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sasquatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-10-06 11:40 PM
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Poll question: What was the worst generation?
I say it was the baby boomers. Those SOB's where a bunch of greedy fucks who've given us religious fundamentalism, Reagan twice and Bush twice. It's always "I got mine so fuck everyone else". Many boomers don't care about what shape the world is when they give to their children or grandchildren, just as long as they got there's.
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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-10-06 11:47 PM
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1. I think it was "the greatest generation"
that gave us GW Bush. Demographically Bush won among men over 65. For boomers it was a dead heat. I bet the same is true of Reagan and Nixon. The only reason so many boomers are screwed up is because they never became hippies but instead bought into the conservatism and greed of their stodgy "greatest generation" parents.
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sasquatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-10-06 11:54 PM
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3. The Greatest generation were a lot better than the Boomers
GWB is a Boomer himself. The hippies were worthless piece of shit Libertarians themselves so it was a lost cause to begin with.
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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-11-06 12:23 AM
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15. and, um, that proves my point
a boomer raised by a WWII vet. Greatest generation apparently were not very good parents, AND they voted for Bush, instead of Kerry - the hippie war protester. And hippies were not libertarians, except socially, they were communists (in the commune sense, not the Soviet one). Hippies were the best ever. It's too bad the Arab/Reagan backlash washed them away.
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-11-06 12:25 AM
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17. You are assuming that parents are responsible for their offsprings actions
The boomers rebelled against their parents and then ended up giving the world W. How can you blame the same parents that they weren't listening to?
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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-11-06 12:35 AM
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22. some of the boomers rebelled against their parents
W was certainly never a hippie, although he did incorporate drug use into his long adolescence.

But I repeat, it was not the boomers who gave us W, even though he is a boomer, and so are Gore and Clinton and Kerry and Edwards. It was voters in the so-called Greatest Generation which were the demographic which either gave him the victory or made it close enough to steal. Also with the assistance of a certain Ralph mofoing Nader, who, I believe is part of the "greatest" generation.

Some of the boomers rebelled and became hippies, others conformed and became yuppies. Doubtless some hippies sold out as well, to one degree or another, but not as many as the media claims, and doubtless some "hippies" were hinos (hippies in name only) as they were not sincere about the ideals of the 60s, but were rather just glomming onto the latest trend in order to look cool.
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-10-06 11:49 PM
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2. This should be good
:popcorn:
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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-10-06 11:55 PM
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4. Pass the popcorn....
:popcorn:
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SofaKingLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-10-06 11:56 PM
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5. I want some too!
:popcorn:
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sasquatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-11-06 12:12 AM
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11. I might need some too
:popcorn:
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Left_Winger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-11-06 07:46 AM
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71. Yes, some popcorn would be nice...
:popcorn: ...with lots of butter.
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TheBaldyMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-10-06 11:57 PM
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6. every generation deserves praise and scorn
There was a poll on DU with a breakdown of age, that would give the lie to any one generation being the baddest one. I suspect that a similar breakdown on freerepublic would reflect the same demographic.

