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cssmall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 11:44 PM
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Vampire Myth thread.
Okay, due to the examination of Graf Orlok's name ( ;) ), I decided to do this. What Vampiric myth do you like the most?

Nosferatu? The creepy, skulking figure moving through the darkness and robbing loved ones of their victims.

Ann Rice? The vampire as a sexual creature, lusting for blood as a symbol for its lost humanity.

White Wolf? Thirteen different clans with an Ann Rice feel, but with each clan playing its own role and difference in the curse of Caine. Nosferatu are actually becoming my favorite from his genre, because they are so deformed and show the beast on the outside, they hold hard on to their humanity.

Bram Stoker's? Dracula. Need I say more?
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ghostsofgiants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 11:46 PM
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1. Nosferatu is great
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Zuni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 11:46 PM
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2. Nosferatu is the creepiest of the film vampires by far
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Beware the Beast Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 11:47 PM
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3. Angel.
Vampire cursed with a soul, who cannot consummate his love with anyone for it turns hims back to evil.
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cssmall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 11:50 PM
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4. Mmm... my wife likes Angel,
but I find it to be primarily drivel, except to see the changes within that character itself. I find that I see vampiric critters to be less social, but that is a quite interesting twist on that specific myth.

In fact, the opening of the Iced Earth song Dracula is:

Do you believe in love?
Do you believe in destiny?
True love may occur,
but will it last a thousand lifetimes?

I too have loved,
they took her from me.
I pray for her soul,
I pray for her peace.
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DanCa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-05 04:01 PM
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20. I am down with Angellus and am I the only one who got the ending?
Fighting against all odds?
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Beware the Beast Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 11:56 PM
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7. I just put that because no one else did.
In all due respect,I find the whole vampire genre to be a bit wanky in the first place, but Buffy is a guilty pleasure for me, and it's tongue-in-cheek.
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cssmall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 11:59 PM
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8. Well, it is a supersition.
One that has been used, culturally, to warn women about "loose living" and men about the "dangers" of homosexuality. At least, that's what the early myths are about. Of course, I hear my wife's voice in my head telling to shut the hell up and stop over analyzing everything. :hide:
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khashka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 11:51 PM
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5. Sonya Blue
Sunglasses After Dark, Black Roses For A Blue Lady......

Hot vampire girls who kick ass and wear leather jackets and carry knives.... Nancy Collins knows the way to this man's heart!

Poppy Z. Brite's Lost Souls.... vampirism, homosexuality, murder, drugs, incest..... and I'm totally in love with Christian.

Khash.
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cssmall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 11:53 PM
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6. I couldn't get in to Collins. Just something about her writing style.
Sonya Blue is interesting though, but Collins just turned me off. Never looked at Brite's though.
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khashka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-05 12:08 AM
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9. Collins is a good writer put her style can be a little offputting
Try some of her Wild West Vampire stuff....

Hell Come Sundown is great! And It flows a lot better than a lot of her stuff...

As for Ms, Brite, if you haven't read her, you are seriously deprived. Lost Souls, Drawing Blood, Swamp Fetus, Exquisite Corpse.... ah, magic. She writes beautifully, lyrically beautiful, poetry in prose.... but I did throw Exquisite Corpse across the room. How dare she make something so ugly seem so beautiful! And yet it may be one of the best things she's ever written.


Khash.

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cssmall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-05 12:10 AM
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10. Well, I typically do well if I view it as research.
:D
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bicentennial_baby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-05 07:47 AM
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16. absolutely agree on Brite
Although, it took me weeks to get through EC, it turned my stomach continually. x(
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-05 12:36 AM
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11. Dracula, with the sexual metaphorical Count preying on young women
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BlueIris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-05 03:11 AM
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12. Bram Stoker, all the way. I was just thinking about those vamps actually.
Edited on Sat Oct-01-05 03:12 AM by BlueIris
I had a horrible nightmare the other night that vampires showed up at my parents' house and ate my mother. I actually called her to tell her, "don't let them in--they can't come in unless you invite them!!!"

