Monogamy Isn't Natural

[Jack_Dawson]

I agree with Scarlett.

http://www.cinematical.com/2006/01/10/scarlett-doesnt-believe-in-monogamy-celebrities-gone-wild/

I agree with pretty much anything Scarlett says or does. Lost in Translation is one of the finest films of our time. In Good Company wasn't, but she was in it so it was a great film.

:beer:

[skygazer]

1. Neither is wearing clothing

Just sayin'.

[Oeditpus Rex]

5. An excellent point!

I move we all get nekkid and polygamous immediately.

[skygazer]

7. Here, have another one

:spank:

[rbnyc]

19. I was gonna say...

...neither are pants!

The thing about being human is we make choices.

[Jamastiene]

23. We are all born naked, aren't we?

It stands to reason. :thumbsup:

[radwriter0555]

65. Wearing clothing is VERY natural when it's 32 degrees outside the cave

I'm just sayin'....

It gets ccccccccccold when we have no fur!

[Shine]

2. Well, this should be interesting....

:popcorn:

[Jack_Dawson]

8. LOL

But seriously. It isn't!

[Shine]

13. Hell, what's "natural" mean, anyway?

Don't we all just make it up, collectively speaking, based on social mores of the time? :shrug:

[joeybee12]

3. What got me was what she said about her co-star--gossipy and likes

shoes and said it was like having a girlfriend on the set.

Think she just outed him?

[Jack_Dawson]

10. He doesn't look that manly...

from what I've seen.

[joeybee12]

32. Well, of course he doesn't--he's British!

Only kidding--boy am I gonna get flamed for that!

He's not a big guy, that's for sure.

[Spider Jerusalem]

4. Not unless you're a swan...

[LisaL]

9. Or a wolf.

[Jack_Dawson]

11. A wolf?

:shrug:

[LisaL]

14. Wolves are monogamous.

They form pair bonds.

[Jack_Dawson]

15. So what happens...

if there are three wolves?

[LisaL]

17. One wolf remains single.

:cry:

[skygazer]

18. That's where the phrase "lone wolf" comes into play

:shrug:

[Jack_Dawson]

34. Wow - the shit I learn on DU

:beer:

[Deja Q]

6. Depends on the species. Also, I value monogamy.

Maybe serial monogamy at worst, but monogamy no less.

Besides, I'm single and desperate. I'd boink any adult human who's willing to take some good with the bad...

[Jack_Dawson]

12. Single and Desperate?

Do you live in Arizona or Alaska or something? :shrug:

[Deja Q]

37. Minnesota...

Some people might dig my body, but it's my Aspie personality that keeps them from wanting a RELATIONSHIP. (hence my desperation.)

[Jack_Dawson]

39. Yur what?

Aspie personality? I know I should know, but I don't know at this juncture.

[Deja Q]

42. I know...

Aspie. Asperger's Syndrome.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asperger's_syndrome

[Kali]

50. I don't get it (or do I?)

Your link:

Wedon't have an article called "Asperger/'s syndrome"

[bloom]

54. IF you follow the link

you get there:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asperger%27s_Syndrome


(he must have an old link)

[zanne]

16. Why is it always men who say that? nt

[LisaL]

20. She is a woman.

:shrug:

[Left Is Write]

21. Jack_Dawson?

Not according to his profile.

[skygazer]

24. Scarlett Johannson

or however you spell her last name. She's the one being quoted.

[Left Is Write]

29. Oh, okay. I only gave a cursory glance to the OP.

I didn't go to the link.

[LisaL]

25. No, Scarlett Johannson. She is the one who said that.

[BuelahWitch]

27. Scarlett Johanson said it originally

Isn't she like 15 or something? :shrug:

But it's a rare case when the female of the species is polygamous...

[LisaL]

28. I think you underestimated her age by about a decade.

[Left Is Write]

30. She's twenty-one.

Edited because I didn't realize she'd passed her 21st birthday.

[Radio_Lady]

66. Told the story about her birthday on "Live with Regis and Kelly"

today. She stayed at her own party until she realized most of the people there were folks she didn't even know.

Strange, but beautiful woman. She knocks my socks off, physically. And I'm an older, heterosexual woman...

Her and Uma Thurman.

In peace,

Radio_Lady

PS. I just realized that when I tell my Orthodox Jewish daughter that I don't want to be buried, I want to be cremated, I have a better reason than that given by Jewish conversatives. (Your "used" body will be reinhabited after the Judgment Day, is the essential reason.)

I told my daughter I want to come back as a tall, blue-eyed blonde. (Not a dumpy, brown eyed, brown-haired brunette. I don't much care for my navel, either...)

I'd like to look like Uma or Scarlett. That's it!

[LaraMN]

22. Quite likely not natural.

But nonetheless commendable and desirable.

[Jamastiene]

26. Hoo, yeah. Time to pull up a seat and go pop open the

microwave. Showtime!

:popcorn:

[redqueen]

31. Maybe not, but it's still desirable.

For some, anyway.

Whatever floats your boat, that's what I say!

Anyone else see Penn & Teller last night? Fookin awesome. :D

[Blue_Tires]

33. Lost in Translation is a great film

but DESPITE of Johannson's performance, not because of it....

