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CanuckAmok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 10:48 PM
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Poll question: Most Over-rated Rock Band?
This has nothing to do with quality; this is about the dreaded praise:worthiness ratio.

Led Zeppelin. One of the best debut albums ever, but rock stardom and obsession with adolescent occultism made them LAME by album #4.

The Velvet Underground. Proof positive that being a junkie and/or a homosexual does not necessarily make you an artist. Surviving members should be hunted-down before they are allowed to record again. Possibly the first "boy band"?

The Rolling Stones. Pasty white British art-college boys "reinterpreting" black American blues. And not always well. Anyone who's heard any live performance before they became a Vagas-esque spectacle can attest to the fact that they're really just not very good.

REM. Don't get me started...

U2. How one sustained, overprocessed note can be defined as a whole new, groundbreaking guitar style is beyond me. And Bono Vox actually believes the Messianic hype around his persona. Admittedly, they take tough stands on controvertial topics like "war" and "hunger". Imagine how divisive our society would be without four mediocre Irishmen to show us the way to groupie-laden enlightenment!

Oasis. In case you forgot who they are, they're the best group since the Beatles. Maybe ever. I know, I know... I'd forgotten about them, too.

The Tragically Hip. Assuming you don't live in Canada, I'll explain the cultural phenomenon of the Tragically Hip. They're a third-rate bar-band, fronted by a self-proclaimed poet. They managed to "rock hard" at the exact time the CanCon laws created an absence of officially "Canadian" bands who "rock hard". The Hip exist because Canadian rock starions can't play Foghat and Molly Hatchet more than twice per hour. They're the musical equivalent of when the Zamboni comes out and cleans the ice.

The Doors. Do I need to explain this? No. No I do not.

Pearl Jam. See "The Tragically Hip" except with no legislated reasoning. Probably having someone in the band wear a fucking stupid knitted hat in their first video didn't hurt. It sure worked for the Spin Doctors. What, exactly, is a "recess lady", anyway? Is it a teacher? If so, why not just say "teacher"? Hacks. Kneeling and introspectively squinting while guttarally mumbling into a microphone does not make one a prophet. Even if one is banging Shannon Doherty.
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WindRavenX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 10:50 PM
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1. U2 is not overrated
But to each his own.
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Gregorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 11:19 PM
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10. U2 rules. They are underrepresented on college radio.
And Negativeland kicked them around.

I am just now catching on to their brilliance.

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nashville_brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 11:47 PM
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21. over-represented on commercial radio, so i guess the universe is still in
balance.

phew!
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Gregorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 11:11 AM
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37. College radio is not a phrase.
Edited on Fri Oct-21-05 11:41 AM by Gregorian
It IS the definitive source. Not commercial radio. Commercial radio just sifts through college playlists to pick out what they want to play. Over and over and over and over.

But there are only a handful of college stations worth listening to. It took me years to find them.




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driver8 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 08:24 PM
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56. Amen!
I used to be a college dj back in the mid 80's (ahh...what a glorious time for music.) Anyhow, I would listen to some of the djs on our station, and not be able to identify one single artist! I learned so much from these people and discovered so many bands and artists that I loved.

What are some college stations you enjoy? Could you recommend some to me?
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Gregorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 11:56 AM
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84. Right on.
I missed half of the 80's due to college. I remember the first half. But sadly, I wasn't tuned into college radio yet. I wasn't ready. Plus I was working. Kind of hard to rock out in an operating room. But the 90's! Incredible.

I'll say this much- Universities.

Otherwise, pm me. Some of these stations are already having server alerts from the few people who have started listening. It sounds selfish, but it's actually the second most important thing in my life. The stories I could tell. Speakers in the forest. In the barn. Running around naked with an antenna, trying to get reception for one of my favorite shows. That one I'd have to explain.

