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SmileyBoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-05 10:49 PM
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I need some life-changing advice from an unbiased source.
Edited on Tue Oct-04-05 11:00 PM by SmileyBoy
There's something going on in my life, and I don't know what to do about it. I was wondering if anyone could give me some advice. It's a really long story, so if you don't want to respond, you don't have to.

Here's the story: I'm 3rd-year student manager for a college football team. When I started out, I was earning work-study money ($1,300), and working at practices, though I did not work at games, I wasn't involved in training camp, and I wasn't in the team program. Starting at this time an throughout this past spring (2 years), my boss, the team equipment manager (who is a university employee, not a student) was a guy who really took a liking to me, and respected me, and I liked him a lot, and who told me when I was doing a good job. My personal expectations for what I wanted my role to be on the team were largely fulfilled that year.

In the second year (2004-05), my old boss was obviously still there, and I finally got the chance to work at home games, but I still wasn't on the travelling roster (which was what I hoped for that year). It was a lot of fun, and the game-day experience for me as a worker was a lot more fun than just being a fan in the stands. But at this time, I was no longer qualified to get PAID for the job through work-study. It turned out that my family's income was (and still is) too high for me to qualify for any work-study compensation. Even though I was mad that I wouldn't get paid, I asked my (former) boss if I could stay on and volunteer. He was OK with it, and for the rest of the year, I worked for nothing. By later that year, my money situation started getting worse. (I live in the dorms, and my parents pay most of everything, BTW.) I needed a source of income for myself to buy my medications, my gasoline, food, clothes, etc. (My parents don't pay for these) I had a job for a little while at Domino's delivering pizzas during the winter, but the reason I quit the job shortly after was because football (the job I was volunteering at) was interfering with my work and class schedule.

As for this year: My old boss leaves for another job. This new guy (He's from Florida, so you can now see what's coming in this story) comes in as my boss, and while things seem to be hit off as pretty formal and business-like off the bat through phone conversations, there was no sense of good vibes between us. The first time I meet him at training camp (this was my first year at that, BTW), I was not initally sure if I was going to like him, or he was going to like me. BTW, this year, I had my picture in the game program and was at training camp for the first time this year, but things start getting worse, as I will tell.

It turns out my new boss starts saying some things to me almost right off the bat which I guess would be his idea of jokes, although they didn't seem very funny to me. This is a guy who never smiles, does NOT work well with others (including players), and is not a guy you would want to have drinks with at the bar. He seems almost mildly anti-social. Very quiet, but not sociable. The complete opposite of me. Although not being truthful, he often jokes about firing me and/or making me do manual hard labour. He never once smiled in my direction, has never told me that I was doing a good job, and has threatened me on a few occasions (although I am not sure if he was joking or not on those occasions). He never wants to initiate a conversation with me unless it's about something he thought I did wrong, or something he just wants me to do. He talks about music, movies and sports with all the other managers except me. It's like he 1) Doesn't think I'm that of an important person on the team or on his staff, and 2) He thinks I just fell off the turnip truck, thinks this is my first year on the team and my first year in college (the truth is that this is my 3rd year on the team and my 5th year in college).

One other example of his behaviour was: I was in the equipment room today while he was talking with another student manager about a song he hated, he was talking about when it first came out in 1998 when he was a freshman in college. I was amazed that he was only 4 years older than me (27-28), because he looks a lot older than that. I said, "Hey, I was a sophomore in high school in 1998! I didn't know you were that young..." And he said, "So what? I'm still your boss." with a big frown on his face. I thought that was a very rude, boorish remark for a person to make towards someone who is working under them.

As for the game-day experience, this year he had me relegated to wearing a conference T-shirt (the football conference we're in) and pulling nets up and down during the games with THREE OTHER KIDS WHO ARE BETWEEN THE AGES OF 8 AND 11 (I'm 23, if you were able to tell), instead of me doing the job I had last year, taking defensive tendency stats on the field for the defensive coordinator while wearing a normal game polo like all the other coaches and managers.

Now this is where other factors come into play. For the past three years, I have been waiting to get on the travelling roster for the team. I didn't get in this year either. There is one student manager that I know of who I have been on the team for one year more than him, and he has a scholarship and is on the travelling roster, and I'm don't have either. All the other managers have scholarships, except for me and this one other guy, who's in his first year on the team and has work-study.

