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Mobius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 08:06 AM
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Tom Cruise hatred thread
Scientologist, what else do you need to know?
Oh, dumps wife for younger women.
Bad actor, except for one movie. (4th of july)
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 08:13 AM
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1. He's a useless shitpile that isn't worth the waste of energy it takes to
aim your dick to piss on him.
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Mobius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 08:17 AM
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2. but i dont have a penis
can i through used tampons at him, instead? :shrug:
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 08:18 AM
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3. Yeah, that's perfect!
That's all his value really is, that of the used tampon receptacle in a rarely cleaned public interstate bathroom.
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Mobius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 08:20 AM
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4. I can put several in a freezer bag
and let them sit out for a few days, and get really ripe...how's that?
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cleofus1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 08:21 AM
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5. he sucks the life out of all his movies
Edited on Fri Jan-13-06 08:21 AM by cleofus1
take mission impossible for example...it should be an ensemble piece...but in the end tom makes it a solo vehicle...reminds me of the old joke...how many tom cruises does it take to screw in a lightbulb...

just one!

he just holds up the lightbulb and the world revolves around him!

(originally this was a guitarist joke...bu the principal is the same)
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Mobius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 08:25 AM
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6. He plays himself
Edited on Fri Jan-13-06 08:26 AM by Mobius
ALL THE TIME. He has as much variation in his skills as in , I dunno... PI? :shrug:
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Robeson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 08:27 AM
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7. Can I just sit and watch?.....
....:popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn:
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Mobius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 08:28 AM
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8. sure
will you take pics of his humiliation for us?
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Robeson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 08:32 AM
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9. I'll take mental pics......
....it'll be fun to watch....:toast:
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 08:55 AM
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10. Who'd he dump Katie for?
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Mobius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 09:36 AM
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11. give it a year
im sure hes already screwing around on the side, in a misguided attempt to feel like more of a man
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 09:37 AM
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12. Do we have to?
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Mobius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-14-06 11:43 AM
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20. yes
:D
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bertha katzenengel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 09:42 AM
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13. Hatred is a terrible waste of otherwise good energy.
Why hate? :shrug:
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Mobius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-14-06 11:43 AM
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21. Because Tom Cruise Sucks
n/t
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NNadir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-14-06 09:08 PM
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39. I can't say I hate Cruise.
Edited on Sat Jan-14-06 09:10 PM by NNadir
I find him - and all other Scientologists rather odd - and I can't imagine why any one would worship L. Ron Hubbard, especially when all of the elements of the "religion" could be contained in any bad science fiction novel..

I can't imagine why anyone would worship Sun Myung Moon either.

But look, I have trouble understanding why anyone would worship Jesus Christ too.

I am unacquainted with any of the above people, Hubbard, Moon or Christ - but I suspect that they were all a similar type of person - charismatic at the same time as they were somewhat disturbed.

Neither have I met Mr. Cruise.

Although I think of him as a so-so actor - his ex-wife is much better than he is in the few of her movies that I've seen - he inspires no particular emotions in me, certainly not hatred. If I'm going to get into hate, it is much better to hate Republicans. I have no idea what Mr. Cruise espouses politically; neither am I particularly interested in his opinions on anything else. He is an actor, not a philosopher.

I question his proclivity for speaking about subjects about which he is poorly educated, mental illness, although apparently he does have direct experience with the condition on his own, given what I hear of his behavior. I think his comments on Ms. Shields were rude, but I note - having read her response in the New York Times - that she responded publicly with grace and aplomb. Therefore the matter is more or less closed.

Whatever the case, it is now a common practice for people to have strong opinions on subjects about which they know nothing. For instance, everyone wants to tell teachers how to teach. Many people other than Tom Cruise think that doctors should not follow their medical school training so much as they should follow what is taught to the general public on the internet. I personally have experience with people who understand almost nothing about nuclear engineering or nuclear chemistry making rather uninformed remarks about nuclear power.

Thus, at least in this limited way, Tom Cruise is not so much an exceptional person as he is an ordinary person. He is a symptom of our very disturbing times, the age of the intellectually lazy armchair expert.

Otherwise, I don't give a rat's ass about Tom Cruise and his girlfriends.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 09:45 AM
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14. i don't hate him, i laugh at him.
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wildhorses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 09:51 AM
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15. he is very. fucking. funny.
hilarious even!!!
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 09:55 AM
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16. he is, everytime i see i laugh, i really hope he does another tv interview
soon, hopefully on Oprah, that would be some comedy gold.
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wildhorses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 10:01 AM
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17. no wonder I keep up with this shit
it is comic relief....
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liberalhistorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-14-06 02:10 PM
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28. Yes, and
"jumping the couch" has become and especially funny phrase now being used to describe someone who's gone permanently over the edge. It's even in the online urban slang dictionary, lol. It certainly fits, what a complete idiot. If a man had done that in my "honor" in front of millions, I'd be too embarrassed to show my face in public again for a long time!
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-14-06 08:22 PM
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38. Yeah, "jump the couch" has replaced "jump the shark"!!!
What a waste of a tiny little mind!
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SaveElmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 11:00 AM
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18. Oh come on...
Sure he is a little whacky, but on balance he is a good actor, starred in some great movies, and is on our side politically....