I'm curious what station you were on.
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jonnyblitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 07:59 AM
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30. oh hell yeah they are.. they get my vote. nt
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Tallison Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 11:02 PM
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64. 1st band I thought of on seeing this thread n/t
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slybacon9 Donating Member (848 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 01:31 PM
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94. Me too. It's okaaay to admit it. They suck now.
Killer albums early on. Peaked with Achtung Baby (which is a great album). But now... COOKED, DONE, OVER, DEAD.

and i wish we all didn't feel some personal responsibility to say we like them.
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Tallison Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 12:15 PM
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114. Love that last line
Although I happen to like them, I think people feel the same compulsion to say they like REM.
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Maestro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 04:48 PM
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119. They may be overexposed, but
not overrated. They are awesome! But for some reason DU has a many U2 haters. :shrug: Hey, but I don't like Coldplay either.
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NNadir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 10:51 PM
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2. The Grateful Dead.
They were rarely in tune and depended completely on the intoxicated condition of their audience.
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CanuckAmok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 10:58 PM
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7. I didn't include the Dead, for the very reason you mentioned.
I don't really consider them to be a band at all. They're more of a cultural phenomenon. Nobody even knows who is/was in the Dead at any given moment, except Garcia. They're like an unkempt Menudo.

You have to be wasted to enjoy the Dead.

Plus, Jerry Garcia's favourite movie was "Rekopis znaleziony w Saragossie", which is the most frustrating three hours I've ever spent in a repertory cinema (which is really saying something).

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0059643/

"In the Napoleonic wars, an officer finds an old book that relates his grandfather's story, Alfons van Worden, captain in the Walloon guard. A man of honor and courage, he seeks the shortest route through the Sierra Morena. At an inn, the Venta Quemada, he sups with two Islamic princesses. They call him their cousin and seduce him; he wakes beside corpses under a gallows. He meets a hermit priest and a goatherd; each tells his story; he wakes again by the gallows. He's rescued from the Inquisition, meets a cabalist and hears more stories within stories, usually of love. He returns to Venta Quemada, the women await with astonishing news."

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slybacon9 Donating Member (848 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 01:36 PM
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95. amen
thanks for being brave enough to face the flames that may be headed your way.
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GirlinContempt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 10:51 PM
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3. Oasis
*snark*
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 11:52 PM
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74. Oasis jumped the shark just when I first heard them.
And I've heard this "new Beatles" crap for years, starting with Klaatu.
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Crazy Guggenheim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 10:51 PM
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4. Almost any Grunge.
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Orrin_73 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 08:53 PM
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58. completely agree
Edited on Fri Oct-21-05 08:54 PM by Orrin_73
grunge is a torture to listen to.

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Tallison Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 11:05 PM
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65. I'm with you
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LuCifer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 10:52 PM
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5. Boston
Edited on Thu Oct-20-05 10:54 PM by LuCifer
GOD I HATE THEM!

Edit: DAMNIT! I forgot to ecplains why I despise them! Ok, plain and simple, Tom Shultz RIPPED OFF BRAIN MAY and QUEEN. They were doing tri-harmonies on the guitar WAY before Boston came on the scene, BUT, everyone gives BOSTON credit for what May and Queen HAD ALREADY DONE, AND DONE BETTER!!! "OH BUT FREDDIE AM BE A HOMO SO I AM BE DON'T WANNA AM BE ADMIT I IS LIKE QUEEN!" Pass the morphine please!

Lu
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fishwax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 11:19 PM
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12. I'd second that one
:puke:
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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 06:52 AM
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24. I agree...
... and that vocalist, god he could make paint peel with that fucked up voice of his.
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LuCifer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 11:25 PM
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70. Boston was like ghetto version of Queen!
Appologies to the rest of us here in the ghetto for comparing y'all to that shit band Boston! It's just like, how the HELL did THEY have the BEST selling debut album ever, and it's damn near impossible to find anyone who knows anything from "QUEEN 1" other than "KEEP YOURSELF ALIVE"! ARRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGG!!!!!

Americas taste in music = DOODOOBROWN!!!!!!!

