So, my sister likes well done filet mignon. Is that a crime?

[Rabrrrrrr]

It just seems that it should be.

I just thought of that watching Emeril braise a roast, and then I remembered the boiled meats of my youth (and which people still boil, such as, for instance, my sister) which then reminded me that she likes to go out to eat and order filet mignon ("Because it's so delicious!") and orders it well done.

That's wrong on two levels: "I like it because it's delicious" and "I like it well done".

[Montauk6]

1. Call in the Feds only if she reaches for the ketchup.

[StaggerLee]

3. heh

:hi:

[Rabrrrrrr]

6. Oh, sweet God, I forgot to mention that! Yes, ketchup on all meat.

:shudder:

[sakabatou]

37. Ketchup is only good on certain things...

Filet Mignon isn't one of them.

[AngryAmish]

44. Ketchup on hotdogs????

Gross. One should not put ketchup on hotdogs after the age of ten.

Mustard is the condiment of choice for hotdogs, among other things.

Ketchup is for fries.

[kick-ass-bob]

46. If there is no chili for a hot dog, I must confess, I will use ketchup.

Ketchup, mustard, onion, but I much prefer chili.

[sakabatou]

54. I use a combo of mustard and ketchup.

[ET Awful]

22. Hell, I won't even put ketchup on fries.

I use ketchup maybe 3 times a year :P

[Shell Beau]

25. But ketchup is yummy!!

x( Especially on fries, pot roast, and meat loaf!






:7

[ET Awful]

31. I like my fries with just salt, my pot roast with just the juices from the

roast and although I agree on the meatloaf, I very, very rarely eat meatloaf, so it's moot.

:P

I do, on very rare occasion have ketchup on fries if the mood strikes me, and also on very rare occasion put it on a burger (but I prefer using barbecue sauce on my burgers).

[kick-ass-bob]

43. I like barbecue sauce on fries instead of ketchup.

If I have anything at all on them.

[Bridget Burke]

55. Mayo on fries!

Chipotle mayo if you like them spicy.

[kick-ass-bob]

58. I'm not much of a mayo person either. Actually, condiments in general.

I guess, if I like the flavor of a food, I will eat that food and not have anything else on it. If I don't like the food unless there is something on it, then I just don't eat that food.

:shrug:

[StaggerLee]

2. should be

she may as well put ketchup on it while she's at it.

[Rabrrrrrr]

9. And that she does. I forgot to mention the ketchup.

[StaggerLee]

18. I normally don't condone the idea of reeducation camps

But in this case...

for the good of the motherland.

:)

[Kali]

36. are you serious?

ketchup on filet? Oh my god...why bother? why spend the money? order a patty...oh my god!

and well done - I can possibly forgive that, but ketchup? off to the camps!

edit ot correct many typos due to overemotional state caused by thought of meat abuse

[Rabrrrrrr]

39. It drives me crazy

Prime Rib - she wants ketchup.
Steak - ketchup.
Ham - ketchup.

I made a very pricey and incredibly good ham for dinner, from a local butcher it's a ham that is full of flavor, not salty, and remains moist as the ocean, and I made a wondrous and amazing gravy, and of course, as always, her first question - "Where's the ketchup?"

:grr:

Thankfully, I don't keep ketchup, only barbeque sauce.

[Kali]

60. no no no

ham needs nothing, although I can accept mustard.

Ketchup goes on burgers, if you must, and meat loaf of course - and I can eat it with too thick, starchy steak-type fries. Oh and believe it or not salmon patties.

In my opinion most good meat neeeds nothing but salt, maybe a touch of pepper and/or garlic. Even good bbq can skip the sauce! Although its ok too. And of course gravies made from the drippings - after all that is PART of the meat, right?

[Shell Beau]

4. I like mine done. Not well done, but not pinkish!

I guess that is well done though. :shrug: Maybe one day we will learn. And I also use A1 and my husband thinks that is also a crime.

[kick-ass-bob]

10. !!

It is a crime.

Gawd, I hate that stuff. It's a half step up from ketchup.

:D

[Shell Beau]

12. Ketchup is good on steak too!

:yoiks:




Really though! A1 is better though!

[kick-ass-bob]

16. real steak juices are the best.