There are alot worse in Hollywood to beat up on...
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Mobius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-14-06 11:49 AM
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22. A LITTLE Wacky?
"I’d like to start a religion. That’s where the money is."
- L. Ron Hubbard to Lloyd Eshbach in 1949, quoted by Eshbach in OVER MY SHOULDER: REFLECTIONS ON A SCIENCE FICTION ERA. Donald M. Grant Publisher, 1983

<snip>

In the late 1960s Hubbard released the "upper levels." Scientologists who had spent hundreds or thousands of hours vainly pursuing often-promised supernatural abilities were guaranteed that these procedures would finally deliver on the promise. Based on a science-fiction-like story taking place millions of years ago and involving a cruel Galactic despot named Xenu and his evil minions (elsewhere identified as present-day Christian clergy and psychiatrists), the upper levels are kept secret until a member is deemed ready to receive them. The estimated cost from beginning Scientology courses through completion of the upper levels is today $300,000 - $500,000 in US dollars.




More Here:
http://www.xenu.net/
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tenshi816 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-13-06 12:31 PM
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19. I don't hate him exactly, but
I've never understood all the adulation he gets. He's only a so-so actor, and I just don't get why he's supposed to be sexy. I've always found him completely overrated.

It does piss me off mightily that simply because he's a famous actor, we're all supposed to think he's an expert in other areas (like mental health, for instance). Why should I follow Tom Cruise's advice on anything?
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Mobius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-14-06 11:51 AM
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23. Hey, for a mere $500,000
you too can be mentally clean :sarcasm:
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tenshi816 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-14-06 01:43 PM
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24. But I like being mentally dirty... n/t
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-14-06 01:49 PM
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25. I thought he was good in Risky Business and Rain Man
Edited on Sat Jan-14-06 01:52 PM by Skittles
very inconsistent actor though......he has disappointed me greatly, I find it sad the way Scientology has infected his mind to the point where he didn't seem to realize how egregious it was the way he demonized Ms. Brooke Shields for her very personal decisions (which I applaud her for making public)....while I agree with him that drugs are way over-prescribed, his singling out Ms. Shields was just dreadful; simply put, it was none of his business and he owes her a HUGE apology
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liberalhistorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-14-06 02:03 PM
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26. As a woman who will be
on preventive anti-depressants for the rest of her life, medicine that has been a literal godsend, and who suffered horribly from post-partum depression that NO amount of vitamins and exercise would have alleviated, and as a woman who does not believe in allowing men to control your lives and making you stand in their shadow because their vastly oversized egos cannot handle you getting even slight attention, I say a hearty FUCK TOM CRUISE!

And did you know that the phrase "jumping the couch" is now being used to describe someone who's gone permanently over the edge, just like "jumping the shark" is used in the same way for TV shows?

Did you also know that he's demanding that Katie Holmes talk rarely, if at all, to actors younger than him and that he wants her to quit show business entirely once their baby is born? The same shit he was trying to pull on Nicole Kidman and the same shit he pulled on Penelope Cruz, which is why she wisely dumped his sorry, worthless ass.
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Mobius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-15-06 09:03 AM
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44. SING IT GIRL!
:hug:
said it better tham I could
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Floogeldy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-14-06 02:04 PM
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27. He is a really good actor.
I love The Firm, A Few Good Men and Collateral.

This is America, Jack. You can be a Scientologist if you want, and leave your wife if you want.

Leave the guy alone. ;)
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liberalhistorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-14-06 02:14 PM
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29. Yes, you can, but
you have no right to demonize an entire profession and entire group of people and demand that they believe the same way you do about it, as he has done, NO right at all; especially when you don't know what the fuck you're talking about. I can guaran-damn-tee you that he knows NOTHING about psychiatry or what it's like to deal with depression, post-partum depression, etc., and what a godsend a lot of psychiatric medicines really are. NOTHING.

God help Katie Holmes if she suffers from post-partum depression, because I can say from absolute first-hand as well as second-hand experience that NO amount of "vitamins and exercise" will help, none.
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Floogeldy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-14-06 02:51 PM
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31. I must respectfully disagree, in part.
Every American has the right to demonize an entire profession and entire group of people and demand that they believe the same way you do about it (that would be a silly demand, though).

I have no idea what Cruise knows about psychiatry, depression or medicines.

But I share your wish that God helps Katie if she suffers from post-partun depression.

