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maveric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-10-06 09:10 PM
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I'm trying buy software online and I get this message.
"We do not accept email accounts from free email services such as hotmail.com, yahoo.com, etc"

Its the only e-mail account I have. Do I have to find an e-mail servive that I have to pay for to get this software?
Why is this done?
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Daisy Adair Donating Member (128 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-10-06 09:12 PM
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1. Because free accounts offer anonymity that ISP or pay accounts don't.
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maveric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-10-06 09:14 PM
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4. Meaning?
Ok. Where do I find a pay e-mail account, that will cost me money, just to download a program that I need to convert video to an iPod format.
Thats all I want to do! This is so damn frustrating!
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datasuspect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-10-06 09:16 PM
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5. you don't have to pay for anything
you just fool their machine with one a non-recognizable web-based email address.
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Daisy Adair Donating Member (128 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-10-06 09:18 PM
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7. Sorry. Who is your internet service thru? You should have one w/them.
I am not sure of others...
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datasuspect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-10-06 09:19 PM
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8. try this
these used to fly under the radar:

http://suntimesmail.com/e/spam.htm
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datasuspect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-10-06 09:13 PM
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2. find a no-name web-based email account
the chicago suntimes used to have at least 5 or 6 @whatever.com emails you could use.

i used these to subvert a lot of shit like that.

i think @gmail.com is still new enough to not get caught either.
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no name no slogan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-10-06 09:14 PM
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3. Also, they're notoriously used for spamming
Check with your ISP-- you may have an email account as part of your internet access.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-10-06 09:18 PM
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6. You might just want to look around for an 800# and call them.
I did that often because I didn't trust the internet(s) for a long time. Not as convenient, but you'll get your software ordered just about as quickly.
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-10-06 09:23 PM
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9. how did you get a DU account?
It requires the same thing that you stated
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maveric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-10-06 09:37 PM
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12. That was 4 years ago and I have no idea how I did it.
The only other e-mail I have is Outlook express and I get error messages about POP server error.
WTF is that?
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-10-06 09:29 PM
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10. It's done to keep out spammers and shitkickers and hackers.
Sorry about that, but they want to see some legitimacy. It's just good business. although YOU may be an upstanding citizen, many prople who "live on" throwaway accounts are not.

I sympathise with it causing you a problem, but they really have to have that rule.

Don't you get a "legitimate" email address as part of signing up with yout ISP?

Redstone
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datasuspect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-10-06 09:35 PM
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11. spammers and other malcontents can't sign up with ISPs?
shit i've had hotmail accounts for more than 10 years.

don't web-based accounts use a server the same way a "legitimate" email address does?
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-10-06 09:38 PM
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13. Wait a minute. If you don't have an ISP, where does your
Internet access come from? Are you at all conversant with Internet technology? You HAVE to have an ISP, or your'e NOT connected to the Internet...

Redstone
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datasuspect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-10-06 09:41 PM
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14. i PERSONALLY don't need one
Edited on Tue Jan-10-06 09:41 PM by datasuspect
but the computer i'm using does.

and these can be at libraries, jobs, other people's houses, ghosted bandwidth from machines in your neighborhood . . .
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-10-06 09:45 PM
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15. Well, OK, there it is! If you were selling software and taking a credit
card for payment, would you feel safe in selling to someone who has the electronic version of "no certain address?"

These people are in business to get paid for their products, you know. I don't blame them for that policy. Not at all.

Redstone
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datasuspect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-10-06 09:46 PM
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16. the credit card verifier
makes sure of that.

if the zip you provide doesn't match what's on file with your account, it'll deny the transaction.

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maveric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-10-06 09:48 PM
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17. OK I'm an idiot! I cant find any other e-mail address on my PC.
All I want to do is to be able to load videos , that I download, to my fucking iPod! I'm just finding out now that you cant just do that. The files have to be converted and you need to buy software for that.
That asshole at Best Buy lied to me when he told me that I could load any video that I download, right on to the iPod.
Fuck it! I'm packing this POS up and returning it.
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-10-06 09:59 PM
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20. Um, maveric? You need to take a basic course about how the Internet
works. I think you'd come out of that course much heppier and much wiser.

Thee are a couple of items of knowledge that you're missing here about how the Internet works, and you'd be well advised (and happier afterward) if you went to a class or two.

Redstone
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maveric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-10-06 10:01 PM
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21. I ran a search on my PC with my ISP name. It came up empty.
If I can find that, I'll be able to find that other e-mail address. I have Windows XP.
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-10-06 10:07 PM
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23. I can't help you with that. Others here may be able to.
But the first thing to look for is who's getting from $9.95 to $42.95 of your money every month. THAT company is your ISP. That's who connects the computer on your dessk with DU and the rest of the Internet.

Hey, anyone else here who can help Maveric out? I HAVE to go to bed. And now.

REdstone
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-10-06 09:49 PM
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18. But peopleare less likely to disappear from "legitimate" email
accounts, then thay are to dump a "throwaway" account and dissipear.

You know it, I know, it, and the software vendors know it.

And since you know it, may be you shouldn't be bitching about the software vendors, since you understand their position.

Redsone
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Cobalt Violet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-10-06 09:57 PM
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19. Are you on dial up or Dsl or cable?
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maveric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-10-06 10:02 PM
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22. Cable. Cox@home. Did a hard drive search and that didnt come up at all.
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Cobalt Violet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-10-06 10:10 PM
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24. Maybe you can set up an email account with them.
YOu may already have one with them and not know it because you don't really use it. It would be worth it to check it out as it would be a premium email address. Most of the time the people you pay your internet bill to provide an email address.
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Cobalt Violet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-10-06 10:12 PM
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25.  I meant to add :
It may not come up on your hard drive. You may have to contact them.
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maveric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-10-06 11:05 PM
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26. I just did and they gave me the info I needed.
I thank you all very much for your patience with my ignorance.
All I want to do is load video to my iPod. The salesman told me that all you have to do is download and send to iPod.
Its not that easy. All files have to be converted and the software costs money to do so.

Never listen to a Best Buy Salesperson.
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elvisbear Donating Member (545 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-10-06 11:37 PM
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27. Try downloading the free Videora iPod converter.
http://www.videora.com/en-us/Converter/iPod/

I have used this program and it works very well.
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maveric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-10-06 11:38 PM
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28. Did you have to buy Videora?
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elvisbear Donating Member (545 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-10-06 11:43 PM
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29. No, it's absolutely free.
Edited on Tue Jan-10-06 11:45 PM by elvisbear
You can make a donation if you can afford it.
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