[Jack_Dawson]

35. Are you HIGH?

She was PHENOMENAL in that flick. I fell in love. We're getting married, although we haven't officially "met" yet.

[Blue_Tires]

36. lol

all she did was look moody, contemplative and pouty for 2 hours....

Johannson needs to kneel and thank whatever gods she prays to that Bill Murray was gracious and charitible enough to allow her to share screen time with him....because that one role has made her whole career so far...

[Jack_Dawson]

38. You, my friend...

are obviously one of those people who didn't "get it"! Don't worry that movie sailed over a lot of peoples' heads!

JD

[Blue_Tires]

47. what didn't I "get?"

is there some great genius of Johannson that i missed?

[Jack_Dawson]

48. Yes

But it's impossible to articulate. See it again and you'll see what I mean. :toast:

[StellaBlue]

60. I agree

Enjoyed the film, though. She's eye candy. I'm not saying she can't act (that's the only film of hers I've seen) - but she wasn't 'phenomenal' by a long stretch. IMHO. $0.02.

I liked her on the Letterman rerun last night, though. She's very pretty and seems too poised for her age. I think the husky voice and ginormous gazangas help there.

[Nikia]

40. According to a couple of evolutionary bio books on the subject

Monagamy is the best relationship in order to raise children.
For a woman, monagamy might seem ideal, but sometimes mating with someone with better genes on the side while having a primary partner with better resources and inclination to monagamy might be a better strategy. It is best having a primary partner because men will be more supportive of and less hostile those who they think are their own offspring.
For men, being promiscous might seem ideal, but it is only to some extent. Children raised by a single woman or another male who knows the children aren't his are less likely to survive to maturity. Raising his own offspring with his primary partner is a good strategy. Being promiscous on the side isn't a bad strategy.
One arguement for the naturualness of having a primary partner for men is that men of most cultures tend to be attracted to youth. Children actually have a better chance of surviving birth if the mother is older (30s), not younger (teens). A man would not be attracted to teenagers unless he planned to be in it for many years.
These books also gave an arguement for bisexuality in women. Women's reproductive potential is increased by her offspring surviving. For various reasons, a woman might not be able to keep the father of her offspring and be better off by taking a woman as her primary partner who less likely to be hostile to her offspring.
It is all speculation but it does make some sense.

[Jack_Dawson]

44. Very insightful!

If only all responses could have such depth. Seriously very impressive, although your theory seems to assume sex = children when in fact there are ways around that.

[NNadir]

46. Well done. n/t

[Redstone]

41. It works pretty well for me with zero effort, so I'd have to vote for

"natural," at least in my case.

Redstone

[Dukkha]

43. coincidence?

She promotes polygamy and a Woody Allen movie in the same sentence.

*cough* over here Scarlett *cough*
:hi:

[NNadir]

45. It's completely natural for me.

I feel absolutely no instinct to the contrary.

[Jack_Dawson]

55. That's because you're left-brained

Us right-brained people suffer. You scientists are logical and that works well for you.

[Zomby Woof]

49. It is for me

To each their own.

[GirlinContempt]

51. Most of what human beings do isn't natural

Thats part of what defines humanity. We socialize ourselves out of certain biological and 'natural' instincts or impulses. It's also natural to run around naked crapping all over yourself.

[Jack_Dawson]

52. Now that doesn't seem natural...

I don't think I'd want to go there. :beer:

[antigone382]

53. You know what? There's no point debating what's natural.

You can concoct a study to say that anything and everything is natural or unnatural, depending on your bias and preference. I say, to each his or her own. Don't try to define what works for one person (or couple) or for another, because we all have different needs and different desires. I know one couple who are totally satisfied and comfortable with each other, and truly have no desire to be with anyone else; they're best friends with another couple who are swingers. Both couples are happy and satisfied with their arrangements, so why try to elevate one above the other? As long as your chosen arrangement is free of deception, it's fine by me.

However, I would point out that while monogomy may or may not be natural, STD's and pregnancy most certainly are. Whatever lifestyle you choose to lead, you should consider the risks and try to protect yourself and your partner(s).

[u4ic]

59. What an enlightened answer!

:hi:

[antigone382]

64. Why thank you!

I just don't see a point in trying to determine what the "right" way to be is. The right way to be is the way that brings you happiness, provided it brings no one else misery.

Edited: ...well, provided it doesn't willfully bring anyone else misery, since we can't always control whether our actions make others happy or unhappy.

[Ellen Forradalom]

56. It's all monogamy

Whether it's monogamy, serial monogamy or parallel monogamy :-)

[the_spectator]

57. Neither is democracy. Or women's rights.

Or the idea that "all men are created equal." But somehow, they all seem to go together. As un-natural as they are.

[Deja Q]

58. Examples of unnatural things:

1. money
2. condoms
3. sweatshops
4. clothing
5. microwave ovens
6. beastiality (have you ever seen a donkey mount an elephant for example? I'd rather not...)
7. sugar-free pudding (or anything with aspertame in it)
8. guns
9. plastic
10. money

[Laelth]

61. Beastiality not natural?

Ironically, this picture was posted in another lounge thread.



-Laelth

[barb162]

62. neither is driving a car, riding a bike and about a hundred other things

but monogamy is easier

[barb162]

63. but it's easier on spouses and the kids , generally speaking