German man put sex video of ex-girlfriend online

[Kellanved]

MARBURG, GERMANY - In the first such case in Germany, a man was handed a suspended jail term Monday for spitefully releasing onto the internet a sex video of his former girlfriend along with her phone number.

He was sentenced to 18 months' prison and ordered to pay her 35,000 euros (42,000 dollars) in damages.

Convicting him of criminal insult and trafficking in pornography, Judge Mirko Schulte said, "It's now technically impossible to delete these files off the internet." The film of the couple was available on free porn sites round the globe.

...
The girlfriend, 43, subsequently received phone calls from strange men.

http://www.expatica.com/source/site_article.asp?subchannel_id=26&story_id=26702&name=German+man+put+sex+video+of+ex%2Dgirlfriend+online

[Squatch]

1. Who *doesn't* have a porno of themselves on the internet?

Sheesh!

[Strong Atheist]

9. I don't! nt.

[NNadir]

11. Me neither.

Nor my wife.

This really was a detestable action.

[Strong Atheist]

13. Agreed. nt.

[Squatch]

27. I guess people can't recognize rhetorical questions anymore...

[eyepaddle]

77. Which people are you talking about?

;) :evilgrin:

[NewJeffCT]

2. I would never do that to my ex-wife...

Maybe sell them to the Enquirer if she ever became famous. But, not directly onto the internet.

(just kidding!)

[GOPisEvil]

3. What an asshole.

$35000? This woman's life will never be the same. Damn, what an asshole!

[jobycom]

71. Jack needs the story tattooed on his chest, so his next girlfriend

knows better than to trust him. At anything.

I've had some horrible things done to me by a former girlfriend, and in my wildest fantasies I wouldn't dream of doing something like that to her. Sick POS.

[flvegan]

4. Foiled again! I was hoping the link went to the video.

Dammit.

[johnnie]

5. People will never learn

"Yeah, let's make a video of us having sex honey... we will be together forever and ever".
Famous last words.

The guy is an ass, but the woman should have known better. She gets none of my sympathy.

[GOPisEvil]

6. The guy posted her name, address and phone number...

...and she gets NONE of your sympathy? Wow...

[johnnie]

14. Chances are her name, number and address are easily found

Her mistake was letting the guy film them fucking thinking that he would never show it. All he did was a bit more of the old bathroom stall bit "For a good time call 867-5309". That goes back pretty far. The only difference is "Jenny Jenny" didn't make porn movies with whomever wrote he name on the stall.

[GOPisEvil]

15. Oh please. How would someone find her name if it weren't posted?

More blame the victim bullshit.

[johnnie]

22. I'm not blaming the victim

I'm merely saying she is an idiot. It's sort of like a person who decides to play chicken with a train and loses.

[redqueen]

26. Trains don't have brains.

Biggest load of shit I've read all day.

Un fuckin believable.

[GOPisEvil]

28. So she should have her privacy violated?

I honestly don't get it. You're saying she got what she deserved because she's an idiot? You're really saying that? Holy crap.

[redqueen]

30. Comments here are becoming more routinely sickening/shocking lately.

*shakes head sadly*

[johnnie]

36. I didn't say she gets what she deserves

I said I have no sympathy for her. Do I have to whine and moan about every fucking person that has bullshit done to them?

It sucks that the guy put her name up on the internet. I have a little bit of news for you though, people get shitty things done to them all the time. If you feel so strongly for this woman, why don't you get on a plane and fly to Germany and save her from all the pain and anguish she is going through.

Fuck, I can't even have an opinion on here when the "holier than thou" are out in force. I'm not going to fall apart whenever a person gets screwed.

[redqueen]

41. Did anyone ask you to fall apart?

How about you just stop blaming the fucking victim? Too much to ask?

[johnnie]

45. Ok

I don't blame the victim. Feel superior now?

[redqueen]

49. It's not about me feeling superior

It's about you recognizing that your attempt to shift blame to the victim is flat-out wrong.

Nice attempt at deflection, though. Make it about those criticizing you, and NOT what they're criticizing.

Common tactic, and it works on the stupid.

[GOPisEvil]

50. I'm not falling apart. This woman has received remedy through the courts.

She doesn't need me.

You can have an opinion, and you can post it. But I have the right to a dissenting opinion. That's all I posted.

[johnnie]

59. I see a lot of opinions on here I disagree with

And I will discuss it if I feel strongly. When my opinion is attacked with phrases such as "Wow!", "That speaks volumes", "Biggest load of shit" and other childish remarks, I return the same type of remarks.

I don't usually get pissed on here, but I did this time. Not really at you, but in just some of the remarks that are being made to me by other people.

I'll bow out of this thread. To be honest, there are other things on my mind right now other than some people in Germany that broke up.

Oh, and now I know what that little guy with the red x means. Never used it until today. Not you once again. I'm sorry if I offended you David.

[GOPisEvil]

60. I'm not personally offended.

I just have a different view of the situation.

