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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-11-06 09:30 PM
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Nudity during sex annuls marriage, says cleric - Whoa!
http://www.khaleejtimes.com/DisplayArticle.asp?xfile=data/middleeast/2006/January/middleeast_January239.xml§ion=middleeast&col=

CAIRO — An Egyptian cleric’s controversial fatwa claiming that nudity during sexual intercourse invalidates a marriage has uncovered a rift among Islamic scholars. According to the religious edict issued by Rashad Hassan Khalil, a former dean of Al Azhar University’s faculty of Sharia, “being completely naked during the act of coitus annuls the marriage”.

The religious decree sparked a hot debate on the private satellite network Dream’s popular religious talk show and on the front page of Sunday’s Al Masri Al Yom, Egypt’s leading independent daily newspaper.

Suad Saleh, who heads the women’s department of Al Azhar’s Islamic studies faculty, pleaded for “anything that can bring spouses closer to each other” and rejected the claim that nudity during intercourse could invalidate a union.

During the live televised debate, Islamic scholar Abdel Muti dismissed the fatwa: “Nothing is prohibited during marital sex, except of course sodomy.”

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MrSlayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-11-06 09:32 PM
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1. Insanity.
Who comes up with these fucking ludicrous rules?

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LiberalEsto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-11-06 09:34 PM
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4. I've heard some religious folks do it thru a sheet
I can't remember which group - maybe some very orthodox Jews?

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tocqueville Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-11-06 09:39 PM
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14. the word "Glory hole" got a whole new meaning... nt
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-11-06 09:40 PM
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17. Wrong. Urban myth.
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LiberalEsto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-11-06 09:58 PM
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29. I'm relieved to hear it! nt
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-11-06 10:43 PM
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35. I'm sure they are, too!
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MrSlayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-11-06 09:45 PM
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21. Religion is just stupid.
I'm sorry but it is. It's nonsensical, illogical and ridiculous. Some jackass decides what you eat, how you fuck, who you can fuck, what you can think, how you can dress, which foot to enter a bathroom with and so on. And to not follow means everlasting torment in "Hell" or what's worse torture and death here on Earth. It's just plain silly, superstitious rot. The world would be far better off without religion.
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Spock_is_Skeptical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-11-06 10:01 PM
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31. Agreed!
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ladjf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-11-06 11:02 PM
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38. Superstition is a dangerous guid beacon to follow.
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ladjf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-11-06 11:00 PM
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37. That might be good for laughs , once.
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hwmnbn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-11-06 09:44 PM
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20. Don't you mean these....
ludicrous fucking rules?
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MrSlayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-11-06 09:46 PM
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22. Heh.
Could have been said that way, yes.
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WindRavenX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-11-06 09:32 PM
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2. granted, keeping some clothes on during the deed can be fun...
...but required? Bah.
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Oeditpus Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-12-06 01:43 AM
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47. 'I like the way the line runs down the back of the stockings'
"I've always liked those kinda high heels, too. Nonononono, don't take 'em off, don't take 'em off, leave 'em on! Yeah, that's it; a little more to the right."

:evilgrin:
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-11-06 09:34 PM
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3. This proves there is no 'intelligent design'.
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RagingInMiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-11-06 09:34 PM
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5. Religious freaks are everywhere
We should put them all on an island and let them sodomize each other.
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4morewars Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-11-06 09:38 PM
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13. Just say NO to sodomy !
During the live televised debate, Islamic scholar Abdel Muti dismissed the fatwa: “Nothing is prohibited during marital sex, except of course sodomy.”
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jimshoes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-11-06 09:59 PM
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30. and vegetables...
and...
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Raydawg1234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-11-06 10:10 PM
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33. or better yet, Just say no to religion!
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CornField Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-11-06 09:35 PM
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6. What stupid, little-minded people we all are
Instead of worrying about those who die of starvation or those who suffer from disease, we spend our time debating biological reproductive practices and what, at any given moment, some sacred deity may think of such.

Let me make this one really clear: If you are lucky enough in life to find someone you love that loves you back, please enjoy each other sexually however you please. The rest of us don't need to hear about it and no one else should really have a say in it -- especially any deity who made you the way you are.