Here's what happens next: The one guy who gets work study was talking with my (new) boss last week about his payment, and at the end, my boss says to him, "...and we'll see what we have for you next year as far as scholarships are concerned." He brought up the FUCKING ISSUE of scholarships with some NEW guy, when I've been trying to bring it up with my bosses ever since last year with my OLD boss. (For the record, only scholarship managers can be on the travelling roster, a fact that I was just introduced to recently.)

So then today, he says something about me being able to go on a road trip with the team if something happens later on, right?? And I say that "I'm getting a scholarship next year anyway, right??", and he says, "Who said anything about you getting a scholarship??", and I said "Well, it'll be my 4th year on the team, and I'm staying at NDSU anyway, I'm not going anywhere." But at that point, feeling embarrassed for bringing it up, I just immediately say never mind, and I'll bring it up in the spring. Think about it: He wants to bring up the issue of scholarships with some FIRST YEAR GUY and doesn't want to bring up the issue with ME, who has been there for three seasons, and has been busting his ass working on the team for FREE for the past two. This pissed me off something fierce, and was the reason I'm mulling over quitting this job.

I now realize that I actually NEED a scholarship (rather than just looking for one as an excuse to travel), because my parents are running out of money to pay for my college, and I already have three outstanding student loans. Not only that, but because of legislation by the sonofabitch Republicans, the state workforce development center that used to pay for HALF my tuition, books and room are now only obligated to pay for $150.00 per semester for my expenses. Now the load is on my parents, and what used to be me asking for a chance to travel is now my asking for a chance to help my parents, because of what I said earlier, that only scholarship managers can travel.

So I decided to measure the pros and cons of the situation:

PROS:

1) All the players really like me, and they are basically my only circle of friends. This kind of thing is really important for a guy like me with Aspberger's Syndrome who finds difficulty in establishing relationships with new people. The players and coaches all treat me well.

2) I absolutely LOVE this job. I get a great sense of pride in doing it. I look forward to going to practice every day after classes.

CONS:

1) The Boss: He obviously doesn't think highly of me, thinks I'm there as kind of a side show, and not as an integral part of the group, and seems to now be favouring other managers all equally over me alone.

2) No money: I have about 80 dollars in the bank and 4 dollars in my wallet. I need to fill my tank, I have about 40 dollars worth of prescriptions I have yet to buy, and I need to buy a couple new pairs of pants, because all my other pairs are worn out. I need money, because I have essentials I need to buy.

3) I have no future in football. I do this, because I love football so much that I want to be a part of the game as much as I can. I have been in organized football since the 5th grade. I was an assistant coach for my old high school team the year before I went to university. I LOVE the game. But I'm planning on graduating as a prospective architect, and there are no places for architects on football teams.

So there you have it. It's a long story, but I need to know what to do. I was going to ask my best friend, but he is a biased source, since he's another manager, and obviously wants me to stay on the team.

What do you think I should do??
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SlavesandBulldozers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-05 10:58 PM
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1. a word of advice
Edited on Tue Oct-04-05 10:58 PM by SlavesandBulldozers
you may want to edit out where exactly it is you work because certain assholes love to ruin people's lives.

i'll check the rest of what you wrote now.
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Kenneth ken Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-05 11:04 PM
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2. long story
and I don't know all the hierarchy involved, but I will say try to get an appointment with either the head coach or the school's athletic director. Lay it out for them and see if they can help you get a scholarship.

Alternatively, try to get some time alone with your current boss and see what it is he doesn't seem to like about you.

Worst-case scenario, you may have to give up football and focus on filling that time with a paying job.

Best wishes to you :hi:

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WannaJumpMyScooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-05 11:08 PM
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3. For sure, lose the college name forthwith
man, they will jam you up if they can.
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SmileyBoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-05 11:29 PM
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5. Done.
Maybe I'll redo my sig line too.
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WannaJumpMyScooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-05 11:42 PM
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6. Yeah, at least temporarily
As for your situation. I fear you are fucked. Unfortunately, that is how these things go with middle and upper mangement changes. It is a lesson. Take it and run, network with the jocks and find one who feels your pain and has a relative with a paying job for you.
Hold your head high, and be proud of what sounds like great work you did. Keep in touch with the guys, they may be able to help you out if any of them go pro.
Good luck dude.
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SmileyBoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 01:33 AM
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9. The problem is that I don't know if I'll be able to make more friends.
Like I said, I have trouble establishing friendships/relationships with people on my own.
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WannaJumpMyScooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 09:40 AM
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10. You did it once. You CAN do it again
Anything that can be done once can be done again.
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SlavesandBulldozers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-05 11:11 PM
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4. you should quit
I've been thru several experiences similar to yours. I'm not much older than you,I'm about the age of your current boss. The guy sounds like a real piece of work, and doesn't appreciate you now nor will he likely ever.
you need to find something that pays. . . not necessarily something fancy, but something that pays. You can put your experience handling stats and managing to good use on your resume. Do it. If you have friends on the football team they will respect you even more for standing up for yourself. You can even explain to them the rationale behind doing it, surely they have noticed what you have noticed about the new guy.
I noticed that mention several times that this new guy never smiles. That must mean that you like to surround yourself with positive people, this guy's really getting to you and you stand the risk of being brought down as a result of it. . . and brought down with no compensation to show for it even. I mean most people hate their jobs, are surrounded by negative people, but hey - at least they are compensated in some way. I understand that your love of the game is compensation enough for you - but you can still enjoy football in another capacity if it means you are generally happier in the long-run.
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radwriter0555 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-04-05 11:56 PM
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7. I have to agree. It appears that it's time for you to move on. Since
football is a passion and not a lifestyle or job for you, focus your energies on your architecture and studies. Get that part time job you need (something in sales? You're so nice and conscientious, you'd be great in sales, and the money is good... more on that later)

The best part is you can still do the football thing part time too at some point. With your passion and enthusiasm, please, PLEASE work with some KIDS who need a smile like yours! Maybe even some special needs kids, or something, but share that amazing smile and grace, please?

And as far as the work thing goes, if you need money, go to where the money is. If you have an area near you that is upscale and chi-chi, look for a job in the THE most expensive store you can, high dollars make big bucks.

You sound like a really great person, and many good things will come your way. Your path is changing a bit, so go with it. Everything happens the way it's supposed to. You know the answers here, that's very clear.

Best of luck and do good things!!!!

(((Big hugs!!!)))
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Wapsie B Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-05-05 12:06 AM
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8. First priority-get through school.
Whatever avenue allows you to get the $$ for living expenses you've got to take it to get your degree.
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SmileyBoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 12:25 AM
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11. UPDATE:
The bastard (boss) chewed me out TWICE today. I can understand wanting to stay and take that abuse if I'm getting a paycheck. But I'm not, so I set up an appointment with the athletic director (the guy who hired him) and I'm gonna ask him what I should do.
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faithnotgreed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 12:40 AM
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12. i think that is a good idea smileyboy
you have a lot to offer and certainly should discuss this with someone who knows the situation and can give you feedback

i understand that this is a very important thing in your life so i wish you the very best
its crucial in all things to communicate what you need (much easier said than done as we all know)
if you feel this person is the best person to discuss this with then i wish you all the best

do let us know...

side note: i must say for having aspergers you communicate very clearly and completely
my partner has aspergers and i know that can be a real sticking point sometimes
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NuttyFluffers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 02:32 AM
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13. well... survival first, fun second.
but your asperger's syndrome certainly doesn't make the choice any easier. but you have friends, they hopefully won't turn their back on you once you leave. and you can always make new ones, which since you've done it before means you can do it again, as trying as that process may be.

as one of my cousin's put it succinctly: "high ideals and social interests are great, but then you gotta eat."

ps: finish your degree. that's priority #1. live off of top ramen if you have to. that's why all this debt is being racked up in the first place.
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-06-05 05:31 AM
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14. My heart is heavy for you.
because it sounds like a difficult choice to make -- a situation that you love being in and friends that you are comfortable with.

But I think you already know the answer in your heart -- I think that's WHY you're asking us.

Talk to the athletic director. But seriously think about whether or not you can find something that will earn you a little $$ that is related to your field you plan to be in. Since you have an idea about the way you want to go with your future, it sounds like it's time to start focusing your energies there.

And even though you'll be in a new situation and making new friends, you'll still be able to spend time with some of your old friends. You still love football right? So you'll be at games, etc.

Good luck to you.... it is always difficult to make a change.
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