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GoddessOfGuinness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-10-06 07:47 PM
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Crampon Question
Bionic, or standard?

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Dave Reynolds Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-10-06 08:07 PM
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1. I vote for bionic.
With a name like that, it has to be good.
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GoddessOfGuinness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-10-06 08:29 PM
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8. It sounds like
it'll do your walking for you.
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Oeditpus Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-10-06 08:10 PM
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2. Crampon!
(clap clap)

Crampoff!



(etc.)
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GoddessOfGuinness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-10-06 08:28 PM
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7. Until they invent that
I guess the bionics will have to do. :rofl:
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Left Is Write Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-10-06 08:48 PM
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13. Damn. Here I thought I was being original!
You scooped me.

:rofl:
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Oeditpus Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-10-06 10:01 PM
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21. Dunworry
It'll prolly be the only time all year. :blush:
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-10-06 08:10 PM
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3. Are those meant for Extreme Cavern Exploration?
:hide:
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GoddessOfGuinness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-10-06 08:27 PM
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6. Aye...with exceptionally frigid conditions
:evilgrin:
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skygazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-10-06 08:18 PM
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4. Bionic
The six million dollar crampon.
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GoddessOfGuinness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-10-06 08:40 PM
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9. That's the most absorbant one.
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Elidor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-10-06 08:22 PM
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5. Are you treading on thin ice?
Or thick?
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GoddessOfGuinness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-10-06 08:41 PM
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10. The thicker the better
:woohoo:
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Left Is Write Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-10-06 08:47 PM
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11. Crampon, crampoff
The Cramper™!
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GoddessOfGuinness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-10-06 08:53 PM
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14. That'd come in handy once a month
or so...
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Cobalt Violet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-10-06 08:48 PM
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12. How much vertical ice do you do?
I have a preference for standard. But then again I don't do a lot of vertical ice(and I hate those plastic boots too).

With standard you can still flex your foot.
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GoddessOfGuinness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-10-06 08:58 PM
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15. That's what I was wondering
Edited on Tue Jan-10-06 09:01 PM by GoddessOfGuinness
The bionics look like you would still have to essentially "penguin walk". And I would think that flexibility would be good on vertical, too...to keep your foot from getting stiff.

Ok...It really started as a copycat thread; but when I saw the different types, I was genuinely curious. :hi:
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Cobalt Violet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-10-06 09:12 PM
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16. Umm...
Edited on Tue Jan-10-06 09:21 PM by Cobalt Violet
Flexibilty is not your friend on vertical ice. Rigidity is your friend there. The bionic ones would be better for that.


Here is something I copied and pasted from REI's web site about chosing the right crampon:

Crampons are typically available in 3 styles: hinged, semi-rigid or rigid.




Hinged crampons are best for climbing on snowfields and glaciers. The hinge allows the foot to flex for walking. One of the best things about hinged crampons is that they fit on either plastic boots or leather mountaineering boots with a full shank. With a stiff-enough boot, hinged crampons will even work on vertical ice. If you buy only 1 pair of crampons but want to do a variety of climbing, this is your best bet.


Semi-rigid crampons give more support on occasional vertical ice, such as the sections found on alpine climbs. These versatile crampons can be used for a wide variety of snow and ice climbs. Some have a plate under the forefoot and side rails that run the entire length. Others are hinged with an adjustment that locks the hinge in place. For example, the Grivel 2F crampons flex at the balls of the feet for mobility and comfort, which is helpful for glacier climbing. Add accessory bolts and they're rigid enough for vertical ice climbing.


Rigid crampons are the most technical. They are used primarily on vertical ice. Their stiff structure not only provides support for front-pointing, but also vibrates much less than a hinged construction. For thin or brittle ice this can be a significant advantage. Rigid crampons make glacier walking somewhat awkward, however, because they don't allow your feet to flex for natural striding. They also need to be used with stiff (preferably plastic) boots, as wearing them with flexible boots will eventually cause them to bend and weaken.

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GoddessOfGuinness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-10-06 09:48 PM
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19. Thanks for the info...
I'd probably not do vertical, since I'm a low risk-taking type; but I really would like to visit Alaska and check out some glaciers before they all melt!
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Cobalt Violet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-10-06 09:25 PM
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17. Just because you may want to do some climbing. Copy cat or not.
It's fun up there in the ice.

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seemunkee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-10-06 09:38 PM
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18. Scary as crap though
Never again for me, at least not the vertical stuff.
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Cobalt Violet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-10-06 09:52 PM
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20. I'm not a big fan of vertical ice either.
But I love snowy mountain trails. They ice up so I like to use just strap on crampons that can be worn on any boot. I try to get out there every week end.
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