Couldn't tell you why I picked Stoker there--he was just the best of the choices listed. I actually wrote a paper about a million years ago about various versions of the vampire in world mythology. There were far more versions of the vampire than I had ever assumed before--including a Latin American myth depicting a vampire which can be pregnant, and a Celtic succubous-style vampire that sucks out the soul of the victims by, well, urm...the last means an unsuspecting Roman might imagine.
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Graf Orlok Donating Member (441 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-05 04:05 AM
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13. Which vampire myth do I like?
Edited on Sat Oct-01-05 04:22 AM by Graf Orlok
Why don't you take a wild guess.

:) ;)

I like Nosferatu because Orlok is creepy and mysterious. He's a vampire that you can be frightened of. How can you NOT be scared of this:



???

On edit: I also really enjoy Anne Rice's vampires.
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baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-05 07:42 AM
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14. Rumsferatu
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billyskank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-05 07:44 AM
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15. Eeeeeeeeeeek!!!!!
:hide:
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aint_no_life_nowhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-02-05 04:10 PM
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31. And what about "The Queen Of The Damned"???
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BreweryYardRat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-05 08:08 AM
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17. E-Other.
The group I came up with for a fantasy novel I'm working on. Filled with battle-lust, no qualms or angsting about drinking blood, and even fewer qualms about keeping slaves so they don't have to constantly go out and hunt.
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Graf Orlok Donating Member (441 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-05 02:39 PM
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18. .
:kick:
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yellowdogintexas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-05 03:59 PM
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19. Love Anne Rice's whole mythology, however I have found
another one that is equally fascinating and totally different:

Brian Lumley...Necromancer and its sequels.

These books rock!!!

There is another one I read that I really enjoyed but can't remember the name of the author or the book, but it had the vampires as a companion race..The Last Vampire may have been the name of the one that I read.


Interestingly, my daughter and her best friend are working on a vampire fantasy novel which they claim has a different origin theory.

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DerekG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-05 04:57 PM
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21. Stoker--His Dracula was infused with a majestic evil
None of this Louis/Lestat-as-Hamlet doggerel. Stoker's Dracula still stands as one of the most formidable tyros in world literature: a cross between Milton's Satan and Dickens's Marquis. His turn-ons included: throwing wailing babies to his brides (and watching feral beasts devour its bereaved mother); hatching an insidious plot to take over Europe; slaughtering a whole bloody crew of shipmates; and initiating a de facto rape of Mina.

This guy didn't feel torment...he just dished it out.
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cssmall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-02-05 09:01 AM
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22. But, that's just villany for villany's sake!
True evil is the type that tells you it's good and then does wrong. :D

Ahem. I'm not insulting your point of view, just wanted to make a joke.
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La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-02-05 09:41 AM
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23. buffy the vampire slayer vampires
esp spike
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anarch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-02-05 09:47 AM
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24. what? no Blade?
Actually, IMHO the best vampire movie is Near Dark, although The Hunger is also pretty great.

Sooo many vampires...why are they so popular?
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cssmall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-02-05 10:17 AM
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25. The blood drinking stuff.
It's all part of the cannibal taboo, which exactly is the point. Immoral man takes young, vestial woman, who *gasp* went against her father's advice and went out at night, and turns her into a demon. That demon then goes around and messes up men. :eyes: It renforces cultural values.
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MiniMandaRuth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-02-05 01:26 PM
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26. My own Vampires.
Edited on Sun Oct-02-05 01:31 PM by MiniMandaRuth
First vampires: Iodin and his sister, Idana, half-demons. Iodin, wanting to become a full demon, Idana, wishing to become human.

Iodin, wandering the world, looking for his sister, and making minions in the meantime.

Idana, starting the Unwilling, Vampires fighting for the survival of witless humans who ignore the world around them.

Yeah. I like my vampires.

On edit:

I forgot Darren Shawns Vampires. Sooooo cool. Good against bad Vampires. The good vampires are just like us, save for that they have to drink a small amount of blood every once in a while to live.

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sakabatou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-02-05 01:40 PM
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27. Alucard
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MiniMandaRuth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-02-05 03:09 PM
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28. AMEN.
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LeftyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-02-05 03:25 PM
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29. Definitely the White Wolf/WOD vampires
I like that there's a great deal of complexity involved in inter-clan politics and interations with other supernaturals, rather than vampires being some monolithic bloc all working toward a common goal, which seems unrealistic.
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Blue Donkey Donating Member (2 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-02-05 03:59 PM
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30. Ann Rice's vampires.
Because, which, also gave rise to the WoD vampires from Vampire: The Masquerade.
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