Lu
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johnnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 07:29 AM
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26. I wouldn't say they are over-rated
I don't even think they are rated any longer. I know they had one or two hits in the late 70s or something, but I wouldn't put them in a category to even be rated.
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Tallison Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 11:06 PM
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66. Were they rated?
:shrug:
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elshiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 10:54 PM
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6. Rolling Stones, great summary of why they are overrated.
Always loved the Velvets, though...
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swag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 11:05 PM
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8. I would say Pearl Jam, but I don't think anybody even rates them,
let alone overrates them.
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eyepaddle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 11:14 PM
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9. Wow, that's perfect.
I couldn't vote for just one. On a regional note I'd pretty much like to include any rockband from the Minneapolis scene. I don't have much use for 1/3 distroted, straight ahead, stripped down rock from the heartland. Mediocrity masquerading as pomposity :puke: (The Replacements are probably the best known Twin Cities band, or Soul Asylum--who incidentally predated grunge by about a decade. I don't like them--but they weren't band wagon jumpers)
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last_texas_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 02:50 AM
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79. Interesting
Soul Asylum are one of my favorite bands and I actually consider them pretty underrated, since IMHO they put out a high-quality, diverse bunch of music but most people don't know them for anything beyond "Runaway Train" and maybe "Misery." I guess the eighties Minneapolis bands may be overrated by some music critics (though the attention does seem to go almost exclusively to the Replacements, sometimes Husker Du) but I do tend to like their sound more than the bulk of the music I've heard from that decade.
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-..__... Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 11:19 PM
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11. In more recent times... Nirvana.
Before that there was Bruce Springsteen and the E Street band.
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Mayberry Machiavelli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 12:29 PM
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86. II was gonna SAY... No Nirvana or Coldplay? C'mon! LOL
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 03:02 PM
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102. shaddap I loved Nirvana
and now I love the foos
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 11:20 PM
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13. The Door...
Talk about being all about show....

Jim Morrison mumbled his way in front of drugged out looneys spinning around while he wagged his saint like penis...

Just for snicks...
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In_The_Wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 11:23 PM
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14. whoops
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Allenberg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 11:24 PM
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15. Creed
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 03:02 PM
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104. god yes how'd we forget them? euuuwww
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liberalpragmatist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 03:38 PM
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115. I wouldn't call them "overrated" though
Pretty much everybody in the know HATES them. Critics, 90% of music fans, etc.
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Gregorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 11:29 PM
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16. It's all so subjective.
I mean The Doors had their genius and their failure. Boston created some incredible tunes, but were white boy American corporate benefactors, but Queen wasn't exactly indy. The dead sound like diahrria, but they produced some absolutely epic tracks. I mean, noodly guitar riffs only go so far. And as much as the average deadhead would argue, I feel that some tracks on Mars Hotel are as mainstream as The Beachboys. Highly produced. REM, I'm still debating.
As for grunge, or "wall of sound", or any other distorted or nonconforming music, all I can say is "musical maturity" doesn't come easy for some. I spent many years playing classical music in symphonies, while my friends went to San Francisco with green hair. I just couldn't understand it. But in time, it clicked. Iggy, Mondo Topless, Pavement, and eventually Ass Baboons from Venus. I call it maturity. Acceptance.

But I still turn down the dial when I hear the Dog Faced Hermans. I guess I'm just not mature enough for them.
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radwriter0555 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 11:29 PM
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17. I disagree outside of the tragically hip thing, never heard of em. I find
that all the bands you mentioned, (okay, maybe oasis is a tad overrated) have had a genuine and positive impact on contemporary music and culture as we know it.

I love all those bands for many reasons. I might not like every note they've ever produced or every video they've ever done, but as artists we can't be expected to fall in love with every effort.

Art is art. Creativity is creativity. We can appreciate the artist and the art without falling all over it and adoring every single piece ever made. We can appreciate the effort and the ability.

The people who don't become popular usually just aren't talented and unique enough for people to notice and appreciate.

Now MAROON 5.. THERE is a band I can live completely without. Forever. PLEASE?

