Newsflash from GD: Feminism has caused women to be alone!

[WindRavenX]

:banghead: :banghead:

AND women NEED men!

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Reading this shit is so...sad. To see such neanderthal bile being spewed about on feminism is just...sad.

And now I'm off to get coffee and a movie with my SO-- not because I need him, but because I chose to. :hi:

[DS1]

1. No, that's just your liberal education making you THINK you chose to

;-)

[WindRavenX]

3. ooo like the Matrix

Far out dood :smoke:

[StellaBlue]

2. no

The majority of men not being able to handle women demanding to be treated as full members of the human race has caused women to be alone.

[WindRavenX]

4. ^^ROCK

:thumbsup:

[Ellen Forradalom]

8. You know what the only thing

those guys can handle is. They're busy handling it in front of a video while the women are alone.

[StellaBlue]

13. bwhahahaha

[CanuckAmok]

19. Potato, po-tah-to, just so long as we're all dysfunctional!

:toast:

[Starbucks Anarchist]

5. But isn't that true?

:hide:

[Deja Q]

6. And MEN need WOMEN too. It's symbiosis.

Just how long would YOU go with a "properly shaped" piece of plastic anyway? :shrug:

[Ellen Forradalom]

9. Interdependence!

I'm loving it!

[WindRavenX]

10. nobody "needs" each other

It diminished free will. You need companionship-- not necessarily of the opposite gender.

Companionship isn't just about sex either...

[khashka]

16. That's one of the great things about feminism

Sure no man or woman is an island - but what you "need" is to be strong and self-reliant and a society that allows and promotes that. Then you can truly choose to be with someone - as friends, lovers, spouses, whatever.

Khash.

[Xipe Totec]

27. I disagree. We all need each other.

Desperately, even.

You may not be religious, but the following sentiment applies nonetheless:

"When we take a survey of nature, we view man in his infancy more helpless and indigent than the brute creation; he lies languishing for days, months and years, totally incapable of providing sustenance for himself, or guarding against the attack of wild beasts of the field, or sheltering himself from the inclemencies of the weather.

It might have pleased the great Creator of heaven and earth to have made man independent of all other beings; but, as dependence is one of the strongest bonds of society, mankind were made dependent upon each other for protection and security, as they thereby enjoy better opportunities of fulfilling the duties of reciprocal love and friendship. Thus was man formed for social and active life; the noblest part of the work of God; and he that will so demean himself as not to be endeavoring to add to the common stock of knowledge and understanding, may be deemed a drone in the hive of nature, a useless member of society..."

And let us remember that the first being that gave us comfort, nourishment, and shelter was a female; our mothers. So, yes, I acknowledge that I need and seek the comfort and companionship of other human beings. Especially those of a female persuasion.

Independence be damned.

[Porcupine]

33. "No person eats by their own hands alone":

to paraphrase Kim Stanley Robinson from "The Years of Rice and Salt"

We all need other people. I really desperately need a whole list of people to provide services for me. I in turn provide desperately needed or desired services for many people.

What we need rather than feminism is compassion. "Feminism" has come to mean so much more that wanting my daughters to have rights, respect and opportunities. Some of what it now means to people is ugly and unsupportable.

No I will not argue about what. No time for a flamewar.

[WindRavenX]

34. Like hell we don't need feminism

Women are still second class citizens. If you don't think so, man, you need to wake up.

[Radical Activist]

7. Who let you out of the kitchen?

Why isn't your father controlling you? Maybe someone should teach your SO to be a man and reign you in! :sarcasm:
So what's new anyway?

[WindRavenX]

11. DUDE! PM ME!!

I gotta run, but I saw your name! I missed you!! :)

[KittyWampus]

12. I couldn't believe those 2 DU'ers were posting that crap here

raising kids isn't "work".

Oy!

[salin]

15. for some reason, I am thinking that I am glad I missed

the "inspiration" for this thread.

[Karenina]

20. Be glad you did.

[salin]

23. like a moth to fire...

I had to seek it out. UGH. I had already read the news item, so I had skipped the thread earlier.

You would think, from some responders, that we were back in 1979 and there was a national push for the ERA and folks were feeling threatened, and thus reacting in extreme ways (like there were only going to be unisex public bathrooms if the ERA was passed - and that was somehow scary and effective for some folks). Geez.