Not the artificial high blood pressure inducing crap they call a steak sauce.


:bounce:

[Shell Beau]

21. A1 is good to eat. It isn't bad at all for you. It is low in sodium

(I think, I could be totally wrong here) It was one of the few sauces I could eat when I was eating healthy (which didn't last long). So there :P

[kick-ass-bob]

27. There are 280 mg of sodium per Tbsp in A1 Steak Sauce.

That is 12% of the RDA. 8 Tbsp, and you shouldn't have any more salt for the rest of the day. :P

It's actually worse than ketchup sodium-wise (190 mg) :o

[Rabrrrrrr]

28. That's more sodium than salt has, isn't it?

WOW!

[kick-ass-bob]

32. no, I don't think so...

I think the RDA of sodium per day = 1 table (or tea?)* spoon of salt per day.

* I know that's a big difference, I just can't remember which it is.

[Shell Beau]

47. Ok, so I said I may be wrong about that one, but it was

allowed on my healthy plan. Now teryaki sauce has mega sodium in it!! :o

[kick-ass-bob]

50. holy crap yes! Lemme find it....

WHOA!!!!! :wow:
http://www.nutritiondata.com/facts-001-02s00tl.html

http://www.nutritiondata.com/nf.php?q=B00001-01c30HB

[Shell Beau]

51. See anything sounds healthy compared to that!

:o

[kick-ass-bob]

52. and then there is soy sauce:

http://www.nutritiondata.com/facts-B00001-01c218p.html

[Shell Beau]

53. That is why I get so thirsty when I eat Asian food.

Good thing I don't really eat it often. :o

[Rabrrrrrr]

13. I kind of like A1 sauce.

But not on a good, tender, delicious cut of meat.

It's good on a nice, dry roast; or a lesser cut steak.

I do like the taste of A1.

[ET Awful]

20. Emeril's steak sauce kicks A1's ass.

Very tasty even if you put it on a good cut of meat, but in a very thin layer. It really brings out the flavor :9

[ET Awful]

17. Make mine medium to medium-well.

Whether I use any steak sauce depends entirely on how the steak is seasoned and prepared.

[Arkansas Granny]

48. I'm with you. I can handle a little pink, but I won't eat anything

that bleeds on my plate. I may be carnivorous, but I don't eat raw meat.

[xmas74]

5. My parents would have smacked me in the face

if I ordered it well done.
I do have a cousin who will purchase a few at the store, fry them in lard on the stove and them smother them in A1 and that Heinz sauce. Now that is a true crime!

[Loonman]

7. Football leather

Is what well-done meat tastes like to me.

[kick-ass-bob]

8. my wife won't eat it because she 1. doesn't like pink and 2.

doesn't believe that you should do that to filet mignon.

She had it once, not realizing that is how it is cooked - and asked for it to be cooked more.
The waiter said, well, I guess we can throw it on the grill or something, but that is how it comes best.


She never got it again.

[RebelOne]

11. Yes, it's definitely a crime.

I am a vegetarian, but during my meat-eating days, my steaks had to be still mooing. Any well-done meat is tasteless.

[matcom]

14. just shoot her

forget about the prosecution. waste of time :D

[EwokMyWeewok]

15. .

i think it should be criminalized. i mean when you take expensive meat and do that youre going to end up with cheaper meat. filet mignon should be no more than medium. i order it medium rare.

and yes ketchup is an abomination

[Rabrrrrrr]

19. Yep. It's like buying a diamond and having it chrome plated.

And welcome to DU! :hi:

[EwokMyWeewok]

30. .

thanks! ive been getting a lot of hellos.

[Left Is Write]

23. If it's not, it should be.

Well done filet mignon seems like a waste of a decent piece of meat.

[RockaFowler]

24. My husband likes it well done, too

I hate it. I think Filets should be at least somewhat pink. I have to put his on and then wait at least 5 minutes before I put mine on the grill. It makes for difficult meal prep.

[warrens]

26. Restaurants really do have a "well-done" bowl

Where they keep the skankiest cuts of meat just for people like your sister.

[KamaAina]

29. Busted! You were watching Emeril!

Rabrrrrrr was watching Em-e-ril! Rabrrrrrr was watching Em-e-ril! Neener neener neener! :-)

Dare I ask what's next?



