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Tue Sep-27-05 03:00 PM
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How many DUers have diagnosed A.D.D? |
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I am just curious. I am 27 and take ritalin. I feel like I found jesus
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Tue Sep-27-05 03:01 PM
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Tue Sep-27-05 03:07 PM
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2. my hubby and sons.....n/t |
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Tue Sep-27-05 03:08 PM
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My son, too, he's 17.
Watch out, I've had people argue with me that
1. ADHD doesn't exist,
2. I shouldn't drug myself or especially my kid.
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Tue Sep-27-05 03:11 PM
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7. You'll hear that right here on DU, too |
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I have one child with diagnosed ADHD and one as yet officially undiagnosed, but I suspect she has it too, since she exhibits many of the same symtoms.
Another classic is "That's just normal childhood behavior. They'll grow out of it." Right. Tell that to my brother.
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Tue Sep-27-05 03:20 PM
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14. I love the add doesn't exist |
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line. http://amenclinics.com/bp/atlas/ch12.phpShow them the above brain scans and then ask if they believe ADD does not exist
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Tue Sep-27-05 03:28 PM
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I know about Amen. There's one big problem! He does not use |
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control groups! A lot of his research is suspect.
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thefloyd
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Tue Sep-27-05 03:29 PM
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about the research just how the actual scans are different
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Tue Sep-27-05 03:34 PM
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23. I've heard him speak twice and have known some people to get |
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scanned at his place. It's really interesting that they only have one type of normal brain. Hmmm.
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Tue Sep-27-05 03:40 PM
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24. Oh cmon. He is simply illustrating a point |
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What do you want him to post every scan of a normal brain he has taken? What about scans of drug addicts? Should I not believe those?
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Tue Sep-27-05 03:50 PM
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26. I didn't say that. I know about the scans of a drug addict, etc. But, |
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Edited on Tue Sep-27-05 03:54 PM by Crazy Guggenheim
the problem is no one to this day knows what the normal brain is.
Please listen to this point. I think they confusing normal with an average. Did Einstein have an "average" brain?
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Tue Sep-27-05 03:58 PM
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I agree Amen is confusing Normal and average. No Einstein did not have a normal brain. Actually many people believed he had ADD!!
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Tue Sep-27-05 03:59 PM
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29. Don't forget dyslexia ......... |
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Tue Sep-27-05 11:02 PM
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45. Thanks a lot for the link! |
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Dr. Amen's neurological sub-typing of ADD is very helpul. ADD is really to broad and vague a label, and not all types benefit over the long run from stimulant medications. On the job, one will often find that some underlying disability is still there.
In the system of subtypes he gives, I have severe limbic ADD symptoms, with some milder temporal lobe ADD symptoms. I've also had some seizures, which makes treatment more difficult--some ADD medications can trigger seizures. I couldn't legally drive a car if I was on one of those now!
Dr. Amen is clearly a brilliant neuro-psychologist, and the individual time-series case study methadology he uses is perfectly appropriate to the work he does.
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Tue Sep-27-05 03:28 PM
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Drugging your kid line. Those people do not understand how bad a persons confidence, self esteem can be lowered with out the appropiate diagnosis and treatment
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Tue Sep-27-05 03:29 PM
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20. My answers to those dumb arguments: |
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1. ADHD doesn't exist,
"And you're qualified to make that statement based on exactly what credentials?"
2. I shouldn't drug myself or especially my kid.
"Oh, so if you had diabetes, you wouldn't take insulin? And you wouldn't let your kid take it?"
These work for me every time. Use them.
Redstone
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Tue Sep-27-05 04:52 PM
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38. LOL, that's pretty close to what I do say myself |
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What were we talking about again? :hi:
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Tue Sep-27-05 05:31 PM
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39. It was something about, I think, AHDH. Isn't that some sports league? |
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Edited on Tue Sep-27-05 05:32 PM by Redstone
Redstone
Or whoever. I forget. There was someone around like him just a minute ago, can't think of where he could have gotten to...
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Tue Sep-27-05 03:09 PM
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4. I would hope only the doctors and/or psychiatrists of DU. |
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Though I'm not sure if a psychiatrist can make that diagnosis without a doctor. I'm rather unclear on that.
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Tue Sep-27-05 03:11 PM
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I think they can make the diagnosis, and so can a family practitioner who has some idea of what to look for. But ADHD is generally considered neurologic or perhaps neuropsychiatric in nature.
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Tue Sep-27-05 03:10 PM
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5. I do, diagnosed at 32. |
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I recently switched from Ritalin to Focalin.
