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GoddessOfGuinness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 01:52 PM
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A Question for D.U. Grammar Geeks
In writing a letter to two chairmen (both gentlemen) of a committee, which greeting is correct?

A) Dear Mr. Chairmen

B) Dear Misters Chairmen

I'm assuming "Dear Mrs. Chairmen" would be inappropriate for obvious reasons. And "Dear Mr.s Chairmen" is simply too weird.

Now suppose that one was writing a letter to chairmen of mixed or unknown genders. What greeting would be proper?

Thanks for your replies! :beer:
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Midlodemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 01:56 PM
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1. I would write
Dear Sirs:

If you know they are both men.
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Oeditpus Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 01:56 PM
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2. 'Dear Sirs' is the first answer
"Misters Chairmen" is stilted.

For the second, "Dear Chairpersons."
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GoddessOfGuinness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 02:06 PM
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8. I like the chairpersons idea...
Can you think of a neat alternative to "Dear Sir or Madam"?
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Oeditpus Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 02:15 PM
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10. Not really
When gender and name(s) are both unknown, you've gotta go totally generic, like "Dear Chairpersons" or "Dear Asshats" or whatever.

FWIW, I recall a cover-letter tutorial from years back advising that if the name is known but it's gender-neutral, like "Pat," the salutation should be the full name, i.e. "Dear Pat Grumblemeyer."
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In_The_Wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 01:56 PM
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3. I would go with Dear Chairmen
and leave off the "Mr."
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 01:58 PM
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4. Dear Mssrs. Chairman
This would be how to address an invitation to a gay male couple (as in Mssrs. Smith and Jones), since Mssrs. is the plural of Mister.

But I don't know if you would stick with ChairmAn or go to ChairmEn; I say go with the A as I have in the subject line.
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GoddessOfGuinness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 02:12 PM
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9. Mssrs.
I like that.

I think I'd still need to use the plural "chairmen", though, as misters is modifying the noun.

If I remember my German grammar properly, they use plural forms of adjectives for plural nouns. It would make sense that we'd use it in this instance too...or simply go with the singular "mister".
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eyesroll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 01:58 PM
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5. I might write:
Dear Chairmen:

Dear Chairpersons:

Dear Mr. X and Mr. Y:
(if you know their names)
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RebelOne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 02:03 PM
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6. I would just go with the simple Dear Sirs.
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GoddessOfGuinness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 02:15 PM
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11. That certainly would be the simplest...
This letter has already been composed here: http://www.kintera.org/site/c.aoIILPOsGpF/b.1120001/k.D029/Petition/apps/ka/ct/contactus.asp?c=aoIILPOsGpF&b=1120001&en=6oIBLPPxHbJALKOpE7IAKTPDLfKGKRMqE9IML1NEKsF

The awkwardness of the greeting makes me want to recompose the letter, though.
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Crazy Guggenheim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 02:05 PM
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7. See if this helps. Here's a link to ...........
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 02:17 PM
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12. I would say "Gentlemen," I think. n/t
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VaYallaDawg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 03:55 PM
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17. I'm with you, I'd use Gentlemen.
As long as it's two men. If it's one of each, or both women, then I'm lost too. I think "Dear Ladies" sounds like the start of a bad novel.
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Prisoner_Number_Six Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 02:18 PM
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13. "To Whom This Concerns"
Very formal, but it bypasses everything, and does it generically so nobody is insulted or left out.
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Sanity Claws Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 03:59 PM
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22. I hate this greeting
Sorry. In the movies, suicide notes start that way.
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 02:18 PM
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14. How about "Hey youse guys" or "Listen, ya buncha wiseasses"
Edited on Mon Oct-24-05 02:19 PM by ComerPerro
That's how I would write it, if I was trying to be professional.
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RedCloud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 02:28 PM
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15. Dear assholes who cannot trust each other enough...
to the point where neither of you is willing to allow the other to chair and now I have to write a most awkward letter and ask the good folks at DU how to fucking address you fuckers,

(I have heard that the more people on the committee, the weaker the chair. But two chairs? This is absurd unless they were interviewing you for multiple positions, but still, their freaking overlord or overlady should have stepped in...)
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Gormy Cuss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 05:11 PM
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24. Public relations major in college?
:spray:

Oh, if I only I had the nerve to address letters that way.
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Bossy Monkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 03:52 PM
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16. Plural of "mister" is "messrs," but it's an awfully awkward construction
It isn't really a grammar/usage question so much as a business etiquette one; ask yourself how you would like to be addressed. I'd go with their last names and would regardless of gender (substituting Ms. where needed, of course): Dear Mr. _____ and Mr. ________ (unless you know them both fairly well, in which case first names would be more appropriate).
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Shakespeare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 03:59 PM
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20. For correspondence, it's just "Mssrs."
Not awkward, and should work fine.

"Gentlemen" or "Dear Gentlemen" is another suitable choice.
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bertha katzenengel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 03:56 PM
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18. I'd write "Dear Chairmen:"
:shrug:

:beer: on me :hi:
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MarsThe Cat Donating Member (978 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 03:58 PM
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19. do you know their names?
if not, i'd find out and use those. send one letter to each, and show the other as cc'd.
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KG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 03:59 PM
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21. yo, homeys!
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mzteris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 05:03 PM
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23. I like Gentlemen: but see below:
Tip: Two or More Men
Dear Mr. Gelb and Mr. Harris:
Dear Mssrs. Gelb and Harris: (more formal)
Gentlemen: (more formal)
Sirs: (more formal)

http://writing.lifetips.com/subcat/63389/salutations/two-people/index.html
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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 05:14 PM
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25. Dear Most Awesome Chairdudes (if it's a positive letter). If you're
ripping them or their committee, I'd go with "Dear Nasty Little Fuckweasels:"
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skygazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 05:16 PM
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26. I would use "Gentlemen"
and leave off the "dear" which is more familiar. But that's just me.
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