Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Blaming the victim

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » The DU Lounge Donate to DU
 
entanglement Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-05 07:26 PM
Original message
Blaming the victim
I've always wondered why do so many people do it? Perhaps it's because the victim is considered a 'loser' of some sort :shrug:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-05 08:14 PM
Response to Original message
1. It's the classic guilt of the "haves."
We've all done it; we love scandal, the sensational flaming out of celebrity hubris. Those who don't really deserve good fortune need to be taken down a peg.

If we have that sneaking suspicion about ourselves, we have to denigrate those others who aren't enjoying our priveleges. "Only little people pay taxes."
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
jpgray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-05 08:15 PM
Response to Original message
2. Having a big/little brother near you in age can bring perspective on this
:D
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-05 08:16 PM
Response to Original message
3. Because they obviously brought it on themselves
through some kind of sin.

Probably homosexual in nature.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
entanglement Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-05 08:42 PM
Response to Reply #3
4. I agree; 'they brought it on themselves'
is something I hear far too often
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
JimmyJazz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-05 08:47 PM
Response to Original message
5. I believe that the reason people blame the victim is so that they
can convince themselves that "it" (whatever "it" is in the particular scenario) can't/won't happen to them. i.e., if I can blame the woman who was raped by saying she was dressed provocatively, I can convince myself (however falsely) that by not dressing provocatively, I won't be raped. It saves having to face reality.

I just think it's some sort of defense mechanism.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
entanglement Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-05 08:48 PM
Response to Reply #5
6. Interesting, I never thought of it as a defense mechanism before
n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Fleshdancer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-05 08:52 PM
Response to Reply #5
7. that's how the sociology books explain it n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-05 08:54 PM
Response to Reply #5
8. It also means that one doesn't have to do anything about it, either
If it's "their fault", then it's not really a crime, so there's no reason to actually do anything.

"She brought the rape on herself". Thus, rape is not a problem.

"He got robbed because he didn't put a good enough lock on his door". Thus, there's no reason to try to reduce burglaries.

Etc.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
JimmyJazz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-05 09:04 PM
Response to Reply #8
10. I agree.
:)
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Nikia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-05 08:58 PM
Response to Reply #5
9. That's sort of why I always blame myself
Even when I am the victim. If the issue was actually my fault, if I behavior correctly next time, it won't happen.
In a way, this makes me feel bad about myself.
In another way, I feel more empowered and less afraid because mean people just don't hurt me for their pleasure. IF I always do the right thing, bad things won't happen to me.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
JimmyJazz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-11-05 09:08 PM
Response to Reply #9
11. You should feel empowered when you behave in a
prudent manner, but even if you always do the right thing, that's no guarantee that something won't happen. It does reduce risks, but it doesn't eliminate them.

But, this isn't the same thing as being introspective and correcting risky behaviors. This is someone on the outside, looking in and making excuses as to why something happened to someone else. It's passing judgment on the innocent.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
AVulgarianHue Donating Member (583 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-12-05 01:21 AM
Response to Original message
12. From an email received today
:banghead:

"I'm sure that your version of the truth has merit, but
I also think that there was merit to what Pat Buchanan said about making people dependent on government help renders them incapable of thinking & fending for themselves in emergencies & the reaction of the poor section of New Orleans certainly shows that happened."
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Thu Apr 18th 2024, 11:26 AM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » The DU Lounge Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC