LostInAnomie
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Thu Oct-27-05 05:43 PM
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Has anyone else ever read the Uni-Bombers manifesto? |
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Just wondering if I was the only one.
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Jamastiene
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Thu Oct-27-05 05:45 PM
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1. I read it. I don't remember much though except |
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that he seemed to hate technology.
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Thu Oct-27-05 05:52 PM
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2. Yeah, that's pretty much the basic gist of it. |
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But it took him 35,000 words to make that point.
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Thu Oct-27-05 06:12 PM
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3. I felt like it was more like a million words, preachy ones too. |
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:D
I have also read the Communist Manifesto. You know, most of the people I know in real life have never read it. The document by itself isn't that incendiary. Oddly enough.
The Unibomber was one weird one though. It seems to me that he imposed that way he was living (no electricity, no running water, no technology) on himself and then took it out on other people who did have those things.
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Thu Oct-27-05 06:26 PM
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4. From what I have read about him... |
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... he was an extreme genius who turned on higher education after being fired from his job as a professor. He's an odd duck though.
I agree with you about the Communist Manifesto as well. There is nothing really that controversial in there unless you have absolutely ignorant about Marxism. The only real way to get anything incendiary out of it is to take certain lines out of context. You can do that with any book from Harry Potter to the Bible though.
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Thu Oct-27-05 07:11 PM
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6. I've read The Communist Manifesto a few times... |
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Edited on Thu Oct-27-05 07:12 PM by primate1
And wrote a half-assed (B) paper about Marx's critique of political economy and capitalism. The man made some good points. As for the Unabomber's manifesto, I attempted to read it but didn't care enough to finish it. http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Industrial_Society_and_Its_Future <-- The manifesto http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theodore_Kaczynski <-- Plenty of info on the Unabomber
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Thu Oct-27-05 10:44 PM
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But it wasn't technology, per se, that he was railing against. It was the *use* of technology to create a uniform, technocratic, collective, society, were everyone was part of the "machine", and lacked fundamental freedoms of self. His solution was smash the way we think about all kinds of technology, and make its use optional, rather than compulsory.
I thought it was quite a cohesive piece, not too bad as manifestos go.... but still, sadly, a genius mind trapped in a fugue state.
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Thu Oct-27-05 06:27 PM
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5. Yeah...I read it when it came out |
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What a weirdo... a very intelligent weirdo at that!
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Thu Oct-27-05 07:13 PM
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I also read ALL of the 1996 Telecommunications Act.
I'm like the Indiana Jones of paper reading.
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Thu Oct-27-05 07:35 PM
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8. Oh yeah, well I read all of "The Wealth of Nations". |
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Bet you haven't done that.
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Thu Oct-27-05 07:48 PM
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Have you read the UNHCR Charter and NGO Guidelines?
That was actually kind of fun. We turned it into an e-Learning tool for the UN.
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Thu Oct-27-05 07:50 PM
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Edited on Thu Oct-27-05 07:52 PM by LostInAnomie
But I have read "Pimp" by Iceberg Slim. Oh, and every book by Nietzsche I have been able to get my hands on.
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Thu Oct-27-05 07:53 PM
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12. I've read Twilight of the Idols and The Antichrist |
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but nothning else. I read excerpts of Iceberg Slim's stuff, my brother digs him and has a couple of his books around.
I've read The Brother's Karamazov, it's still one of my favorite books.
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Thu Oct-27-05 08:12 PM
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13. Alright, I'll admit it. I've never read a book in my life. |
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I haven't even read any of the posts here on DU.
I just like to be part of a group. :cry:
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Thu Oct-27-05 08:14 PM
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I'm illiterate... Mrs. McLargehuge types all my posts.
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Thu Oct-27-05 08:19 PM
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I was just trying to draw you out so that you would admit it!
BUSTED! :evilgrin:
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Thu Oct-27-05 07:40 PM
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9. Read it, he had some interesting insites |
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But horribly flawed in the end.
There has always been a voice within society that wants to resist change and progress. They see it as a desrtuctive force. And in a way it is. But life consumes life to live. And progress destroys old ways to make way for better one's.
The trouble is we cannot know whether the new ways will work better or not. That is the crisis. The old ways may be flawed but we know them and have adapted to them. They work in comfortable ways.... for some. And that is the problem. What may be satisfactory for some may be oppressive to others. Thus we keep descontructing our current way and try to fathom a new one.
It can cause some to become reactionary to progress. They reject it and isolate themself. They begin to view the constant march forward as a illness in itself. A compulsion. In truth they are projecting. They are the one's that have developed a compulsion. They can no longer handle life which is about change and embrace death.
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Thu Oct-27-05 08:26 PM
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It can cause some to become reactionary to progress. They reject it and isolate themself. They begin to view the constant march forward as a illness in itself. A compulsion. In truth they are projecting.
At what point does their projecting become prophetic? When does it become just crazy talk? I believe that some people arrive at the cusp, and ???
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Thu Oct-27-05 08:28 PM
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17. Rantings of a Madman. |
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Thu Oct-27-05 08:48 PM
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18. Read it, but wasn't that impressed |
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(Although he had a more coherent philosophy than other mad bombers/terrorists)
I also read a lengthy piece he wrote for a Green/Anarchist magazine about 3 years ago which basically just recycled the same ideas.
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Thu Oct-27-05 10:30 PM
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19. I read it. I had never run across those ideas before... |
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They aren't new of course. I enjoyed it and agreed with a lot of it.
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Thu Oct-27-05 10:45 PM
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21. Ages ago. Abominable prose if I recall correctly. |
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