Make them go away.
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DanCa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 11:32 PM
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18. Whatever the latest Boy Band techno tronic crapola pop phase is.
I will probably hate it. Seriously I don't know what the critera is for passing songs on the top 20 anymore is. All I do know is that there is nothing in the world like listening to The East Street Band live. Live in New York City, andd Tenth Avenue Freeze will always be number one in my heart where great performancs rule. In your face BackStreet Boys.
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 11:36 PM
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19. Dave Matthews Band
So overrated it's not even funny!
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theantirobot Donating Member (29 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 11:40 PM
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20. but you've got to admit they are great musicians,
even if you don't like the music.
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 05:30 AM
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22. Hi the antirobot!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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LostInAnomie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 06:48 AM
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23. I will agree 100%
Bunch of no-talent turds.
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seemunkee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 07:35 AM
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28. Hell yeah, cannot figure out why anyone listens to those whiners
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Maestro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 08:20 PM
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53. Thank you.
I must be the only one besides you that doesn't care for the music.
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Maestro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 08:21 PM
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54. I never understood the fascination with Jack Johnson
Phish, Coldplay and few others that don't come to mind right now.
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slybacon9 Donating Member (848 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 01:42 PM
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96. i will be more thhan happy to give you Phish and Coldplay, but
Jack is one of the best in this decade
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Maestro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 04:47 PM
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117. I am sure he is talented
I just don't see how his sound is so great. Obviously I am missing something because he is definitely popular. I'll try to listen to him more and see what happens. ;)
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HughBeaumont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 04:48 PM
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118. There's MY vote -
Edited on Sun Oct-23-05 04:49 PM by HughBeaumont
Great musicians writing primer-paint BORING songs (which sound like the worst elements of solo Sting meeting the worst elements of 90s neo-jam) for the A&F set. What a waste.

I yawned so loud writing that my kid ran upstairs.
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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 06:59 AM
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25. Don't really agree..
...

Zepellin? Great party rock. Who gives a crap about rock lyrics, 90% of them are idiot bullshit spouted by 25 year olds with a guitar.

VU never made any great music but was very influential anyway.

The only thing wrong with the Stones is that they didn't quit after Some Girls.

REM - I loathe, loathe, loathe REM so no sympathy here

U2 - despite being produced by one of the most incredible artists in the biz, most of their work is superficial tripe

Oasis - you have to be kidding me

Tragically Hip - never heard them, but judging from their name alone I'm inclined to dislike them :)

Doors - although this is an unpopular opinion around here, they did some really relevant work IMHO. So they couldn't perform live, that could be said of half the "famous" bands in history

Pearl Jam - did a handful of good songs. And a boatload of tripe. But if there is an award for being copied, they should get it.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 07:34 AM
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27. Collective Soul
:bounce:
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kwassa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 07:51 AM
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29. You are certainly wrong about the Rolling Stones
I've seen them live in a smaller concert, on a basically bare stage. They were great, from beginning to end. Very powerful performance. It was immediately apparent why they were major stars.

Also, by far the best rhythm section in rock and roll, and arguably the best band in rock in terms of quality records at their peak and over the long haul.
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Tallison Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 11:09 PM
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67. Damn straight
"arguably the best band in rock"
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regularguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 08:49 AM
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31. VU: Just 'cause you're bad doesn't mean you're good.
I do like most of the bands on the list though...
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wildhorses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 08:53 AM
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32. Kiss n/t
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no name no slogan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 09:00 AM
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33. Hurl Jam. They're like Zeppelin, without the hooks and solos
I never quite understood the appeal of Pearl Jam. It always sounded like second-rate 70s hard rock, except without the lyrics about elves and shagging-- an no widdly-woo headbanging guitar solos either. Hell, give me Def Leppard any day-- at least those guys don't make any pretensions about being a good-time hard-rock band.

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peekaloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 09:06 AM
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34. I think the Velvets brought in Moe to escape that whole "boy band"
stigma.

:silly:
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MN ChimpH8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 11:06 AM
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35. I never understood VU
- heroin addicts singing out of key and playing badly never did anything for me. I never got Lou Reed solo, either. He leaves me comlpetely cold. John Cale was the only interesting person to come out of that band, and much of his solo stuff is outstanding.

