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wildhorses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 04:03 PM
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ANY PHOTOGRAPHERS IN HERE? NEED ADVICE PLEASE
Edited on Thu Dec-22-05 04:07 PM by wildhorses
concerning a professional photographer's rights....and how much right does an assistant have to the product???
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wildhorses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 04:09 PM
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1.  kicking this because I would really like to have a
professional photographer's advice right now....I also posted in the photography forum
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democracyindanger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 04:15 PM
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2. Not a pro, but some familiarity with copyrights
And generally an assistant has no rights to the product--but of course it depends on the amount and type of labor the assistant provided. Still, there would be no assumption that the assistant gets credit to the finished product just because he's an assistant.

Really hard to speculate any more than that without details.
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wildhorses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 04:19 PM
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4. is this federal or state laws?
Edited on Thu Dec-22-05 04:30 PM by wildhorses
this incident crosses state lines and the photos were obtained under false pretenses I am not looking for credit...I would just like to see the pics....and have copies for my own as these were taken (some of them) on my private property
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democracyindanger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 04:49 PM
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14. I think copyright issues are federal
But having read your posts in the thread, I don't think you've got much of a leg to stand on. If there was no prior agreement to let you see the photos or have copies, it all belongs to the photographer.
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wildhorses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 04:54 PM
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16. no, there was an agreement....but now he is saying there
was not....he lied about everything....pretending to be personally interested in me, got the pics, went back to Minnesota and then dumped me....now he is saying they are his pics...which I knew I was on shaky ground legally....it is the lack of morals on his part that really PISS me off...come to find out the MF is a repug to boot....:puke: I am just SICK about the whole thing
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henslee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 04:17 PM
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3. A paid assistant has rights to intellectual still image property? But he
is not the artist/the photographer.
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wildhorses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 04:20 PM
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5. so as an assistant I would have rights to the still images
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Call Me Wesley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 04:22 PM
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6. Where's the photographer?
And is there a client for whom the pictures were made?
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wildhorses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 04:23 PM
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7. the photographer is in St. Paul, Minnesota and I do not know if
Edited on Thu Dec-22-05 04:26 PM by wildhorses
there is a client or not...I do not think there was a paticular client in mind....unless he would be trying to appraoch HGTV...these are shots of gingerbread house contest and landscpes of surrounding countryside....in a different state from Minnesota...I think he wants to put together a show for next summer
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Call Me Wesley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 04:29 PM
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8. Can you contact him?
I just don't think the assistant has any rights, but I'm not familiar with US law. The photographer might have the rights on the product if there was no client; otherwise the original photographer holds the right of the 'negatives', which came obsolete with digital imaging.

I'd suggest you contact the photographer.
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wildhorses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 04:31 PM
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9. I did....he is being a JERK
he is NOT a nice guy....please read above posts I keep adding info
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Call Me Wesley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 04:37 PM
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10. As I said, I'm not
a lawyer, and it might be totally different where I live. But if a photographer comes and takes picture of our house, these pictures are mine, no matter what, since it's private property. I don't think that's what you're asking though.
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wildhorses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 04:39 PM
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11. well there are about 400 photographs involved here
Edited on Thu Dec-22-05 04:39 PM by wildhorses
some were taken on MY property and some were taken of the surrounding countryside.
They were taken with a digital camera...does that make a difference
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Call Me Wesley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 04:42 PM
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12. Do I get it right,
that you want to have the ones that were taken on your property? If you did not give the photographer permission to do so, these pictures are yours. Even the ones showing just an inch of your property.
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wildhorses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 04:47 PM
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13. I gave my permission but it was obtained under false pretenses
Edited on Thu Dec-22-05 04:48 PM by wildhorses
I thought this was to be a souvneir and the building of a relationship...I am now finding out otherwise....
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Call Me Wesley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 04:51 PM
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15. No written contract, I guess?
I know it sucks, but you might want to contact a lawyer. :(
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wildhorses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 04:55 PM
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17. no written contract...I thought it was all for personal fun and
the esblishing of a relationship....I feel like the biggest dumbass...
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Call Me Wesley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 04:58 PM
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18. That's bad, I'm sorry.
So I assume you were the assistant then? I'd contact a lawyer. :hug:
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wildhorses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 05:06 PM
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19. chedk your PM
:hug:
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Call Me Wesley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-22-05 05:10 PM
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20. Done. Check yours. (nt)
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