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Tue Sep-27-05 03:12 PM
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9. What do you think of Focalin? nt |
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Focalin seems cleaner and smoother than ritalin... if that makes sense. It's basically a non-racemic form of Ritalin.
I really liked Strattera the most, but the side effects are not so great for guys.
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Tue Sep-27-05 03:25 PM
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16. The first doctor my daughter saw though she should try... |
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Focalin, but believe it or not, we couldn't find it locally. We live in a city of about 200,000 but no pharmacy carried Focalin. :eyes:
We ended up trying generic Ritalin, Concerta, and then Strattera. She is currently unmedicated due to growth issues.
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Tue Sep-27-05 03:11 PM
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I used to take a pill similiar to ritalin but I was ordered to go off it. When I did, my attention span just went completely almost non-existant.
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Tue Sep-27-05 03:13 PM
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10. I was, about 13 years ago, and the medicine has been |
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pretty good, though it doesn't...Hey, there's a Monarch butterfly outside my office window! I'm gonna go take pictures of it!
Redstone
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Tue Sep-27-05 03:15 PM
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Tue Sep-27-05 03:22 PM
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15. You are such a funny guy, my dear Redstone..... |
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No wonder you've done so many things in your life.....
You can blame it all on ADD! Or you can thank it, whatever you want.....
:yourock:
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Tue Sep-27-05 03:18 PM
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But ritalin hasn't helped very much over the long term. It's effects kick in quick and it does help some ADD school kids to turn their academic lives around. Over the longer run of things, it does little to solve the issues that people with life-long ADD have at work, in personal relationships and so on.
Biofeedback can be very effective treatment, if you find one of the few biofeedback providers who really know how to treat ADD. The therapy is a bit more tricky than using biofeedback to treat anxiety, and it takes more effort from the patient than just taking ritalin for ADD. I think it's more effective for the whole person over the long run.
Good Luck!!! :grouphug:
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Tue Sep-27-05 03:26 PM
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I coasted through elementry and junior high and part of highschool simply because the content was so easy the ADD was not visible. However once I got to college things changed and my grades suffered. I started taking meds and my grades went from 3.0 to 3.5 with half the work. However what I was taking made to extremely tired. I got a job and all hell broke loose. I was fired simply because I was not productive enough. Of course I have been told by a few employers my ideas are brilliant but I make to many mistakes with day to day tasks. I started Ritalin and things have really changed.
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Tue Sep-27-05 03:26 PM
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18. C.G.'s here. Nah I've gotta go ............ |
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Tue Sep-27-05 03:30 PM
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I was diagnosed at ~13, and now I'm 23, and still have ADHD. I take Strattera for it but it doesn't work very well.
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Tue Sep-27-05 03:44 PM
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25. I took Strattera for a while and went back to Concerta. |
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Tue Sep-27-05 03:58 PM
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27. I took Stradivarius for a while and went back to Concertina. |
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So we have something in common.
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Tue Sep-27-05 04:02 PM
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Tue Sep-27-05 04:05 PM
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31. Anybody use DMAE or anything besides Rx drugs? |
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Tue Sep-27-05 04:42 PM
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36. DMAE is a cheap dietary supplement long used for ADD |
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Tue Sep-27-05 04:49 PM
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37. I'll take a look at it. |
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Tue Sep-27-05 04:14 PM
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33. I'm 47 and was just diagnosed last year.... |
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Can't take medication because of high blood pressure though....even Straterra..
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Tue Sep-27-05 04:24 PM
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35. me about 10 years ago |
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I took Welbutrin and it nearly killed me. I prefer to lose track of shit after that.
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Tue Sep-27-05 06:04 PM
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I took Adderall for 2 years. But the drug I had to take with it caused me to gain weight and develop diabetes.
I'd rather be taking it now if I could.
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Tue Sep-27-05 06:20 PM
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44. I've tried virtually all of them over the last 20 years. |
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The anti-convulsants, that is. But I know I'll keep trying more as new ones come out.
I'm thinking maybe even GABA, which you can buy over the counter and has no side effects. But it might not be strong enough. Doesn't seem to have a lot of effect on me. I haven't tried it with Adderall yet which is the only way to know for sure.
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Tue Sep-27-05 06:07 PM
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No drugs.I just have to super-organize my life. I do pretty well, considering I'm married to another one and he dosen't medicate either. Lists EVERYWHERE!Post-its are my friend.
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Tue Sep-27-05 06:08 PM
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43. Moi... but it doesn't feel like the proper diagnosis... |
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I think I'm actually an anxious person, not an ADHD person.
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