I've about had it with this thread, too.

[redqueen]

63. Good

I don't want you to see my posts, victim-blamer.

[lukasahero]

17. So you are suggesting that a woman should never trust a man

to be a decent human being? Wow, that speaks volumes.

[johnnie]

21. Nope, not at all

Something I learned a long time ago is to never do anything you might regret later. Hey, if people want to film themselves getting boned, it ain't no skin off my nose. The woman in this story is older than I am and I have heard of this shit happening more than once in my lifetime and I'm surprised she has never heard of it happening.

Not too long ago a friend of mine broke up with her b/f and said to me "Oh no! He has pictures of us doing it, he will put them on the net". How would she have known people put that stuff on the net if she never heard of it happening before?

As for "suggesting that a woman should never trust a man", why do you suggest that a woman would never do what this guy did? That speaks volumes also. All I am saying is... don't do stupid things that you might regret. You could be a man or woman, I don't differentiate between the two.

[redqueen]

25. deleted

deleted

too fucking angry

[bloom]

31. There sure are

a lot of people on here that don't expect people to trust them :shrug: like those who see nothing wrong with doing this - or at least nothing wrong with posting videos of people without their permission.

I think it is true that people could never be sure what some others might do (before? or) after a breakup and esp. that people who seem wonderful at the time may not be so wonderful later.

[CanuckAmok]

18. Meh.

I can see s little punitive damages beng awarded to her, like maybe $5000 or so.

But five figures? C'mon. She has some responsibility for this, consenting to being in a sex video in an age where digital video lives forever.

So she can change her phone number. So she can move.

She brought tons more publicity to this by suing her ex. If she hadn't taken this to court/involved the police, the video would have been forgotten in a few months. Instead, she's become this year's "Paris Hilton sex tape".

They're both morons. It's an unfair decision.

Oh, and what's up with a German criminal charge of "trafficing in pornography"?! I thought porn was Germany's principle export!

[GOPisEvil]

19. More blame the victim crap.

His actions are reprehensible. She wouldn't have been forced to change her phone number and move if he had just been a fucking adult and not posted their private moments to the world.

[redqueen]

29. Hey, and people are stupid for smoking, so fuck them.

If they actually believed that those corporations were being honest, then they're idiots, right?

I could go on all day debunking this bullshit.

[johnnie]

Have you ever seen a smoking thread on DU?

Most of us smokers know it is bad for us and I have never asked for pity because of the shit it does to my body. I made the choice to smoke and I take full responsibility.

[redqueen]

40. Was I talking about you?

Bit narcissistic there eh? The answer is no, I was not. Have you filed a lawsuit against a tobacco company? No? Dunno how you made that mistake.

I was referring to lawsuits in which the VICTIMS were awarded damages. You know, those victims that deserve scorn and maybe a little cash, but certainly no large amounts.

Cause you know, they're just idiots. Their fault really.

[yurbud]

38. Where did "meh" come from? My girlfriend puts that in her IMs all the

time and I don't get it.

[redqueen]

24. that's fucked up... blaming the victim

proud of yourself, are ya?

[johnnie]

42. .

Yeah, I am proud of myself. :eyes:


I think some people need to get out of the house more.

[redqueen]

46. I can see that by your snarky attitude.

What other kinds of victims do you blame?

[yurbud]

7. posting her phone number is going too far. video is okay if tastefully

done

[bloom]

12. that's ridiculous

posting videos of people without their permission is not ok no matter how tastefully done.

I don't know how anyone could think that is ok.

[yurbud]

20. well, what if it made them look more attractive than they really are?

[bloom]

23. that doesn't have anything to do with anything. n/t

[yurbud]

37. What if she told all your friends you have a small penis?

A girl who went out with one of my friends told me that, and I would have believed it we hadn't happened to be in the shower at the gym at the same time (and he's so tall his crotch is at my eye level).

[bloom]

48. What does that have to do with anything?

You mean you think that would give you the right to do whatever illegal or immoral thing in return? :wtf:

Sort of like the Iraq war for 911? or Bomb Iran because they might do something we don't like (and besides they made rude comments about Israel)?

[yurbud]

53. Wouldn't you bomb Iraq if your girlfriend told people you had a small

penis?

[bloom]

58. I wouldn't - but Bush* might.

I was hoping people around here might be better than that.


You think Clinton would have - bombed Iraq, etc...?

[yurbud]

78. Clinton seemed to have no problem getting laid, so it wouldn't have come

up.

Okay, I'll admit it, I'm kidding.

I would be shocked and angry if someone did this to my sister or mom, and of course it's immoral, but it's pretty boring to say that.

[matcom]

8. what? no link to the video?

x(

[Wapsie B]

16. That's what I was thinking.

Where's the porn?

Where are these free porn sites? Inquiring minds want to know. :evilgrin:

[Strong Atheist]

10. This is always so wrong ... nt.

[Radical Activist]

32. There's a law against doing that?

I thought it was just an expected part of any ungly break up.
haha ;)

[Loonman]

33. Moral of the story is:

Don't let yourself be filmed having sex!