What I'm trying to say is you get assholes and angels everywhere.
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-10-06 11:58 PM
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7. No way. Everyone is cool except people born in 1983
People born in 1983 are total douchebags
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TheBaldyMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-11-06 12:21 AM
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13. If you'd said everyone born after '83 I'd agree with you.
Edited on Wed Jan-11-06 12:21 AM by TheBaldyMan
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-11-06 12:22 AM
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14. No. 1983 and only 1983
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TheBaldyMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-11-06 12:32 AM
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18. I'll put your answer down to the impetuosity of youth n/t
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-11-06 12:35 AM
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21. Impetuous like Iron Mike Tyson!
And his words of wisdom "My style is impetuous. My defense is impregnable, and I'm just ferocious. I want your heart. I want to eat his children. Praise be to Allah!"
"My main objective is to be professional but to kill him."
"I want to rip out his heart and feed it to him. I want to kill people. I want to rip their stomachs out and eat their children."
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TheBaldyMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-11-06 12:43 AM
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24. still can't hold a candle to Ali ( or Chuck Norris )
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SiobhanClancy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-11-06 12:09 AM
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10. Exactly..
I can remember the disdain I once felt for my parents' generation...They were "plastic",materialistic,intolerant..they gave us nuclear weapons,Vietnam,and Richard Nixon. Then I find out later they were the "Greatest Generation"! Who knew? I hope I live long enough to see what my daughter's generation does,because she sounds about like I did years ago. I think it must always be so...
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hickman1937 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-11-06 12:03 AM
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8. Damn, I was preparing to rant about anti-boomer threads,
but lee atwater and karl rove were both born about 1950. I refuse to believe that they define my generation though.
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sasquatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-11-06 12:08 AM
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9. I'm afraid they do
Sorry
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hickman1937 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-11-06 12:33 AM
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19. More so than Jon Stewart and Al Gore?
More than John Lennon, Bill Clinton, Steven Spielburg, Susan Sarandon, Janice Joplin, Sister Helen Prejean, John Sayles, Martin Scorsese, Tim Robbins, and a host of others?
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sasquatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-11-06 12:42 AM
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23. Unfortunatly yes
Sorry but with the exception of Bill Clinton none of those people ever held power or swayed it.
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hickman1937 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-11-06 12:53 AM
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27. Can we agree to disagree?
I will fight to the death to defend your asshole point of view. Would you mine?
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sasquatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-11-06 12:57 AM
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28. I'll tolerate it
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hickman1937 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-11-06 01:09 AM
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30. Yeah, that was harsh.
Sorry. I'm a little cranky lately. I still disagree but that "asshole" crap was uncalled for. Sorry.
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sasquatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-11-06 10:12 AM
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74. Dude, Jon Stewart isn't a boomer
He's a 'tweener.
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Onlooker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-11-06 12:17 AM
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12. The WWII generation (people who were adults in the 1930s and 40s)
Edited on Wed Jan-11-06 12:20 AM by Onlooker
This is the generation that gave us the Depression, Hitler, Stalin, Mussolini, Franco, not to mention Ronald Reagan, and largely supported imperialistic and colonialist policies of Europe and the United States. True, they fought hard to make up for their mistakes, but lost 50,000,000 in the process.
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sasquatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-11-06 01:00 AM
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29. No, they fought the Depression, Hitler, Stalin, and Mussolini
Boomers supported Reagan whole heartedly.
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-11-06 02:19 AM
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33. I don't remember anyone supporting Reagan, but I was in Pittsburgh
and people were losing their jobs like crazy
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sasquatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-11-06 09:42 AM
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72. Same in Ohio, but every state but Minnesota voted for him the second time
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Oeditpus Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-11-06 12:24 AM
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16. So because someone happened to be born
during a certain period, they're responsible for whatever mess you care to name?

Let's see... I was born in 1956, so I must've gotten Ike re-elected, huh?

:eyes:
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Onlooker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-11-06 12:34 AM
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20. No, but . . .
Bush (1946), Osama (1957), Putin (1952) are all part of our generation. I think it's awfully hard to judge the younger generations at this point.
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Oeditpus Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-11-06 12:47 AM
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26. I try not to judge *any* generation
Or any other group based on something as arbitrary as when they were born.

Do different eras have different values? Certainly. But these also vary according to many other factors. And in any case, it doesn't mean anyone will live by those values.

This strikes me as being like astrology: The situation of the planets at someone's birth determines what kind of person they'll be. :eyes:
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sasquatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-11-06 12:46 AM
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25. Not necessarily, Just the rest of you
And one of my favorite was Ike Eisonhower: he was a great moderate leader like Clinton.
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Indy_Dem_Defender Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-11-06 02:13 AM
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31. I've noticed each
Passing generation in a family, the younger generation gets worse I know at least in the category of Clueless financial stupidity as time goes along. It use to be that people said these young kids don't know value of a dollar, I've heard that said to me a few times I'll agree when compared to someone around during the great depression. I'm just amazed by amount of people my age (20-30) who must have shit for brains or have been pampered and sheltered by their parents their whole life. I'm not jealousy just like I said amazed at people my age I've seen their parents paid and done everything for them, In my parents neighborhood like right on their street is full of Kids with houses bought by mommy & daddy, a couple paid off with cash. They don't work or work a part-time job for extra spending cash. I've know alot people who've had new cars, school tutition, housing and anything extra provided for them. I get to talking to them, they honestly don't have a clue why I would be struggling with all this stuff there just as amazed as I am of them, by the way their parents are not in most cases filthy rich either just working middle class giving out this kind of money. This ugly mess (in my view at least) is caused by the parents and doesn't in the end help their kids out in the long run, who's worse the overgiving parent or the clueless kid, I don't know?
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-11-06 02:16 AM
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32. What is this, fuckin' GD??
If I wanted GD, I would GO to GD...

