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corarose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-03 03:04 PM
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Can you collect SSD if you move to England?
I lost one of my Scholarships because I messed up real bad a month or two ago and my GPA went down because I missed a couple of classes. I can't go back to College until I come up with the funds and I am so depressed.

If I were to move to England can I take my SSD with me. I am thinking of selling part of my Culinary Kit and going back to England.

Do you lose your SSD if you leave the country?
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WannaJumpMyScooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-03 03:07 PM
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1. You will lose it, almost certainly
I cannot imagine they would allow that. But if it were deposited in a US bank...
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Droopy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-03 03:09 PM
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2. That's disabilty payments, right?
I would say your best bet is to call a social worker or whoever is handling your case and ask them.
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-03 03:13 PM
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3. If it is Social Security disability payments, I am pretty
sure you can receive them in England. If you are receiving SSI payments, you will not receive them in England. SSI payments are only paid to those who reside in the United States. If you move out of the United States, your SSI payments will be terminated.
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dmr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-03 03:20 PM
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4. You cannot
the only social security you are allowed to collect in another country are retirement benefits.

http://www.ssa.gov/
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Beaker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-03 03:34 PM
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6. that's not what the horse's mouth said-
http://www.ssa.gov/pubs/10153.html#part2

If You Go Outside The United States
If you are a citizen of the United States, your Social Security payments generally can continue for as long as you are outside the United States and meet all requirements. (The Social Security office has a list of 60 other countries whose citizens also can get Social Security benefits if they leave the United States.) However, you must notify Social Security when you plan to leave the U.S. for 30 days or more so that any letters can be sent to the right address...
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-03 05:19 PM
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8. SSI payments are NOT payable outside the US.
If a person moves outside the US, his/her SSI payments will stop.

Social Security disabililty benefits which are different than SSI are payable outside the US. My recollection is that the benefits are payable in countries where we have diplomatic relations. The ssa.gov site can give you more info.
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dmr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-03 06:11 PM
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9. Disability is NOT payable outside the US, either
Edited on Sat Nov-15-03 06:16 PM by dmr
I am on SSDI, and spoke with my attorney about this not too long ago, just in case I wanted to leave if Bush* were to be re-elected (although I doubt I'd leave, even if I could). Below are the links from the ssa.gov website. Also, we are required to inform the government if we move or leave the country, and there are penalties if we are caught. Not too sure how or if they would find out, unless we're on Asscroft's hot list!

:shrug:

PART 416—SUPPLEMENTAL SECURITY INCOME FOR THE AGED, BLIND, AND DISABLED: Suspension due to absence from the United States.

http://www.ssa.gov/OP_Home/cfr20/416/416-0000.htm
http://www.ssa.gov/OP_Home/cfr20/416/416-0215.htm
http://www.ssa.gov/OP_Home/cfr20/416/416-1327.htm

§416.1327 Suspension due to absence from the United States.
(a) Suspension effective date. A recipient is not eligible for SSI benefits if he is outside the United States for a full calendar month. For purposes of this paragraph—

(1) United States means the 50 States, the District of Columbia, and the Northern Mariana Islands:

(2) Day means a full 24-hour day; and

(3) In determining whether a recipient has been outside the United States for a full calendar month, it must be established whether the recipient is outside the United States for 30 consecutive days or more. If yes, he or she will be treated as remaining outside the United States until he or she has returned to and remained in the United States for a period of 30 consecutive days. When a recipient has been outside the United States, the first period of 30 consecutive days of absence is counted beginning with the day after the day the recipient departs from the United States and ending with the day before the day on which he or she returns to the United States. When a recipient has returned to the United States, the second period of 30 consecutive days starts on the day the individual returned and ends on the 30th day of continuous presence in the United States. Benefits will be suspended effective with the first full calendar month in which a recipient is outside the United States.

(b) Resumption of payments after absence from the United States. If benefits are otherwise payable they will be resumed—

(1) Effective with the day following the 30th day of continuous presence in the United States after the recipient's return if the absence was for 30 consecutive days or more.

(2) Effective with the day the recipient returned to the United States, if the absence from the United States was for a full calendar month, but for less than 30 consecutive days (this can occur only for the calendar month of February).

Example 1: Mike left the United States on March 1 and returned on April 1. Counting March 2 through March 31, he was outside the United States for 30 consecutive days; thus he is also deemed to be outside the United States for 30 additional consecutive days. Therefore, for April 1 through April 30, he is deemed to be outside the United States and not eligible for the calendar month of April. Payments start effective May 1.

Example 2: Mary left the United States on April 15 and returned on July 1. Counting April 16 through June 30, she was actually outside the United States and not eligible for the calendar months of May and June. Since she was absent for more than 30 consecutive days, she is deemed to be outside the United States for 30 additional consecutive days. Therefore, for July 1 through July 30, she is deemed to be outside the United States and not eligible for payment until July 31.

<51 FR 13494, Apr. 21, 1986; 51 FR 17332, May 12, 1986>

EDIT: clarity
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-03 07:09 PM
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11. dmr....my post said that SSI is not payable if a person
leaves the United States.

There is also Social Security disability which is paid based on a person's work record. This benefit can be paid outside the US.

They are 2 different programs that are both administered by the Social Security Administration.

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Beaker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-03 03:31 PM
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5. If you have Direct Deposit into a bank account for your SSD funds-
and if they have ATM's in England(i checked, they do.) why would it matter where you lived, as long as you kept the bank account here?
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-03 03:36 PM
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7. sure, why not?
my English mum in the Chicago burbs receives a pension from England
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sweetheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-15-03 06:27 PM
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10. are you going to continue university?
As certainly any difference is negligible next to the difference in tuition.

Use a US bank account and a british ATM. For a while i kept my finances on both sides of the atlantic and did exactly this... unless you open your big trap and say so, who is to know? Shift your address to a forwarding mail box place and withdraw sterling in the UK.

Contrary to the propaganda, i found british universities to be quite excellent.... it might be just the right thing.
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