?? :scared:

[BikeWriter]

33. AARRGGHH! Well done steak is a sacrilege!

[Initech]

34. Ugh, anything over medium-rare is overcooked!

:puke:

[Rabrrrrrr]

35. What kills me is that, okay, she likes her meat well done - it's wrong,

but I can live with it. She doesn't like the look of the "blood" - that, too, is wrong, but we won't go into that.

So, fine, she likes well done - but then why waste all the money for a good cut of meat?

If yer gonna eat it well done, get something that will taste good when well done, like an oxtail or shin. Why spend money on something just to ruin it? Would she buy a Lexus just to take grass clippings to the dump? No, of course not.

So why spend $20 on something that you're gonna have prepared until it tastes like something you could get for $5?

Or why not spend the $20 on a shrimp dinner, or a pork tenderloin?

[kick-ass-bob]

41. that's exactly what I was thinking.

Just get any ol steak and burn it - they all taste (just about) the same at that point.

And pass the A1.

:7

[Rabrrrrrr]

45. If someone served me a well done steak, I would HOPE that they served

A1 with it, so that at least I'd have some moisture to help chew the damn thing.

:-)

[SOteric]

38. Why not

just order a bacon-wrapped charcoal briquette?

[Rabrrrrrr]

42. She doesn't like bacon unless it's so crispy it explodes when one bites

into it.

"Because it will kill you - IT WILL KILL YOU! - unless it's cooked thoroughly!", so she believes. And we all can tell from this thread what she thinks "cooked thoroughly" means.

[GOPisEvil]

56. !!

:spray::rofl::thumbsup:

[Taverner]

40. Ugh

Might as well just douse it in gasoline

Now Medium Well is not a crime, but Well Done....

[tjwmason]

49. Not merely a crime

But an argument in favour of capital punishment.

Not that I have strong opinions on the subject.

[Orsino]

57. Not a crime.

I prefer it medium-well or well-done myself. And filet's the only steak I still eat.

[China_cat]

59. Aaaaaaaaaaack

Lay it next to the stove till it's almost warm and then bring it to me.

[supernova]

61. Quelle Horreur!

Je ne comprend pas "well done" pour le filet mignon. Ma favorite, c'est "rare."

[neweurope]

83. "bleue" ;)

--------------------

Remember Fallujah

Bush to The Hague!

[Redstone]

62. Oh, Christ. Another one of those "RARE IS THE ONLY WAY

TO EAT STEAK" bores.

Don't tell other people how they should eat. Do you appreciate it when someone else pontificates about how the way you like YOUR food prepared is wrong?

Redstone

(Edited for spelling.)

[GOPisEvil]

65. It doesn't have to be rare.

Medium will do just fine. ;)

[Redstone]

66. Or whatever the person who is actually EATING it wants.

Not what you think. Right?

Redstone

[GOPisEvil]

68. Yes, I agree.

You can have it any way you like it. It just seems like a waste of a good cut of meat to cook it well-done. But, to each their own.

[Redstone]

70. One of the things I try VERY hard to teach my kids is:

Never make fun of what other people like to eat, no matter how strange it may seem to you, because there's probably something YOU like that THEY will think is equally strange. And do you want them to tell you about how horrible it is that you like that particular thing?

Redstone

[GOPisEvil]

80. My parents taught me the same way.

In Rabrrrrrr's case, I would point out my opinion and why I thought that way, that I thought it was a waste of money. But, in the end, it's all her choice.

[supernova]

67. Rare IS the only way

to eat Filet Mignon, Redstone.

I'm a fundamentalist about this!

If you want to eat well done, might as well fix Salisbury steak.

[Rabrrrrrr]

72. It's not about what's "proper", it's about what makes no sense.

What's the point of taking one of the most tender of all steaks and then taking it to well done? The whole charm of a filet mignon is that you can cut it with a butterknife, or even a spoon with a really nice cut.

So that;'s the whole reason.

And then to cook it well done, and make it leathery and take out all the tenderness doesn't make sense.

If one wants a well done steak, then go with a tastier, fuller flavored cut (chuck steak; maybe a hanger, or a shoulder cut) that will handle the extra cooking, and that will cost about a third of the filet, and in the end taste better, at well done, than the filet.

