When did Bush say he was in Viet Nam?

[Hieronymus]

Apparently he made the statement in a speech and nobody called him on it.
Remember how the press attacked Gore for gaffs or things he didn't even say? Not to mention President Clinton.:dunce:
:argh:

[HEyHEY]

1. got the speach?

I'd love to read this!

[Wonk]

3. mp3 here

Got this from Malloy. I'm not sure off the top of my head when the actual speech was.

45 k mp3

[HEyHEY]

6. ohmfg

I can't believe he said that

[WannaJumpMyScooter]

15. That is a campaign speech, think... I remember it was a flap

then, but a little one, because it was a one-time thing... I am pretty sure this was from his veteran's group stump speech, and most of the time he said "from VietNam" which, of course, he is entitled to say, as well as any American who lived then.

BOTOH, what the hell is he doing in Iraq, then? Seems like he forgot his "important lesson from/in VietNam" huh?

[chrisesq]

2. I actually read it a month or so ago, wish I could remember where.

saw the actual quote.

[rasputin1952]

4. I recall that as well...

but there have been so many gaffs, that one just went by me. I had the impression he alluded to service in 'Nam, like Reagan spoke about bombing Germany, but the firestorm I expected just blew out.

I'll keep track in here, and search as well, between all of us, someone should come up with it.

:bounce:

[chrisesq]

7. Wonk was on the ball

Good job.

"Perhaps the most important lesson that I learned in Vietnam..."

What would that lead one to believe? That they were actually there. I'm sure if you played that clip for a repug they would say, well he was just saying that was a lesson he learned about Vietnam, he didn't actually say he was there.

Now if I said "Perhaps the most important lesson I learned in college/prison/medical school/law school/..." What do you think the listener would think. Well, I know what I would think, I would think that that person was actually there.

Wouldn't you?

[nuxvomica]

8. Reagan actually believed he fought in the war

He also believed that he had no legs when they filmed "Kings Row". He had what Fred Barnes said Smirkey has, something called "emotional intelligence" which I think means "stupidity."

[LastLiberal in PalmSprings]

9. Reagan couldn't tell reality from fantasy

Referring to the military during one State of the Union address he said, "as one of our great generals said, 'Where do we find such men?' "

The only problem is: it's a line from the movie "The Bridges at Toko-ri".

[rasputin1952]

10. I wonder if he thought Bonzo...

was one of his kids?

He never left Hollywood during the war years, and was commissioned a Capt in the AAF. He made a lot of training films as well, (just the thought of him exposing himnself to discuss the horrors of syphilis chills my spine):scared:.

Reagan, and bush are both feeling inadequacy at not having had real jobs in the military, and them ordering them into harms way. Reagan at lest had the fortitude to discuss the Beirut disaster, but he was very quiet in getting us out of there.

O8)

[mark0rama]

11. Thought Bonzo was one of his kids?

If you've every spent any time listening to Michael Reagan, you could understand that!

[psychopomp]

21. I think emotional IQ is real

I read the book. I was tested and found to have a higher than average IQ but have found myself acting like an idiot so often I thought I'd better find out why.

Many influential people are not book-smart but have other intelligences.

[nuxvomica]

22. The definition Fred "Beetlebrow" Barnes gave went something like...

The ability to keep an idea in your head despite evidence to the contrary. Barnes may have been playing fast and loose with the concept just so he could say that Bunnypants had some kind of intelligence. If I can, I'll see if I can dig up the video on CSPAN.

Note: this reply is being made to psychopomp while he has 666 posts. :scared:

edit: I found the text here:
http://www.heritage.org/Research/PoliticalPhilosophy/HL789.cfm

[TacticalPeek]

5. Not to forget:

"I've been to war. I've raised twins. If I had a choice, I'd rather go to war." Jan 2002

"I learned some good lessons from Vietnam" Mar 2002



http://www.hereinreality.com/commander.html

:evilgrin:

[rasputin1952]

12. That seems to be the one I recall...

I remember that I flew into a rage, simply because it was an insult to everyone who served nobly, regardless of whether it was peace or war. The idea that that SOB would drag the reputations of real servicemembers through the mud just disgusts me to no end.