If you want something truly avant garde, try Can. Thirty years later and their stuff still sounds futuristic.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 11:09 AM
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36. The correct answer is KISS. n/t
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Left Is Write Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 11:12 AM
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38. I don't think they're overrated. Only a handful of KISS Army members
think they're the greatest band ever. Most people who are aware of them don't think that much of them! ;)

One thing KISS is great at, though, is self-promotion and marketing gimmicks.
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RogueTrooper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 11:16 AM
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39. Oasis
what utter shite
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CottonBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 11:26 AM
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40. r.e.m. fan here from Athens, GA.
Edited on Fri Oct-21-05 11:27 AM by CottonBear
These guys are huge supporters of local, state and federal Democratic candidates! Michael Stipe spoke at Al Gore's visit here during the 1992 election campaign. I saw Al and it was so very exciting. Thousands of people showed up at the rally on the UGA campus. r.e.m. gives lots of money and time to Democrats and local environmental and historic preservation organizations. They are the real deal and around town they are just regular guys. Mr. CB used to open for them back in the 19080s when everyone was starting out. They were all students and recent grads at the time. r.e.m. continues to support the local music, cultural and art scenes in addition to our Democratic politicians.

Besides, I like their music. It is unique and heartfelt and a little offbeat, just like Athens. Other Athens musicians and bands include the B-52s, Pylon (who I just heard recently at the fabulous 40 Watt Club), Oh OK, Widespread Panic, The Normaltown Flyers, Randall Bramblett, Davis Causey and, of course, Mr CB and his band!

Cheers and greetings from Athens, GA! CB
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driver8 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 08:19 PM
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52. HUGE REM fan here...(see screen name)
These guys are the real deal...they talk the talk but walk the walk, too. (How many cliches can I fit into one sentence?).

Anyhow, I realize that their music isn't for everyone and you all have a right to your opinion. However, check out the album "Murmur". It is, in my opinion, one of the greatest albums ever made!!

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Mayberry Machiavelli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 12:28 PM
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85. "Murmur" rules.. just started listening to it again after not having heard
it for maybe as much as 10 years... wow what a rediscovery, great great music.
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fudge stripe cookays Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 02:41 PM
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100. I still love "Murmur" and "Fables"
Anything post Scott Litt-era production though, I can't get into (with the exception of some stuff around the "Shiny Happy People" phase.

The minute I could understand what Michael Stipe was saying, it wasn't as much fun as trying to make up my own lyrics!

:D
fsc
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driver8 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 05:02 PM
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108. That is exactly how I feel. The last few albums have been
rather weak, IMHO. I didn't bother buying the last one.
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fudge stripe cookays Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 05:07 PM
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109. Ha!
I haven't bothered buying the last....erm...I lost count. How long ago was "Document" anyway?

:P
FSC
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no name no slogan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 04:51 PM
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120. Favorite Michael Stipe quote:
"Mumble mumble mumble (incomprehensible)"

:hi:
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peekaloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 04:15 PM
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116. Give 'Around the Sun' a chance. Seriously.
I bought it when it came out but didn't listen to it based on the "suckage quotient" I was told it contained. :D

As a post-election/post-Katrina (The Boy in the Well/The Outsiders made my jaw drop) listen it's actually not that bad.

I do wish they would "rawk" on the next one though.



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texas1928 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 11:27 AM
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41. The CLASH
:hide:
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RetroLounge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 12:37 PM
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44. Oooh, aren't you brave
:hi:

RL
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eyepaddle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 12:49 PM
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46. I've got your back on this one
but we'll probably pay dearly for our stance! :scared:

:hide:
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Sequoia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 12:24 PM
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42. Okay now, The Doors are pretty good so stop that.
I don't think they're over rated at all. When The Music's Over is superb and talks about enviornmentalism. Robby's riff is just wonderful in that song. Which is my favorite as you can tell.

And U2 will never find what they're looking for.
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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 12:52 PM
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48. The Doors suck. Buncha try-hard poseurs.
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Sequoia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 03:35 PM
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49. Now, Now...you're on my buddy list remember!
I happen to know Robby and his very handsome son. We're not buddy buddy or anything, but nice people and Rob is still married to his wife from those long gone days.
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 12:27 PM
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43. Van Halen - Every iteration
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AntiCoup2K4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 10:51 PM
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62. Blasphemer!
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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 12:46 PM
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45. AREOSMITH
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Mojambo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 02:16 AM
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76. Yes.Yes.Yes.
Way overrated.
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Robeson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 02:23 AM
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78. You nailed that.
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Loonman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 12:51 PM
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47. Guided by Voices
I'm so glad they broke up. Robert Pollard claimed he could write an album a day. Judging by the quality of the unadulterated pap he puts out, I believe him.
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ChavezSpeakstheTruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 07:52 PM
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50. OOOOH - you in for a fight! Paging RandomKoolzip. RandomKoolzip...
pick up the white courtesy phone...
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Atlas Mugged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 08:15 PM
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51. The Beatles
Any particular reason you didn't put them in the poll?
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Zuni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 08:22 PM
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55. I agree on everything but the Rolling Stones
I absolutely love 60s era Rolling Stones, even their early British blues stuff. And some of their live stuff is very good Fun fact--- Brian Jones was the first white guitarist to play bottleneck slide guitar on a record.