:shrug:
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-11-06 02:20 AM
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34. GD:fucking
Sounds like a good idea for a new forum
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-11-06 02:22 AM
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35. I'm all for it.
Edited on Wed Jan-11-06 02:22 AM by XemaSab
I'm also all for GD: Sucking Hard, which seems to be a significant fraction of the threads around here lately.

On edit: :P
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-11-06 02:24 AM
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37. GD: Blowhardfest 2006!
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-11-06 02:25 AM
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38. GD: Fuckin'A!!!11!!!!!!
n/t
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-11-06 02:25 AM
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40. GD: This is HUGH!!!!!1!!!11!1!!!!!!
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-11-06 02:30 AM
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41. GD: I AM A FREEPER TROLL TRYING TO MAKE YOU LOOK LIKE WINGNUTS!1!!!!!!!!!1
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RandomKoolzip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-11-06 02:31 AM
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42. That's a really odd name for a forum.
Oh wait...were you being ironic? Sorry! Carry on.
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-11-06 02:34 AM
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44. GD: I Was Being Ironic!
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RandomKoolzip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-11-06 02:37 AM
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47. GD: The Quickening
Or howsabout

GD: Nerds in Paradise
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-11-06 02:47 AM
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49. GD: Asperger's is a sad, sad illness.
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RandomKoolzip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-11-06 02:52 AM
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50. GD: Testicular Cancer is The Only Answer
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-11-06 02:57 AM
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51. GD: There Once Was A Man From Nantucket.
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RandomKoolzip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-11-06 02:58 AM
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52. GD: Stately, Plump Buck Mulligan
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-11-06 03:01 AM
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53. GD: Man who go through turnstile sideways going to Bangcock
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RandomKoolzip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-11-06 03:03 AM
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54. GD: If We Keep Selling Hot Dogs, We're Gonna Run Out
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-11-06 03:08 AM
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57. GD: I Don't Have Shit to Say to That, But I'm Responding Anyways...
:rofl:
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RandomKoolzip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-11-06 03:13 AM
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59. GD: The Cough Syrup Is Kicking In
:hi:< in this context, he's waving "bye."
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-11-06 03:18 AM
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61. GD: I'm putting you on ignore because you dared to disagree with me
(have a good night!)
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-11-06 02:34 AM
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43. GD: George Bush was told that two Brazillian soldiers had been killed...
in Iraq.
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-11-06 02:36 AM
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45. GD: Even though I've heard that joke before, it's still funny!!!!!!11!!!!!
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-11-06 02:37 AM
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46. GD: you gotta get out more
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-11-06 02:46 AM
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48. GD: At a certain point, the joke transcends itself and becomes funny
BECAUSE it's corny.
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-11-06 03:14 AM
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60. GD: Yelling at each other until we get sick of it
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-11-06 03:24 AM
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62. GD: Fuck You!
GD: Fuck You Back!

GD: You Suck!

GD: No YOU Suck!

