that much worse now.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-05 02:34 PM
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16. yes, a dump in SF and not even roper SF starts at $500k and it still needs
a wrecking ball and the other problem is that thanks to prop 13 your property tax is based on the purchase price. It's one of those dreams for us that hopefully one day we can do.
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Momgonepostal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-05 02:18 PM
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11. SF for me too
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arwalden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-05 02:30 PM
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14. The District of Columbia
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tjdee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-05 02:44 PM
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17. New York City. Only possibility.
No matter where I've been, if someone says they're going to the city, I think they mean NYC.

The most hilarious time was when I was near Buffalo and someone said they were going to "the city". Buffalo! "The city"! :rofl:
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Kickin_Donkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-05 02:54 PM
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18. San Francisco ...
I'm a Northern Californian, and the City meant San Fran. It was different, elegant, majestic, towering over everything around it.

We used to get dressed up in our Sunday best for a day in the City, but that changed in the mid-'70s.
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aint_no_life_nowhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-05 02:55 PM
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19. San Francisco is the only one to which I've heard that applied
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-05 02:59 PM
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20. Friggin' dooop
Edited on Sat Sep-24-05 03:01 PM by jobycom
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-05 03:00 PM
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21. New Orleans. Growing up
in Lyman, MS, when you went to town it was Gulfport, and when you went to the city it was New Orleans.
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fleabert Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-05 03:03 PM
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22. New York first, since I lived in Buffalo for a bit, now SF, since I am Sac
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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-05 03:36 PM
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24. NOLA or Senloo
"left a good job in THE CITY
working for the man every night and day ..."
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-05 03:38 PM
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26. just Rollin'
:D
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Crazy Guggenheim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-05 03:49 PM
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29. San Francisco.
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skygazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-05 03:55 PM
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30. New York, always
I live in the SF Bay Area now but I still think of The City as New York.
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China_cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-05 03:57 PM
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31. Never heard any other city called 'The City'
People would sneer at you if you said 'San Fran', 'SF', or (worse) 'Frisco'. We'd even hitchike with signs that just said 'City' on them.

I lived in Hillsborough at the time and would go up to city on weekends.

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yellowdogintexas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-05 03:59 PM
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32. New York City, is "The City"
when I was growing up, going into town meant the little towns all over the local area. We would specifically say where we were going if it were to Nashville or Louisville, etc.

so NYC is my instant brain reaction to that descriptor
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tedoll78 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-05 04:12 PM
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33. When I was a child growing-up in Kenner, it was New Orleans.
When I went off to college at Ole Miss, it was Memphis.

And now that I live in Austin, the term isn't used much any more.

When I move back to Louisiana in a few years, it'll mean New Orleans once again.
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tjwmason Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-05 04:29 PM
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34. London - specifically the "Square Mile"
The financial district covering (roughly speaking) the City of London (which is very different from Greater London).

If one is referring to London more generally it's "Town" (as in "I'm going to Town"), but the tone of voice has to express the subtle difference between London and one of the near-by towns.

Anywhere else pales in comparison.
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mcar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-05 04:30 PM
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35. New York
and it's always annoyed me that people refer to it as "the City." There are others.
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flamingyouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-05 04:38 PM
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36. San Francisco for me too
:hi:
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Telly Savalas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-05 04:45 PM
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37. Tonganoxie, Kansas
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AVulgarianHue Donating Member (583 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-05 05:49 PM
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39. The City of Los Angeles n/t
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ikojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-05 06:01 PM
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40. In the St Louis area, even though everyone in the 631xx ZIP
code area says they live in St Louis, when someone says "the city" they mean the City of St Louis.

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deadparrot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-05 10:27 PM
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52. Yes, indeed.
The "city" is south city, which I'm a native of. :D
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BuddhaGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-05 08:06 PM
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41. San Francisco
is "the City" for me. I never tire of the view as I cross the GG Bridge from Marin.
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bertha katzenengel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-05 08:11 PM
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42. The City is San Francisco. n/t
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miss_kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-05 08:12 PM
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43. When I hear 'The City'
I think of London's financial district, the actual city of London.
However, I was born and raised in Seattle. We just never called it 'The City'.
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Mayberry Machiavelli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-05 08:15 PM
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44. S.F. is the only place I've known with the arrogance to refer to itself as
"THE City".

I've never heard that anywhere else.

S.F. is great, one of my favorite cities, but the "The City" business is just about the most arrogant obnoxious thing I've heard. I remember reading this in the Chronicle or Examiner some time ago when I was staying in the area for a several weeks.
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Hell Hath No Fury Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-05 10:03 PM
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47. Growing up here...
terms like "the city" were just used as identifiers. You were from/going to the city or East Bay (for anything east of the BB) or San Jose (anything south of 92), or Marin (for anything north of the GGB). Even folks who live in San Jose, which is larger than SF, will still say they are going to "the city" for a concert when they mean SF.

Sometimes our identifiers are fucked with, like when Santa Clara become Silicon Valley. To us who grew up here it will always be Santa Clara.
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Mayberry Machiavelli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-05 10:09 PM
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49. No, it's the Capitalized 'The City' that is objectionable to me.
Anyone who grew up or lived near ANY major city would understand "going into the city" as heading into town wherever you are. S.F. is the only place where I've seen that capitalized (The City), in writing, as if to say, "what other city is there?"

