OK. Is Gravity a force or a distortion of space

[Zuni]

Newtonian laws describe gravity as a force that matter generates that pulls other matter towards it.
Einstein and later theorists posit that gravity is not a force, but a distortion of space created by matter. In 2 dimensions, matter would make "holes" along the flat plain of space. A Black hole is caused by such a dense concentration of matter that it becomes very steep and deep and light cannot get out of it.

[billyskank]

1. Gravity is a myth. The earth just sucks.

:P

[OneGrassRoot]

2. Okay, so I'm gonna use that..........

Whenever anyone notices gravity-related issues on my body....:eyes: .....I'm gonna say it's really just a distortion of space.

[Richardo]

3. I need a vote for "There's a fire outside my window and I'm too distracted

...to think about the nature of gravity right now."

[progmom]

4. really?

:wow:

[billyskank]

9. ...

:hug:


















(Sorry, there was no reason for that whatsoever).

[progmom]

26. and how did you know that i needed that?

:hug:

[billyskank]

33. so there was a reason!

it's just that nobody informed me! :crazy:

[Richardo]

29. 'Bout a mile away - two-alarmer at a restaurant

Great view from my 22d floor cube...could see the flames and everything. :scared:

[Zuni]

5. done

[Richardo]

30. .

:yourock:

[Crazy Guggenheim]

6. Are you a Trekie? BTW, I voted for both.

[Zuni]

8. no. not into sci-fi at all

[IChing]

7. The same question of light, is it a particle or a wave?

I voted both.

[Zuni]

10. it is both

and it depends on when and how you observe it

[IChing]

28. But then again, by the very act of watching, the observer affects the

observation.

In a study reported in the February 26 issue of Nature (Vol. 391, pp. 871-874), researchers at the Weizmann Institute of Science
have now conducted a highly controlled experiment demonstrating how a beam of electrons is affected by the act of being observed.
The experiment revealed that the greater the amount of "watching," the greater the observer's influence on what actually takes place.

this also occurs in the DU forums very often
:nuke: :rofl: :rofl:

[Crazy Guggenheim]

34. That's been known since the 70's at least.

[IChing]

38. Yes, that's why I said it, But not scientifically demonstrated until 1998

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/1998/02/980227055013.htm



the scientific observation of your reality,
occurred much earlier
and it effected the whole experiment
Damn, and now we have the Bushenfurher.
that the last time we will let the "French" do anything again

:sarcasm: :hi: :hi:

[Crazy Guggenheim]

39. Bullshit! It was demonstrated earlier. I think ....

:popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn:

[A-Schwarzenegger]

11. Gravity atoms will soon be discovered to prove my theory.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=105x4089226

Why do you think astronauts do NOT float sitting at their desks in Houston but they FLOAT in outer space. Whst has been transmuted from the powerful gravitational atomic state to a helpless invisible blob by the speed of the take-off? None of the old theories hold water.

[Magrittes Pipe]

12. You think this shot calls for a 9-iron or a pitching wedge?

:shrug:

[Crazy Guggenheim]

14. Pitching wedge. But hit it hard.

[Zuni]

19. I will not be your caddy until you stop touching me inappropriately

:grr:

[Magrittes Pipe]

21. What's the point of having a caddy...

...if I can't touch him inappropriately? I fucking hate golf, so it certainly isn't for the sport.

[CBGLuthier]

13. none of the above

Gravity is something that leaks from other dimensions and is a whole lot wierder, like the entire universe, than anything we can currently understand.

That is my very weak understanding of some of the latest theories anyway.

Newtonian laws are adequate for most work, Einsteinian theories help with some of the minor discrepancies and may be close to what is really happening and the "new" multi dimensional membrane theories may or may not be the answer but they are cool as hell to contemplate.

[dolo amber]

15. I like pie

:9

[Magrittes Pipe]

16. What flavor?

I'm partial to ginger.

[Zuni]

17. apple pie with frosting beats the hell out of gravity

:9

[Magrittes Pipe]

22. I'll frost it myself!

:bounce:

[Zuni]

24. your frosting is so degrading and cruel

[Magrittes Pipe]

25. And delicious!

[Pithlet]

18. Gravity is intelligent

of course.

[anarch]

20. All statements are true in some sense, false in some sense,

meaningless in some sense, true and false in some sense, true and meaningless in some sense, false and meaningless in some sense, and true and false and meaningless in some sense.

...

Also, I at one point tried to get to the bottom of this by asking a question in the Science Forum, but left without satisfaction.

I voted for "both".

[meganmonkey]

23. Club sandwich. No question.

I had a salad for lunch, it's almost 5, what can I say? :shrug:

[DrGonzoLives]

27. Gravity is just another component of the CONSPIRACY

to silence the TRUTH, that is, the TIME CUBE.

[Zuni]

31. hahahahahahaha

I frequent www.crank.net, and there are all kinds of time cube websites on there, along with virtually every other whacko website you can think of

[Fox Mulder]

41. Hey! Finally! Someone knows the truth.

:)

[El Fuego]

32. Like evolution, gravity is just a theory

The bible is full of stories of people things rising up to heaven which proves that gravity doesn't exist. Students should be taught non-gravityism in science class so they can decide for themselves whether gravity exists.

[A-Schwarzenegger]

36. One theory is good as another. E.G.: GRAVITY ATOMS.

Gravity atoms cling to people and things. Both things and
people have moods. Why do you think Napoleon was small?
Why do you think some big people can dance effortlessly
as if they are full of nitrogen? Mood affects gravity. Bad
mood attracts gravity atoms. Good mood repels gravity atoms.

[dave29]

35. I have weighed your question

and felt drawn to none of your proposed solutions. It's as if some sort of dark energy is pulling me away from understanding gravity at a rate that increases with time... until gravity in and of itself becomes a nonsensical concept I can't even imagine

[wildhorses]

37. Gravity is a situatuion and a person as in

1. You don't understand the gravity of the situation.
2. Look what mean Mr. Gravity did.
BTW...I voted for both

[redqueen]

40. Both

Effect on the macro level, force on the quantum level (graviton?).

[Zuni]

42. whoa

that was intense :crazy:

[NNadir]

43. With the exception of mock gravity (neocon gravity) the view of gravity

depends on the precision with which you need to examine it.

If you're dropping balls in Physics 101 lab, it's a force.

If you're planning a mission to the planet Mercury, it's a deformation of spacetime.

[TrogL]

44. Gravity is an information exchange