[lukasahero]

35. Or "don't ever trust anyone even your partner"

Which is a really sad way to go through life but apparently a pretty common phenomenon around here.

[redqueen]

43. "around here" being a *progressive* board?

Or did you mean this country?

Just curious...

[lukasahero]

55. I guess I meant on this board

I guess I can't believe how many people here (here being the only message board I frequent) talk about how we shouldn't trust anyone but ourselves so they can pass off the blame on the victim if someone actually does happen to trust someone to behave decently and then gets hurt by it. Sometimes the display of fear and anger still stuns me.

I don't know many people in my life who are so full of distrust like I've seen here so I didn't necessarily mean the country, but now that you mention it...

[Loonman]

44. I'm just sayin'

I don't leave loaded weapons around lunatics, or put my penis in charge of maniacs with hedge clippers, either.

It's about looking out for #1...because in the end, nobody else will.

[lukasahero]

57. Good luck with that.

I know it's a common belief "around here" (here being this board) but most women don't intentionally date jerks. So, I don't think the leaving weapons around lunatics comparison is particularly valid. Perhaps she didn't think he was a lunatic and actually *gasp* trusted him to be a decent human being and have a little respect for her regardless of the turns their relationship took?

The only answer you have is don't trust anybody. Ever. Your choice. I'm just saying it must suck to live that way.

[Daisy Adair]

39. Riiiight, it's SHE who's at fault.

wow.

I think I am in the wrong place.

[redqueen]

34. Fuck this shit.

Not even safe in the lounge anymore.

[Loonman]

47. "Big tent party", my ass

You must think exactly as we do! No differing opinion allowed!

[redqueen]

51. What other kinds of victims deserve blame?

Just curious...

[bloom]

52. Like you think feminists are going to say they like misogyny? n/t

[GOPisEvil]

54. You posted an opinion. Others posted a differing view.

Where are your views being repressed? Martyr yourself much?

[Loonman]

56. They're not

But "I think you're wrong, and this is why" is a better thing to say then being classed as a rightie, a rightie enabler or freeper. I don't really obsess over ot too much, but in comparison to other unrelated whacked out shit I've read in GD, my opinions are not too far-fetched. I thought this was the party of frequent heated discussion, not "my way or the highway".

Guess you learn something new everyday.

[bloom]

62. I don't need people in my tent

who would so causally violate my right to privacy and who would see nothing wrong in it. And yeah - that does sound freeperish.

[redqueen]

64. Who classed you as a rightie or a freeper?

Lots of persecution complexes surfacing today.

[GOPisEvil]

69. My only point was that this woman's privacy was violated.

She had every expectation that her ex-boyfriend not be an asshole. But, he was, and she has received remedy for it, which she deserves. Just because she chose to place her trust in the wrong person is no reason for her to have her privacy violated. Obviously the German court agreed.

[Loonman]

73. Yes it was, and the court renumerated her

But it won't take back her dignity, or her sense of lost propriety. Who the hell makes sex videos of themselves, anyway? Besides professionals?

Whatever you do, especially if it's damaging, will surface and will be used against you, for malicious reasons and otherwise. Sure the amount of people I trust wouldn't fill a walk-in closet, but I'm much better for it.

[lukasahero]

79. One last question about privacy and protecting oneself

I take it you're ok with shrub violating your privacy because you've done nothing you could ever be embarrassed about or hurt by?

[Loonman]

80. That question is so fucking stupid

It doesn't deserve a response.

[jobycom]

65. Was the irony of this post intended?

I don't mean the obvious sarcasm, I mean the irony of the sarcasm? Kind of a neat literary trick--a statement meant to be sarcastic which in fact holds an ironic element which hints that the literal statement is meant at face value. Very nifty.

[lukasahero]

75. I *heart* jobycom.

:loveya:

and

:rofl:

[jobycom]

76. Ah, I'm blushing!!

Really!

[Beware the Beast Man]

61. Bravo, Kellanved!

This is the tastiest popcorn I've had in ages! :popcorn:

[ContraBass Black]

66. I'm just trying to figure out how

"This is a lesson that we're better off if we don't expose ourselves," translates to "It's all her fault! The man is blameless!"

[Beware the Beast Man]

67. I'm sitting this one out.

As dumb as it is to videotape yourself having sex, it's just as wrong for a jilted ex to post it all over the internets.

[ContraBass Black]

70. Careful, you just posted an opinion.

Better edit it before it gets torn out of you and shoved up/down the wrong orifice.

[Beware the Beast Man]

72. That's as far as I'm taking it.

:)

[johnnie]

68. No shit

Explain it to me when you figure it out.

[Loonman]

74. LOL

:toast:

[Midlodemocrat]

81. Locking

In the immortal words of JFK...Ich bein ein berliner...which in this case means...

Flamefest in the lounge.

Thank you
DU Moderator.