:)
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liberalhistorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-14-06 02:57 PM
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32. He knows NOTHING
about them but he thinks he knows everything, that's the problem. His exchange with Matt Lauer, in which he called psychiatrists quacks and psychiatry as a whole a bunch of quack bullshit, and where he said that depression and other mental illnesses don't need any other treatment besides vitamins and exercise, and where he castigated Brooke Shields for daring to actually seek treatment for her post-partum depression, proved he doesn't know what the fuck he's talking about. And because he's a celeb, he unfortunately has more influence on vulnerable people than he ever should.
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Floogeldy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-14-06 03:12 PM
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34. Okay
Name one vulnerable person who, due to the influence of Tom Cruise, suffered harm because he or she failed to seek treatment and medication from a psychiatrist.
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philosophie_en_rose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-14-06 06:51 PM
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36. There are many scientologists that have died.
Lisa McPherson, among others. It doesn't matter if Cruise didn't personally release the roaches that ate at her dead body. He's an active part of the pyramid scheme that causes death.

Tom Cruise can advocate what he wants; just like the Freepers. But, just like Republicans, his ideas are dangerous and political. We should not be forced to subsidize his business under the guise of a religion. We should not allow the laws against psychiatry that Cruise and his so-called religion demand. Society should not condone the harassment and vicious practices that Cruise and his religion do condone.

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Floogeldy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-14-06 09:54 PM
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41. Are you a Christian?
I hope not, because then you might have to take part of the blame for those murdered abortion doctors.

Oh, and that army of yours in Iraq has wiped out 120,000 innocents, too.

My point is that it is ridiculous to try to link Cruise to that lady's death.
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Mobius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-15-06 09:07 AM
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45. yay I'm not a Christian!
guess that means Im cool then :shrug:
Not to whine, but you can't really blame all Christians for what's wrong with the world. i think there are a few good non republican ones...
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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-14-06 02:19 PM
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30. not only that
but he donated $1000 to Hillary instead of supporting my campaign for the Senate. With his endorsement I coulda gotten on Letterman and been a contenda. :spank:
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Missy Vixen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-14-06 03:03 PM
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33. I keep wondering how much better "Eyes Wide Shut"
would have been with a different actor. (I also wonder how much better it would have been if it were recut, too, but we'll never have that.) Nicole Kidman's a great actress, but they had NO chemistry together. Unbelievable. While I'm at it, I think I would have enjoyed "Minority Report" much more with a different actor, too.

Julie
actively avoids Tom Cruise films
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asthmaticeog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-14-06 09:40 PM
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40. I thought he was perfect in that movie.
He played a smirking, not-so-bright dickweed with a wildly inflated sense of self-importance. Flawless casting.
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Mobius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-15-06 09:09 AM
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46. The Last Samurai
Cruise plays himself, yet again...hated it...*snap...snap*
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necso Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-14-06 04:08 PM
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35. I don't hate Mr Cruise.
Edited on Sat Jan-14-06 05:00 PM by necso
What he does is his own business, although I think that when the effects of someone's actions are ungood (but lawful), then these effects should (and must) be countered.

But I don't care much for "scientology". -- I've seen what it has done to too many people (even friends) to like it much. (One effect that I've seen is stopping people from getting help when they needed it -- and when they could benefit from it.)

As for this "help", let me tell you a little story.

I was riding a bus once, when some person got on.

Now, I don't know what it is, but I seem to attract people who need to talk to someone. Maybe they sense that I will listen (generally) nonjudgmentally.

In any event, even though the bus was nowhere near full capacity, this person sat across from me and started talking like a whirlwind.

It turns out that he had quit taking his medicine, was having "visions" -- and was on a "pilgrimage" to some shrine.

I wasn't critical, I asked a few questions, but mostly I just listened. And after an hour or so, this person got off of the bus intending to call his sister (he knew that his family would be worried, and he was concerned about this), get help -- and go back on his meds.

I felt then that it was the right thing to do... and I would do the same thing now.

Psycho-active medicines and counseling can help some people.

Where these do, and where there is no reasonable alternative, then I am ok with them.

But there also has to be room for just being different, and we should never rush to put people in little boxes... little boxes that maybe, sometimes, describe us better than them. And we should never put people on medicines without considering the side effects -- and the net results.
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Jamastiene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-14-06 06:54 PM
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37. Fucking weirdo in general.
And the worst thing is that he has Oprah Winfrey snowed, I'm talking snowed.
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BlueIris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-15-06 12:27 AM
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42. Don't hate Crazy Tom, hate the cult that did this to him:
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Mobius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-15-06 09:11 AM
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47. already posted that
Edited on Sun Jan-15-06 09:12 AM by Mobius
go right to the source http://www.tomcruiseisnuts.com yes, it's real link.
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misanthrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-15-06 12:34 AM
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43. I vote "yes."**nm
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