Filet mignon, between cooked properly and cooked well done, is an entirely different piece of meat.

Would you cringe if someone you bought a diamond for had it chrome plated? Would you cringe if someone bought a Van Gogh and repainted it? Would you cringe if someone bought a high powered race car, and then tore off the trunk to put in a pickup bed so they could haul stones? I sure would. And that's what cooking a filet mignon to well done is like.

[Redstone]

73. But that's how she wants HER beef cooked. I cringe when my son

puts ketchup on chicken, which I would never do, but if he wants to, I don't criticize it - it's none of my business. I'm not eating it, after all; he is.

Tedstone

[Rabrrrrrr]

75. Well, I don't criticize her to her face, no

But I needed to vent it here.

But it also a sympton of my sister's lack of culinary, uh, education.

One well done $20 filet mignon lacking bacon, butterflied so it can be well done, and smothered in ketchup coming right up!

Of course people can eat food however they want, and everyone's taste buds are different as well... but alas, I think she is enamored with the idea of being able to say that she eats filet mignon when she's out, as opposed to really understanding what it is that she's doing.

[Redstone]

76. Your last paragraph: That, I understand. A bit of a snit about people

who order / eat specific foods not because they like them, but because they think there's some sort of status attached to eating them...I'm with you on that.

And it's certainly a subject worth venting about here in the Lounge. My older son's mother would consume the most vile assemblage imaginable when we'd go out to dinner, as long as it was called "baked stuffed shrimp." (Though maybe she knew that it revolted me to be across the table from shrimp, since I'm allergic to shellfish. That would explain a lot, wouldn't it?)

We're on the same page here, at last. Consider me to be on your side on this one, now that I understand the basis for your ventitation.

Redstone

[supernova]

74. Amen, brother Rabrrrrrr!

Would you cringe if someone you bought a diamond for had it chrome plated? Would you cringe if someone bought a Van Gogh and repainted it? Would you cringe if someone bought a high powered race car, and then tore off the trunk to put in a pickup bed so they could haul stones? I sure would. And that's what cooking a filet mignon to well done is like.

:applause:

[lazarus]

84. Not only that

But guess how it gets cooked well done?

I used to work in a steak house. Here's what we'd have to do to get it well done in a reasonable amount of time. First, take off the bacon. Unroll it. Drop it in the fryer for a couple of minutes. Then slap it on the hottest part of the grill for a while, still unrolled and split open. Flip a few times, this will take a while. Finally, put it back together, and finish it off like it's a normal piece of filet mignon.

Takes about ten minutes, while cooking it to well done without frying it would take 20-30 minutes. Compare to 2-3 minutes for rare (depending on your grill temp).

I've never understood ruining a perfectly good piece of meat like that. It's like boiling a cake. Yeah, you can do it, but why?

[El Fuego]

63. YES IT IS A CRIME!

The horror-- what a waste!!!!

Why bother paying for filet mignon if you're going to destroy it?

[GoddessOfGuinness]

64. "Brand it and bring it."

That was my father's motto.

[Floogeldy]

69. Even when you order it well done . . .

. . . it is still gonna have some pink in the middle.

[pitohui]

71. indeed it is a crime

<head in hands>

[jpgray]

77. No

Different cuts of meat taste different from one another, doneness aside. Filet mignon well done doesn't taste the same as a well done sirloin. You like what you like, and if you want to pay for it, who gives a shit what the doneness police have to say? In the view of someone else you've "ruined" the meat, but if you enjoy it, so what?

[lakemonster11]

81. Exactly.

I love filet mignon. I hate underdone meat. It DOES NOT TASTE GOOD to me unless it's at least medium well. I would rather eat a steak with no pink at all than eat one rare. I'm not "ruining" a cut of meat by having it prepared the way I like it. And, trust me, well-done filet mignon is plenty tender. :eyes:

If someone forced me to eat underdone meat all the time, I would become a vegetarian. I'm pretty damn close anyway.

[samplegirl]

78. What a waste

of mouthwatering juicy beef.

[BigMcLargehuge]

79. Mmmmmm Hockey puck with bernaise

[Maat]

82. That is SO wrong!

If I'm going to go for that steakie, it has to be ... still mooing! Actually, cooked a slight bit more than that ... but not much.