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Zuni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 08:12 PM
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Ike Turner?
Edited on Fri Oct-21-05 08:14 PM by Zuni
:shrug:

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swag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 10:18 PM
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1. Great musician, composer, arranger, and allegedly a real asshole to Tina
Edited on Fri Oct-21-05 10:20 PM by swag
and others.

Rock and roll, funk, soul, and fans of those genres owe big debts to Ike Turner.

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Zuni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 10:47 PM
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3. "Rocket 88"
Edited on Fri Oct-21-05 10:56 PM by Zuni
with Ike Turner and the Kings of Rythym backing Jackie brenston was the first rock n roll song


on edit---Swag's biography corrects me. Jackie Brenston (who wrote some of the lyrics) was credited as the titular artist on the record, but Ike was the leader of the band

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Aristus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 10:33 PM
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2. Who?
:shrug:

I've heard of Tina Turner, but Ike? :shrug:











;-)
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swag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 10:48 PM
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4. Here's a dry summary
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ike_Turner

Ike Turner (born Izear Luster Turner Jr.) (born November 5, 1931) is an American musician (piano, guitar), bandleader, talent scout and record producer. He is a member of the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.

Turner was born in Clarksdale, Mississippi. His musical career began with his childhood piano teacher, Pinetop Perkins, who taught him the boogie-woogie that he later transformed into early rock and roll. Turner's 1951 recording of "Rocket 88" is considered one of the earliest examples of rock and roll with a driving back beat and topped with electric guitar and wailing saxophone. It was a sharp contrast from the relatively more jazzy and sophisticated jump blues or swing combo music that preceded it.

The record was released under the name of Jackie Brenston and his Delta Cats, but was actually performed by Ike Turner and His Kings of Rhythm. Through music-business intrigue, Brenston, Turner's saxophone player, ended up with artist and co-author credit on Turner's tune.

Musically, he was known for an agressive, hard-hitting lead guitar style. He was known to put the whammy bar of his Fender Stratocaster to frequent use. In addition to his bandleading and performing, Turner was a talent scout and informal A & R man for independent record companies, including Sun Records, and played guitar or piano as side man for many pioneer blues performers, including Robert Nighthawk, Sonny Boy Williamson II, Elmore James, and Otis Rush.

. . . more
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swag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 10:51 PM
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5. part 2
Turner is also noted for introducing the classic soul music show to general audiences with the Ike and Tina Turner Revue, featuring a full band, Tina Turner, and the Ikettes, a female trio of frantic singers and dancers. The Revue opened for the Rolling Stones on their American tours in 1966 and 1969.

Ike was married to Tina Turner for 18 years, starting in 1960. In her autobiography I, Tina, later filmed as What's Love Got to Do with It?, she accused him of violent spousal abuse, which Ike repeatedly denied for many years. However, in his 2001 autobiography Ike admitted, "Sure, I've slapped Tina... There have been times when I punched her without thinking. But I never beat her." Turner's many problems off the stage are likely have been exacerbated by his drug addiction, resulting in his abusive behaviour and relationship with his wife and children. Ike's complete dominance over Tina's life eventually become too much for her, and after an unsuccessful suicide attempt, she walked out on him in 1975, with nothing more than thirty-six cents and a gas station credit card. The two were divorced in 1978. Ike Turner was later convicted and served time in a California State Prison for drug related charges.

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Aristus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 10:54 PM
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6. swag,
you did notice the ;-) , didn't you?

I'm just revelling in the fact that Tina Turner is a smoking-hot, unstoppable performing goddess, and Ike is the pathetic musical footnote he deserves to be.
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Zuni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 10:58 PM
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8. actually, in the long run, Ike is far more important in a musical sense
his band recorded the very first rock and roll song in 1951, Rocket 88. with the Hot Rod lyrics and fast boogie woogie, it predates Chuck berry's Maybelline by 4 years
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swag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 11:27 PM
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10. Don't look at the little yellow things.
Only read the words, me.
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Ptah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 10:55 PM
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7. Wife beater. n/t
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Zuni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 11:00 PM
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9. yup. a real asshole
there are disputes as to the extent of the abuse (Ike claims that he never raped Tina, as potrayed in the film "What has Love Got to Do With It, but he does admit hitting her.)

Whatever the full truth, there is no doubt he was extremely abusive
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progmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 11:52 PM
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11. hate the man
love the music.
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