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jeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-03 06:50 PM
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Poll question: Michael Jackson, guilty or innocent
Edited on Thu Nov-20-03 07:04 PM by jeter
So I wonder what everyone here thinks. There may be a poll on this already. I'm too lazy to look through the archives.

So what do you all think?

Edited by popular demand.
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Liberal Veteran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-03 06:53 PM
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1. Can we have a choice for....
Presumed not guilty until proven by a preponderance of the the evidence in a court of law by a jury of his peers (which should prove interesting to find) and I will not judge until have I have the evidence to make a decent determination because I am a democrat who believes that acusation does not necessarily equal guilt?
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grannylib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-03 06:54 PM
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3. Hear, hear...thank you
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cosmicdot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-03 08:36 PM
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32. at least a "too soon to say" - even Norfolk's Pilotonline has this
... despite trying and convicting him already ... there's a mob mentality loose

Yes 63.25%

No 11.7%

Maybe 10.37%

Too soon to say 14.69%

the judicial system in this country leave room for improvement ...

Hinkley allegedly shot a President, et al, and, sooner or later, he'll be out on the streets

Rush commits felonies and he's making millions as we speak

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sujan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-03 06:54 PM
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2. not guilty
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-03 06:54 PM
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4. "Don't Give A Flying Fuck"
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jeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-03 07:00 PM
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12. Hey Will, I was actually going to include that
But I thought...no, everyone will choose that. I want to know if people actually think he is guilty at this point.

I just want to gauge where people stand.
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Liberal Veteran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-03 07:06 PM
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17. You still have to be fair and have some form of "undecided" as a choice
For people like me, I will not vote in any poll that forces me into a simple digital answer when I am not privy to the evidence.
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Journeyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-03 07:00 PM
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13. I believe that may prove to be Michael's problem. . .
If he does give 'em.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-03 07:31 PM
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27. tell us will -just what do you think?
really- i think you`re holding back....
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Superfly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-03 06:55 PM
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5. How about we have a trial first
before speculating...
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goobergunch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-03 06:56 PM
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6. A combination of posts #1 and #4 (n/t)
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Darranar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-03 06:58 PM
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9. Same.
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Hawkeye-X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-03 06:57 PM
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7. Can I have a poll that says
"I don't give a rat's ass?"

Hawkeye-X
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seventhson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-03 07:01 PM
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14. My twenty year old sister in law says: it's a conspiracy
to keep the police riots in Miami and the british bush toppling and protest and rage off of CNN and the news.

What a gal.

She doesn't have an opinion on guilt or innocence but she thinks the timing is all BFEE.

I agree.

Smart cookie for a 20 year old.

But then she is living with us and I rant about this every day (She went with my wife and 14 year old daughter on a NY bus to DC for the protests last month too.)

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parasim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-03 06:57 PM
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8. why only 2 choices?
Where is the one that says "He is innocent until proven guilty"?

It's beyond me how anyone can say for sure whether or not he is guilty simply because they don't like him and think he's a freak.

Anybody can accuse somebody of something, but don't we still have due process in this country?
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_NorCal_D_ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-03 06:58 PM
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10. I would rather not speculate.
This belongs in a court of law, not on the major news networks.
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Piperay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-03 06:59 PM
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11. Not guilty
Edited on Thu Nov-20-03 07:16 PM by Piperay
the timing of this whole scandal stinks to high heaven, whenever the repukes have something they want to cover up they always manage to get the usual suspects trotted out. :mad:



Edit: spelling
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Character Assassin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-03 07:02 PM
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15. This thing is beginning to stink like Denmark.
I lean towards hanging a frame on him.
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Lady Freedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-03 07:04 PM
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16. innocent till proven guilty!
And did you have to hit the media?????Ouch! :evilfrown:
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jeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-03 07:06 PM
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18. What you think the media are innocents here?
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Liberal Veteran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-03 07:09 PM
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19. The media are the only people I can honestly say are guilty....
...of Gross Sensationalism.

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jeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-03 07:11 PM
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21. The media in this country are just out of control
I don't know how to stop it and not violate the first ammendment. But the media suck. Period.
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Lady Freedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-03 07:16 PM
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23. M.J is innocent till proven guilty as every other person accused...
of a crime! As for the media, I am part of the media! It just gets tirersome when both sides ( Dems and Rep.) yell that we work for the other!:eyes:
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-03 07:11 PM
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20. what, no innocent by reason of insanity choice?
it's what I'd pick if I was his lawyer.

Or is it guilty of being gooorgeous?

Ewww--did you see the mugshot? It looked like they plucked an albino goldfish out of his bowl for a quick photo!
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MnFats Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-03 07:14 PM
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22. wake me up when there's a verdict.
I don't want to listen, watch or read another word about this until it's over.
It is a waste of bandwidth, airtime and newsprint. But Americans are absolutely OBSESSED with celebrities. It's embarrassing.

meanwhile our "president" leads us toward being the most hated people in the world, and conflagrations around the world beg to be doused. It won't happen.

Huxley had it wrong. They don't need to invent Soma (his version, not the muscle relaxant that actually exists). Television is the soothing reassuring solution to all our problems.
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Piperay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-03 07:19 PM
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25. It's not just Americans
I heard that there is press from all over the World, miles and miles of press vechicles...even China has sent media to cover it. :argh: :mad: :grr:
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TrogL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-03 07:17 PM
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24. It will turn out to be nowheres that simple
I suspect that some stuff went on that may have been questionable, in bad taste or a bit over the edge.

I think Jackson is mentally incompetent. I think he's got the emotional responses of a little kid. I don't think he's capable of assembling the mental concept of doing anything really nasty to kids. He's trying to be a kid himself.

He needs help, has needed help for a long time and probably isn't going to get it unless he wants it (which his probably beyond his ability to comprehend) and pays for it.
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jus_the_facts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-03 08:26 PM
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30. my sentiments exactly....
...sad waste of great talent too. :(
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-03 07:26 PM
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26. Smells like a shakedown to me. The boy was on TV with...
Mike just 6 months ago talking about his time with Mike in his home. And he attested that no inappropriate behaviour had taken place. I have a tape of the program. A poor family sees a golden opportunity to become rich. That's the way I see it. FREE JACKO!
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Lefty48197 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-03 07:32 PM
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28. I think Michael should go to jail for that face.
It's a crime against humanity.
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salinen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-03 07:55 PM
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29. jacko
has been shut down indefinately. no more jacko threads. sorry, but we've exceeded the limit.
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-03 08:36 PM
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31. Pretend he's Kobe
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-03 08:41 PM
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33. 1 & 3...
With emphasis on #3.
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BringEmOn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-03 09:53 PM
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34. A little of each
This guy has some serious problems.
...the media will say anything for $$$
Who gives a s**t about Michael Jackson. Bush should go to prison.

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VermontDem2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-03 03:15 AM
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35. Trial please
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imax2268 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-03 03:17 AM
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36. I could really care less...
there's more important things to worry about...
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