Life is way too short for perpetual hair-up-the-ass syndrome.
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EST Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-11-06 09:51 PM
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25. AAAAmen!
Your monologue should be stamped on people's foreheads, almost!
Required reading.
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PretzelWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-11-06 09:36 PM
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7. I'll be sure and tell my wife when we get home that we haven't
been married for years according to Mr. Fatwa
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tnlefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-11-06 09:36 PM
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8. Isn't some nudity necessary?
I guess getting nekkid would be seen as a clear signal that one no longer wishes to be married.
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woodsprite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-11-06 09:40 PM
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16. Getting naked with a neighbor means the marriage is invalidated.
Now THAT decree I can see as holding some water.
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tnlefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-11-06 09:49 PM
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24. No, that makes you a family values, baptist, republican in my neighborhood
Which is probably why they hate my hubbie and me 'cause we liberals refuse to join in their little parties. Oh, and these folks are still in a tizzy 'cause Clinton cheated on his wife.:crazy:
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tularetom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-11-06 09:37 PM
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9. These guys are so frickin dumb
that I thought the "cleric" you referred to was Robertson, taking time off from making threats in god's name to telling fundies how to hide the salami.
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tocqueville Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-11-06 09:37 PM
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10. US fundies probably agree...
and wearing a condom invalidates marriage
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AlinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-11-06 09:38 PM
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11. When I saw this, I thought it was something from the conservatives in
the US- republicans/Falwell/Robertson/Dobson/Bush** people.
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boobooday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-11-06 09:38 PM
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12. Get 'em on a technicality
Some fishnets and pasties?

Would that make it okay?
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NaturalHigh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-11-06 09:40 PM
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15. That's it! I'm not taking any chances.
I'll be buying my wife those knee-high boots I've had my eye on.
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OldLeftieLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-11-06 09:42 PM
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18. This is why
I always wear a hat and night-vision goggles during sex.


(OLL having sex)
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Ready4Change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-11-06 09:44 PM
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19. Women MUST wear garters. Men MUST wear toolbelts.
It's the law!
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Prisoner_Number_Six Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-11-06 09:47 PM
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23. A decree from a man who's obviously never gotten any
and never ever WILL.

He has to try to spoil it for EVERYBODY. Jeez, wotta prude.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-11-06 09:51 PM
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26. I guess time to bring back that old sheet with the hole in it.
:evilgrin:

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barb162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-11-06 11:22 PM
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42. you bad
As soon as I saw what you wrote, I thought of the other medieval stuff, chastity belts. I always wondered why men didn't have to wear some form of those contraptions. But then again what does "equal" have to do with anything in regard to chastity belts
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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-11-06 09:56 PM
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27. I'm sure glad I can get nekkid..
... because that's the way I like it :evilgrin:
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tuvor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-11-06 09:56 PM
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28. Let's hear it for fundies!
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Patsy Stone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-11-06 10:02 PM
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32. Now this could either be good or bad
If you're nude with a woman who isn't your wife, does it annul the marriage you're in?
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pop goes the weasel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-11-06 10:10 PM
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34. If you wear clothing during extramarital sex
does that make you married?
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tanyev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-11-06 10:55 PM
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36. They don't need to be giving our fundies any more ideas.
We'll be living The Handmaid's Tale pretty soon.
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-11-06 11:05 PM
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39. So if Julie can't see Tom's peep, the marriage is safe?
:shrug:
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barb162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-11-06 11:23 PM
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43. Yes
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meow2u3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-11-06 11:13 PM
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40. Keeping your socks on will do the trick
Edited on Wed Jan-11-06 11:14 PM by StopThePendulum
Maybe that will satisfy the censors and the cameras they hide in their bedrooms :evilgrin:
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barb162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-11-06 11:17 PM
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41. yeah, but do the socks have to go up to your neck?
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meow2u3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-12-06 12:31 AM
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45. It's called a body suit
complete with appropriately positioned holes :evilgrin:
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barb162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-12-06 01:29 AM
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46. gotcha
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MercutioATC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-11-06 11:49 PM
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44. I spent HOW much on my divorce?!?!?
Had I only known....
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