GD: No YOUR MOM Sucks!

etc
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-11-06 03:26 AM
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64. GD: good night
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-11-06 03:28 AM
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65. GD: Keep it real!
:hi:
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-11-06 03:29 AM
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66. GD: who keeps it realer?
:hi:
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sasquatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-11-06 09:45 AM
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73. Well I remeber when someone bashed Gen. X & Y a couple months ago
As I was watching the Colbert report, it all came surgeing back to me too.
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RandomKoolzip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-11-06 02:23 AM
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36. It's so cool how there's no individuals.
Like, everyone can just be picked and boxed into "generations." Isn't that cool? Like how everyone from each generation acted exactly alike? How nobody was ever an iconoclast? How, like, there was never any disagreement among members of certain generations? Like, I think that oversimple and insulting generalizations are fuckin' SWEET!
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-11-06 02:25 AM
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39. Individuals suck. It was an offensivly bourgeois concept
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NMMNG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-11-06 03:04 AM
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55. Indeed
I have a close friend who sometimes claims that I can't possibly understand him or what he went through going up because he is a "baby boomer" and I am a "gen x-er". We were born four years apart for Pete's effing sake! :crazy:
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-11-06 03:05 AM
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56. What is the dividing line?
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NMMNG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-11-06 03:25 AM
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63. Although there are somtimes variations
The general consensus is that Baby Boomers are those born between 1946 and 1954, and Generation X'ers are those born between 1965 and 1978*. Therefore, my friend (born in 1964) is a Baby Boomer, and I (born merely four years later in 1968) am a Gen-X'er. How much importance some attach to labels.


* Some demographers contend this period should be expanded to include 1961-1981 in order to encompass those with similar life experiences
http://www.allbusiness.com/periodicals/article/620473-1.html


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LeftPeopleFinishFirst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-11-06 03:33 AM
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67. haha
i love you. hahahaha.
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-11-06 03:09 AM
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58. nice revisionist summary
isn't a sasquatch an animal that exudes a nauseating stench?
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sasquatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-11-06 07:45 AM
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70. Not anymore, I bathe
:hi:
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Maine Mary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-11-06 03:43 AM
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68. The WWII Gen

They were the BEST generation and the WORST at the same time.

On the up side, had it not been for them, we might have been speaking Japanese or German and be living in a Military State.. These brave young men beat all the odds and were truly liberators.

On the other hand, this also was a Gen. who felt it's their right to turn the wealth of this country towards their needs. It wasn't just the GI Bill, or jobs with garunteed health, retirement, pension plans, ect. No. They didn't stop there. SOCIAL SECURITY! They hounded the system hard. And when that was not good enough, they (by now a formed org. called AARP) Quickly learned how to make their Congressmen do their bidding. They weren't joking. Those folks running around in RV's w/bumper stickers saying I'm spending my son's inheritance" really were! The problem is they didn't realize they were spending their grandchild's too.
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Bridget Burke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-11-06 11:13 AM
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80. Are you joking?
Certainly, your complaints about the GI Bill, jobs with benefits & Social Security must be sarcasm.
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sasquatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-11-06 07:41 AM
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69. Kick for the morning crew
:kick:
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Loonman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-11-06 10:16 AM
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75. Hippies
.
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hobo_baggins Donating Member (754 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-11-06 10:22 AM
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76. Generation Next
pepsi blows
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Bridget Burke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-11-06 10:23 AM
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77. No members of a "generation" had the same experiences.
Born in 1948, I'd qualify as a Boomer. Not everyone was a "hippie." Not everyone became a corporate conservative as they "grew up." Some worked hard at non-corporate jobs while young & have continued to do so--as long as the jobs held out.

I know it's fun to be mad at your parents' generation, but I wasn't. My own parents grew up during the Depression & dealt with the Big War. My father fought; my mother just worked in a stateside government job. He died young--a victim of the Cold War. She was left a young widow with very young children. And she worked hard for her retirement, although she didn't live long enough to enjoy much of it.

I don't believe that ALL Generation-Whatevers are whining slackers, either.

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78. Baby boomers-a bunch of sell outs
And I'm technically one, by two months. I was born in October of 1964. Really, though, people my age are more Xers than boomers.
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anarch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-11-06 10:39 AM
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79. I think it was "Generation C"
As far as I can calculate (if each generation covers about 25 years, and we count backwards from Generation X....), that must be people born somewhere between about 1440 and 1465, so these are the people responsible for the early European settlement of the Americas. What a bunch of stupid jerks!


U.S. out of North America now!!!
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