You are dead on right about Zep. Some stuff on their first 2 albums rocks, but their future attempts at world music and weird occultism are unlistenable, as is Robert Plant in general.

I love the Doors music (at least alot of it), but I despise Morrison's lyrics. The doors have some rocking insturmental music and Morrison has a good baritone---it is just that Morrison was a shitty "poet"
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Tallison Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 11:12 PM
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68. Didn't know that about Brian Jones
I've always preferred the Stones to Zepplin, but I disagree that Zepplin is overrated; I've just thought the Stones were always underrated.
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PittPoliSci Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 08:30 PM
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57. coldplay
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Maestro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 08:58 PM
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59. Agreed. -nt
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 02:29 PM
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99. Coldplay fan here who agrees that they are overrated
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Merrick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 05:12 PM
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122. Agreed - one trick ponies
can't seem to write anything but sappy tear-jerkers, and even those are all pretty indistinguishable.
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Braden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 09:51 PM
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60. the Eagles
sorry to you eagles fans. But god do they suck.

just my opinion, If you happen to love the Eagles, keep on keeping on.

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Tallison Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 11:13 PM
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69. Steve Miller Band
Kind of the same frat-bro, date-raping cloth.
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Braden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 12:45 PM
Original message
good point. although I dont consider SM rock
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MrSlayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 09:56 PM
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61. U2. You are out of your mind calling Zeppelin overrated.
Just flat out mental.
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CanuckAmok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 01:03 PM
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91. hey, man.... where ya been?
You've missed some fine metal threads, of late.
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MrSlayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 04:21 PM
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106. I've been around here and there.
Haven't seen any Metal threads though. I'll keep a sharper look out.
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AntiCoup2K4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 10:54 PM
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63. Steely Dan
For one thing, two guys can't be a "band". For another it's all overproduced processed cheez whiz crap. Like nails on a chalkboard when that shit comes on the radio.
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ChavezSpeakstheTruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 11:36 PM
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71. They put on one of the best live shows I've ever seen
Big up to Donald Fagan for still kickin' it.
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NNadir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 11:44 PM
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73. Personally I think you're on the wrong planet.
Steely Dan has wit, style, first class musicianship, creativity and hell, they're just fun.

Personally, I think most armchair music criticism though is highly overrated.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 11:55 PM
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75. Amen, brother
I've got my MP3 player LOADED with SD and Donald Fagen. Saw them for the first time in '98. A little disappointing, no stage presence, but I still love 'em.
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Robeson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 02:21 AM
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77. Wrong. They are one of the Most Underrated groups of all time.
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 03:04 PM
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105. truefact!
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fudge stripe cookays Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 05:08 PM
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111. Hmmm....
Coming from someone who gets bummed when you diss Van Halen?

Now THAT says a lot.

:P
fsc
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dxstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 05:42 PM
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112. You're just jealous over how Steely they are!
Don't mess with th' Dan, man...

(I'm kidding... we simply disagree wildly here)...

Led Zep doesn't belong on this list... they are golden gods...
Can't really argue with the rest...
Every U2 song sounds the same to me... but I do like Bono's political stance; he's NOT John Lennon, but it's better than NOTHING, which is what most famous rock musicians are offering in this area...

And VAN HALEN! YEAH! THEY SUCK!!!
I particularly hate their choruses, hate that mix of voices, whoever the lead singer may be; they sound like kiddy-rockers no matter what they do...
d

And now for something completely different...
A Man With Three Buttocks.