The newspaper column I was referring to discussed this specific phenomenon, it was some old timey columnist for either the Chronicle or the Examiner, can't remember which. Can't remember if he thought it was a good or bad thing.

To me, the fact that S.F. IS in fact so much better than just about every other city makes what I see as arrogance about it that much more unseemly, just my take on it... just accept your greatness with grace but don't rub everyone else's face in it already...
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MaryBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 02:09 PM
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73. SF as "The City" comes from outer areas.
My parents, and grandparents (who were married in The City in 1900), lived elsewhere and always called SF "The City," as do I. For too many years that is exactly what it was in northern and central california -- the City. Even in Oakland, SF was "the City."

The SF media picked it up at some time - prob Herb Caen - and ran with it for PR.

-MB
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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-05 08:20 PM
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45. Oddly we don't use it where I'm from
Edited on Sat Sep-24-05 08:21 PM by HEyHEY
People just say, "I gotta go into Vancouver"
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Hell Hath No Fury Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-05 09:53 PM
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46. Journey gives us the answer...
"When the lights
go down
in The City..."

"The City" ain't nothin' but San Francisco. :)
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RoyGBiv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-05 10:05 PM
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48. Oklahoma City ...

Even people who live here call it that, partly because it and Tulsa are the only ones in the entire state. :-)

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fishwax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-05 10:30 PM
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54. Yeah, me too
even though I've recently moved, when I think of "the city" I think (of all things) of OKC :)
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Z_I_Peevey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-05 10:39 PM
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55. Me also.
Although sometimes Bokchito comes to mind.
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hickman1937 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-05 10:12 PM
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50. New York. No body ever references Detroit. n/t
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fudge stripe cookays Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-05 10:19 PM
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51. Dallas.
We live right outside of it. Hopefully not much longer!

FSC
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LeftyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-05 10:51 PM
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56. San Francisco nt
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Kazak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-05 11:01 PM
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57. OKC
But, I grew up in Norman. To this day, I live in Norman, and work in "the city".
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GRLMGC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-05 11:41 PM
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58. San Francisco
Just because I remembered reading somewhere that San Franciscans hated the term "Frisco" and preferred "the city". I sorta thought it was presumptuous but what the hell? It's a pretty cool city.
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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 12:15 AM
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59. I grew up in the Bay Area -- "The City" means S.F. to me, too.
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Kathleen04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 12:57 AM
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60. NYC
In fact, we went to the city today on a whim, it was fun! :)
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KitchenWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 12:58 AM
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61. Minneapolis
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Fox Mulder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 12:59 AM
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62. Here in Minnesota, we say "The Cities"
referring to Minneapolis and St. Paul.
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Vektor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 01:09 AM
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63. Also San Francisco for me.
Love it.
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Robeson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 01:11 AM
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64. Nashville.
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fujiyama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 04:43 AM
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65. NYC
Gotta say NY is the city and always will be.

Even though I live only a half hour away from Detroit...and about 4 hours from Chicago.
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tyedyeto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 09:46 AM
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66. San Francisco! Is there any other "The City"?
"The City by the baaay"
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 10:09 AM
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67. San Francisco
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malachibk Donating Member (780 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 12:09 PM
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69. NYC is The City. End of story.
n/t
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anarch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 12:12 PM
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70. manhattan
Which is odd, since I live in DC.

It always amuses me when people make a big deal about "coming into the city" and they're talking about DC. And it's even funnier when people come here from other towns, and look across the river at Rosslyn (which has the only relatively tall buildings around) from the Mall or wherever, and say "is that downtown over there?" No, dude, that's Virginia. You're standing in "downtown".
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La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 12:29 PM
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71. manhattan
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catbert836 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 02:21 PM
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74. New York, what else?
Although having a family entirely from that region might have helped a little. I used to think that everyone knew "the City" as New York.
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Groggy Donating Member (317 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 08:46 PM
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77. Nobody says that here...
I guess we don't have very big cities here....people just say the place they are going to.
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Zuni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 09:07 PM
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78. Annapolis, Baltimore or DC
the three cities that most dominate my life.

I live in the city of Annapolis, Baltimore is the big city I visit most by far, and DC dominates the region
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Ladyhawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 09:17 PM
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79. Modesto...LOL!
:rofl:
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MaryBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 09:43 PM
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83. Oh, yah. Right, Ladyhawk. LOL.
:rofl:

I did meet some very nice folks
at the march in The City, though,
who were from Modesto.

No offense meant to them!
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Ladyhawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 09:47 PM
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84. But I'm serious. :) Modesto is the largest city near me and it's an hour
away. :D
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MaryBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-26-05 10:48 AM
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86. Wow
Are you up near Yosemite or down in the valley?
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northzax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 09:17 PM
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80. "The City" is New York
second the above comment that "town" is Boston. The only other one I use is "the District".
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Selatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 09:22 PM
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82. Did anyone ever watch the show The Tick?
In it, the name of the city was..."The City." I'm talking about the animated version, not the FOX live action version.
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NYC Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 09:48 PM
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85. Manhattan is "The City"
Edited on Sun Sep-25-05 09:49 PM by NYC Liberal
for me! :)
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