O8)

[Hubert Flottz]

19. I agree 100%!

Sickening, the 'girly-man in cheap' has no shame, anything for a vote or a bloodsoaked dollar! We all should have mooned Bush November 11th! And what about old greenteeth Rumbo saying that the draftees never properly served their country?

[WannaJumpMyScooter]

13. Nooooo, he was misquoted, see...

this is the real quote...

"I've been with a whore. My wife raised twins. If I had a choice, I'd rather to a whore."

See, there are some subtle differences there.

[DemoTex]

14. Ironically, I'm working on a short story (fiction) called:

Bu$h in Vietnam. Oh, he won't like it! Rove might have me offed if I ever publish it. It's a nasty indictment of the privileged class and the wage-earners at war.

[lpbk2713]

16. Suggestion for a character in your story.....

..... a pompous windbag that wimps out of doing service because he has pimples on his butt......... art imitating life.

[dbt]

17. KICK!

In the names of everyone who actually served in Viet Nam. I owe you more than I can even think of!

With great love, admiration and thanks from some fool who got to run around free in America (remember her?) due to an accident of the Lottery.

[Hubert Flottz]

18. He probably meant North Viet Nam!

Selling Guns and Shells to the VC, that's how his Grand Dad Presscot did business during WWII! Don't forget that Bush I and Reagan Armed Saddam and Bin Laden both! Don't forget about the Cocaine the Rabid Reagnites imported and distributed in the US either! They don't talk about all the special pardons given out during the Reagan Bush era!

Bush II is scared to deliver the Reagan papers as he should have done by law 3 years ago! Reagan might have gone to jail if Bush I had lost that election! That would have made the Mother of all Reagan Movies if Ronnie had gone to jail, like he should have for dealing with terra-ists, gunrunning including WMDs and distributing of mass quanities of a controled substance!(High Crimes and Misdemeanors)

Trading with the enemy

Snip

WASHINGTON (CBS.MW) -- When individual Americans are accused of helping terrorists, they're thrown in jail and their names are dragged through the mud.

But when major U.S. corporations are caught trading with the enemy, they get just a slap on the wrist from the government.

In the past two weeks, the government has revealed that 57 companies and organizations have been fined for doing business with terrorists, despots and tyrants.

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article3043.htm

The Hitler Project

Bush Property Seized--Trading with the Enemy

snip

By Oct. 26, 1942, U.S. troops were under way for North Africa. On Oct. 28, the government issued orders seizing two Nazi front organizations run by the Bush-Harriman bank: the Holland-American Trading Corporation and the Seamless Steel Equipment Corporation.

U.S. forces landed under fire near Algiers on Nov. 8, 1942; heavy combat raged throughout November. Nazi interests in the Silesian-American Corporation, long managed by Prescott Bush and his father-in-law George Herbert Walker, were seized under the Trading with the Enemy Act on Nov. 17, 1942. In this action, the government announced that it was seizing only the Nazi interests, leaving the Nazis' U.S. partners to carry on the business.

These and other actions taken by the U.S. government in wartime were, tragically, too little and too late. President Bush's family had already played a central role in financing and arming Adolf Hitler for his takeover of Germany; in financing and managing the buildup of Nazi war industries for the conquest of Europe and war against the U.S.A.; and in the development of Nazi genocide theories and racial propaganda, with their well-known results.

The facts presented here must be known, and their implications reflected upon, for a proper understanding of President George Herbert Walker Bush and of the danger to mankind that he represents. The President's family fortune was largely a result of the Hitler project. The powerful Anglo-American family associations, which later boosted him into the Central Intelligence Agency and up to the White House, were his father's partners in the Hitler project. MORE...

http://www.tarpley.net/bush2.htm

The Bush family is SOOOOOOOOOOOO patriotic and all, right?

[rasputin1952]

20. LOL...bush in Hanoi for those months missed ...

from the ANG?

This does not seem too far from possibly being factual...not the first time the bush family had 'interesting' ties.

:kick:

[Hubert Flottz]

23. I wonder what Rumbo thinks about someone who the country....

spends tens of thousands of our tax dollars dollars to teach them to fly those multi-million dollar airplanes and then the coward goes over the hill in a time of war, because he can't pass a piss test? I think the draftees have served America far better than the Faux Commander in Chimp did in the country's hour of need! I still think Rummy should be fired for trashing this country's veteran draftees! * Get Over It My A$$! Bush Owes some badtime bigtime!