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sundog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 11:39 PM
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72. keep your hatred of vu to yourself
:P
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The Sushi Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 02:53 AM
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80. ELO
My god they were BAD
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Robeson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 02:54 AM
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81. Another good call.
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last_texas_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 03:07 AM
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83. Hmm... I don't see them as overrated at all
I love ELO but have never felt nearly as comfortable proclaiming how much I liked them as I would with some "cool" band to like, like Led Zeppelin or Pink Floyd. I'm pretty sure the critics hate them, and didn't think they were that popular with anyone besides seventies pop junkies like myself.
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brentspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 12:44 PM
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87. ELO was cool (IMO)
Jeff Lynne could craft hit records like nobody's business.
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last_texas_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 03:03 AM
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82. My choice would be Radiohead
I don't think there's ever been as much of a distance between what I thought of an album and what the music critics thought of an album as there was after I listened to OK Computer a couple of times. Still haven't figured out the big deal with these guys...

I can see where you're coming from on several of these choices, although at the same time I like more than I dislike by most of them. Overrated is so subjective; the Beatles are my all-time favorite band (have been since I was seven years old) but they're no doubt overrated. Most massively popular bands, from the Rolling Stones to Led Zeppelin to the Doors are. (Though I think the Doors are a great band, even if it's become cool in recent years to act like they're one of the all-time worst.)

I don't know about the Tragically Hip as I'm not familiar with them, but I do disagree on Pearl Jam. I think they're underrated, if anything. I don't think they've made a bad album yet and have really grown as a band through their career. If any "grunge" band is overrated it's Nirvana, and that's due more to the hype surrounding Cobain's suicide at the height of their popularity than their music specifically being overrated.
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brentspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 12:45 PM
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88. I like Kid A, but overall, the band is overrated
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brentspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 12:46 PM
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89. Pasty white English boys, the Stones, did blues fantastically well
Probably the greatest band of all time.
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tjdee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 12:55 PM
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90. Jim Morrison and his "song writing" crack me up every time.
Edited on Sat Oct-22-05 12:55 PM by tjdee
Oh, Mr. Deep Lizard King....

I do like two or three of their songs, but all in that kitschy, surely you can't take this seriously kind of way.

I mean, "People are strange when you're a stranger"?
"Try to run, try to hide, break on through to the other side"?
"I'm gonna love you till the stars fall from the sky for you and I"? The poppy cheesy music that tops that off (on the "classic" "Touch Me") is hilarious!

The Doors as a band are so overrated in terms of actual musical talent, as well as their "deepness". "The End", especially, hilarious.
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CanuckAmok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 01:06 PM
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"If they said I never loved you, you know they are a liar."
In all of recorded music, that has to be the worst grammatical abomination.

"they" can be liars not a liar.
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brentspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 01:17 PM
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93. I disagree on that one
Edited on Sat Oct-22-05 01:23 PM by brentspeak
I always considered that a good use of a deliberate grammatical mistake, which is called an enallage (a greek word). Other examples of an enallage: 1930's boxing manager Joe Jacobs: "We was robbed!"; James Joyce having Molly Bloom say "My patience are exhausted."
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Celeborn Skywalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 01:06 PM
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92. Probably U2 (nt)
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mr blur Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 01:53 PM
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97. You forgot Queen.
good call on U2 though. And Oasis.
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immoderate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 02:07 PM
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98. Good call on U2
But to give credit where it's due they actually know two chords, G and D.

--IMM
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maveric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 02:48 PM
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101. I hate to hijack but could you explain that graphic you have in your sig.
It looks like Charles Nelson Riley in costume???
My Enquiring mind needs to know.
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CanuckAmok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 05:08 PM
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110. The answers you seek:
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Parche Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 03:02 PM
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103. U2
U2 IS THE BEST


The Rolling Bones have no musical savvy
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kwassa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 04:28 PM
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107. Pink Floyd: a mystery to me why anyone ever listened to them
snooze inducing, soporific, cure for insomnia
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dxstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 05:47 PM
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113. You poor baby...
You poor, poor child...
:cry:

And now for something completely different...
A Small Stuffed Bear With a Gun!

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Xipe Totec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 04:54 PM
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121. Spinal Tap
I mean, c'mon, it was supposed to be a parody!
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