[Karenina]

25. Where I live we HAVE unisex bathrooms.

It is NOT a problem. One must often descend a flight of stairs. It is NOT a problem.

[WindRavenX]

29. unisex bathrooms are cool

They don't bother me at all. They all have stalls so everyone has their privacy :shrug:

[salin]

31. it was a real "fear point" in the ERA fight in the late 70s.

That and women serving in the military in combat. Funny how those "fear buttons" are nearly irrelevant now.

[Lavender Brown]

22. Seriously

That was some of the most absurd, insulting stuff I've seen in GD. :puke:

[WindRavenX]

28. I know!!!

I don't even want my own kids-- I plan on adopting-- but jesus christ on a CRACKER don't EVER tell me that raising kids isn't a job!

I swear to god that's one of the most ridiculous things I've ever seen. And the claim that raising children is a hobby? Lordy.

[sendero]

44. Let's dump them..

... at the mall with a couple 2 year olds - they'll be crying for momma in less than an hour :)

[Telly Savalas]

45. Can someone provide a link to point me in their direction...

such that I may gently explain to whoever posted that comment that it is one of the dumbest fucking things ever to be put on the internet.

[khashka]

14. A woman needs a man like a fish needs a bicycle

But sometimes they like spending time with us :)


I really can't understand why people aren't feminists. Every man has a sister, mother, daughter or wife - doesn't he want the people he loves to be treated fairly? And women - surely they want to be treated fairly.

I'm a feminist for the same reason I'm anti-racist - pure self interest. If they are denied the opportunity to contribute to society, then I am denied the opportunity of appreciating or benefiting from their contributions.

Khash.

[Orsino]

17. Feminism has allowed single women to be noticed. n/t

[tjdee]

18. Note to self: Don't ever say what you think feminism has done to men.

:hide:

Eh, I'm bored, but I don't feel like starting a flamewar.

Women really don't need men at all, that's the problem.

[Karenina]

24. I don't "need" them...

I DO like and love them. And having raised 2 to adulthood, I carry on with dear friends scarcely older than my "babies" who come around just to hang out and discuss our common interests, create artwork or teach me how to keep up with the technology. They respect my experience, confide in me about their relationships, ask me about my "take" and won't leave ME alone... For which I am thankful as they truly decorate my life. ;-)

There are so many ways to relate intimately...

[xmas74]

21. I couldn't stay out of that one.

Which one will get the pizza tonight?
Any bets?

[wildeyed]

26. I long ago gave up on participating in threads about sexism

on the DU. I always end up with high blood pressure and a brazilion people on ignore when I do. But I hope you are over there fighting the good fight :patriot:

[kitkatrose]

30. And because my blood pressure was too low

I went to find the silly thread. :banghead: :banghead: :nuke: That was stupid; I don't know why I even look for the damn things anymore.

[meow2u3]

32. Better alone than in bad company

I know firsthand. I have had my share of boyfriends, and I swore off relationships 13 years ago. I've had it with insecure, immature men who think women have to look like lesser beings to make these men-children feel better.

[WindRavenX]

35. GOOD FUCKING GRIEF:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x86203#86248

[Ellen Forradalom]

36. Isn't the basis for that in English common law?

That a child born during a man's marriage is considered "his"?

[WindRavenX]

39. oh, I'm not talking about *that* debate

There's a particular troll- err- poster, who is a walking pile of sexism.

[ScreamingMeemie]

37. And I'm thinking of changing "hobbies" and getting rid of my kids.

Maybe woodworking of some sort. :hi:

[Renew Deal]

38. Women do need men.

C'mon, you know you can't resist me. :loveya:

[Ladyhawk]

42. Consider yourself resisted.

;)

[Darth_Kitten]

40. You GO girl.......

:evilgrin:

Alone is not necessarily lonely.

Thing I never got is why do they pretend to CARE whether or not feminists get men? :shrug:

[alarimer]

41. So THAT'S my problem!

I had no idea. I feel so much better now. :sarcasm:

[Ladyhawk]

43. Good Lord...just when you thought it was safe to go back into GD...

*insert Jaws music*

Da-dum

Da-dum-da

Da-dum-da-dum

Da-dum-da-dum-da-dum-da-dum-da-dum!!!!!