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TheMightyFavog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 05:29 PM
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Stupid LTTE in the Green Bay Paper...
Edited on Fri Oct-28-05 05:31 PM by JonathanChance
http://www.greenbaypressgazette.com/news/archive/opinion_23119895.shtml

Annual harvest fest fun and appropriate

GREEN BAY — Halloween! Why?

Why not have harvest festivals all over the nation instead of teaching children to get something for nothing — about the worst thing you can ever teach a child? Why are we spending over a billion dollars on candy, costumes and home decorations, when we are a great Christian nation?

Or are we a great Christian nation? Or a pagan nation? Time will tell. We are supposed to be a great Christian nation, yet we honor this pagan druid ancient feast day as if it is one of our own.

Fun? Wouldn’t a harvest festival be more fun? Why not celebrate life, rather than death? We are a Christian nation. Why should we celebrate death when we can celebrate life?

Let us put to death this ancient druid feast day that celebrates death rather than life. Our Christian holidays celebrate life rather than death — Christmas and Easter, for example. Let’s think about it.

Francis Kamenick

WTF? What is it with fundies? Why is it that anything that's fun is automatically bad in thier book?
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Ellen Forradalom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 05:41 PM
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1. Easter celebrates life?
The passion and resurrection seem pretty gruesome to me.
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Parche Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 07:00 PM
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6. Passion
I thought this was a Sex post when I heard Passion and ResErection
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Zomby Woof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 05:44 PM
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2. Damn Packers fans
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ChoralScholar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 05:47 PM
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3. its the Puritan ideal
If it feels good, it must be bad.

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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 05:47 PM
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4. It's not entirely stupid. Though we can all estimate who the writer likes
and that would be *.

She's just a bushbot. Knows the words, but knows not the meanings nor does she actively LOOK around just to see how we truly are anything BUT a Christian nation.

Does she even know what Christ died for? (it's not for our sins. Jesus died for His way of life. Which weas about compassion and giving and everything opposite of greed.)
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RetroLounge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 06:19 PM
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5. Francis Kamenick
is an AssHat.

RL
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northzax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 07:19 PM
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7. ok, Francis, we got a deal
I'll give up my pagan ritual, if you give up yours. Does that mean we don't have to celebrate the ancient druidic winter solstice as the mythical birthdate of a mythical figure actually born sometime in the Spring?
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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 07:24 PM
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8. No Christmas trees or mistletoe for the Fundies. Those are pagan symbols.
Edited on Fri Oct-28-05 07:30 PM by ocelot
No Easter bunnies, either -- rabbits are an old pagan fertility symbol that got mixed in with the Christian holiday.
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BBradley Donating Member (645 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 07:33 PM
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9. No more holy communion for Catholics either.
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WritingIsMyReligion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 07:44 PM
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13. ROFL! How true!
:D :D
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MadAsHellNewYorker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 07:36 PM
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10. HAHAHA! Alright Francis! You put up your
Edited on Fri Oct-28-05 07:36 PM by MadAsHellNewYorker
christian christmas tree and christian reef on your door......oh wait, they're PAGAN SYMBOLS! :rofl:

oh yea, and Easter is about life? maybe zombie life...
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Ellen Forradalom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 10:49 PM
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19. Same goes for Easter eggs
and Easter bunnies. Dumbass.
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ismnotwasm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 07:41 PM
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11. What a dummy.
I believe the pagan Harvest festivals were kinda wiped out, by a um, competing religious ideology. Halloween is but a remnant. Nice of him/her to want to bring 'em back though.
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WritingIsMyReligion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 07:43 PM
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12. Samhain isn't about death, I don't think.
Well, it IS--sort of--but not death is a "bad" sense. More of death as being something crucial to life. Isn't it the beginning of the winter half of the year or something in the Wiccan calendar? It really is a fascinating holiday.

A pagan DUer, please comment on this. Do I have it right?
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 09:12 PM
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16. Right enough -- the wheel is turning, it's New Year's basically
out with the old, in with the new.... and it celebrates those we love who have passed on -- like All Soul's Day.
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Fox Mulder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 07:45 PM
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14. Christmas is a pagan holiday...
is it not?
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 09:11 PM
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15. *sigh* it doesn't celebrate DEATH, not like he means it...
So many people are so uneducated about Paganism....

And Halloween is NOT a Pagan Feast Day... Samhain is. Halloween has aspects of Samhaim, but that's it.
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 09:13 PM
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17. And, could Easter eb anymore non-Christian???
It's name, when it's celebrated, all the fertility symbols, the resurrection theme...
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 09:15 PM
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18. We are NOT an Xtian nation.
This country was NOT founded on Xtian principles. This country was created with the intent to SEPARATE CHURCH AND FUCKING STATE. GET THAT THROUGH YOUR THICK SKULLS, FUNDIES.
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NMMNG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 10:55 PM
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20. Arrrgh!!!
These people need to go live on some freaking island where they can control everyone according to their warped "Christian principles" (which have no real Christianity in them) and leave the normal people the heck alone. :banghead:
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CatBoreal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-29-05 12:09 AM
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21. Harvest Festival? How Pagan!
Uuuummm... what do you think Samhain is?

It's a celebration of the end of the growing cycle. And what do you do at the end of the growing cycle? You harvest what you've grown!

People worked hard during those times, by moonlight (which is why we call it a Harvest Moon!) to bring the crops in. When the work was done, they celebrated, blew off steam by going door to door and scaring their neighbours. That is as much a part of Samhain as the recognition of the end of the cycle and the beginning of a new one with all the mysticism involved in that one night.

So please, fundies, have your harvest festival. It's probably a far more Pagan means of celebrating Samhain than going out and getting candy.
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LaraMN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-29-05 12:13 AM
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22. Don't worry, someone will inevitably egg his house.
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KitchenWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-29-05 12:13 AM
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23. OMG
Isn't death a part of the life cycle?

Amongst other thoughts...

And NO, we are not a Christian nation.
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