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bif Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-24-03 11:04 AM
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Michael Jackson's innocent?
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RebelOne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-24-03 11:05 AM
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1. Until he's proven guilty.
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Kamika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-24-03 11:07 AM
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2. EXACTLY
exactly what I was gonna write.

In USA you're innocent till proven guilty.
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VermontDem2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-24-03 11:09 AM
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3. It seems to me
That he is guilty until proven innocent, I don't think so. But I am sure more then half of the US population thinks MJ is guilty.
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Kamika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-24-03 11:11 AM
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4. I agree
Edited on Mon Nov-24-03 11:11 AM by Kamika
It's all fun teasing him about his nose (which shuldn't be fun if we were super PC) but when we start to say he's guilty of horrible crimes before he's sentenced we go pretty low.
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Clovis Sangrail Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-24-03 11:13 AM
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6. that would be nice
but Jose Padilla and all of the people of arab decent who were picked up after 9/11 might disagree.

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onebigbadwulf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-24-03 11:13 AM
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5. Sorry
but in cases of rape or child molestation, doesn't matter who you are, you are stigmatized as guilty until proven innocent.

Anyway, if he can't prove his innocence, it is his fault. He was given a warning shot 10 years ago. He should have done everything in his power to prevent something like this ever again.
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Kamika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-24-03 11:15 AM
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7. Are you kidding?
So if I would accuse you of rape YOU would have to prove you're innocent??
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THUNDER HANDS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-24-03 11:17 AM
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8. not his innocence
But even if he were just charged, he'd have to do substantial work to rebuild his reputation.
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Jen72 Donating Member (847 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-24-03 12:21 PM
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11. In a rape case, the victim has to prove she/he is telling the truth.
If you accused someone of rape, you would have to endure a humiliated court case to prove you are telling the truth, your sex life with be brought out in detail, you will be publically accused of lying, really want sex, of being confused.


If the victim loses the case, for insufficent evidence does that mean the rape never took place. Sex crimes are for more complicated than that and hard to prove in most circumstances, that does not mean it doesn't happen, but I does explain why so many sex crimes go unreported.
If we say the accused it innocent until proven guilty, does that make
the accuser a lier until proven to be telling the truth. If MJ is innocent, then a twelve year old boy will be lying in what will be one of the biggest trials in history.

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Screaming Lord Byron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-24-03 11:18 AM
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9. OK, I admit it. I've commented on Distraction Jackson recently at DU
but now, I have lost all interest whatsoever. The whole thing is just pathetic. This (I hope) will be my last word on this whole tawdry affair.
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-24-03 11:34 AM
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10. Hey,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Where is the glove? Is that a kid glove or a kidd glove?
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