I just watched Raging Bull for the first time.

[hickman1937]

Great movie, I will definitely have to watch it a few more times, which is high praise for me. I still see why Ordinary People won the Oscar that year though.

[bigwillq]

1. Raging Bull should've won Best Picture.

Ord. People is a good movie but nothing more than a TV movie of the week, imo.

[hickman1937]

2. Now, maybe. In 1980, no.

Nobody dealt with the dynamics of families back then. Especially mothers who were capable of hating a child. It struck too close to home for many more people than Jake La Motta did. In 2005 we've seen it all in Jerry Springer and with Munchausen by proxy. Before Ordinary People, Mom was mostly sacred.

[NashVegas]

18. I Still Think OP Is a Great Movie

The acting, especially Mary Tyler Moore and Donald Sutherland, is some of the best I've seen anywhere.

I watched Raging Bull once, thought it was great, but can't say I've ever had any desire to see it again.

OP still hits home, now more than ever for me. MTM's character didn't hate her son, I don't think. She just had nothing to give him, resented the fact that he lived when her favorite died, and couldn't bear to face that aspect of herself.

[RebelOne]

3. When I lived in Miami, I worked for a city magazine,.

appropriately named "Miami Magazine" and we did an article on Vickie LaMotta. Our editor, Mark MacNamara, took her out to dinner for the interview. It was funny when he told how when they got to the restaurant and he asked the headwaiter to give them a good table because he was with Vicki LaMotta. The waiter said, "Who?" Mark said, "You know, Raging Bull, Raging Bull." Waiter was still in the dark.

After dinner, they went back to her place in North Miami. She put "Raging Bull" in the VCR for them to watch. He fell asleep.

[DanCa]

4. How would you rate raging bull with cinderella man?

I dont like russel crow but I deffinetly think it beats out raging bull. I am not knocking raging bull mind - it's an awesome movie- I am you just giving my preference.

[Burma Jones]

5. Cinderella Man is Positive and Life Affirming

Raging Bull is a great tragedy and just wiped me out with feelings of pity and revulsion simultaneously

So, I would say that Raging Bull is the "better" movie because it had a greater effect, but Cinderella Man had a nice way of altering my attitude towards setbacks...

[NaturalHigh]

6. Unfortunately, Cinderella Man portrays Max Baer...

in a very negative light, trying to make him a stereotypical hollywood villain. Baer was actually a very nice guy, who had respect for all of his opponents, including Jimmy Braddock.

[DanCa]

7. That was my only complaint about the film

The rest of the story was great however.

[Montauk6]

10. Indeed, Maxie took no pride in killing those guys in the ring.

My understanding is that went out of his way to do shows and exhibitions in order to raise money for the families.

Plus, he sired one of the greatest sitcom actors of all time.

[DanCa]

13. "naught from naught is naught" is that kid your talking about :D

Jethro Bodine rules. The greates double naught spy of all time.

[Montauk6]

14. The one and only sophisticated, international playboy!

[DanCa]

15. who could only score a date with jane hathaway despite jeds money.

So much for a sixth grade ed-ah-kashun.

[Montauk6]

12. As a boxing movie, Cinderella is superior; the fight sequences are genius.

But I see Raging Bull, from the mind of Paul Schrader, as a classic tale of a man wrestling with some very foul demons.

[DanCa]

16. George Foreman I think really needs to have his tale told on film

Think about it, a criminal to the jobs corps to the olympic medalist to world champ to preacher to world champ again. What an amazing ride he has had.

[Montauk6]

17. I agree. His personality metamorphosis alone is a screenwriter's dream.

[DanCa]

8. It saddens me when people think that rocky is the best boxing movie

Hey rocky one is a good movie, but theres so much much more in the boxing genere. Has anyone ever seen the great white hope or somebody up there likes me?

[Montauk6]

9. Ever notice how dated Rocky seems? I swear it looks like a TV movie.

[DanCa]

11. Rocky one is still watchable rocky two bearable

but from than on it gets bad to worse. You know I really hope that they do a George Foreman story. What a life he has lived.

[dannofoot]

19. Raging Bull is not a "boxing movie"

It is a movie about people who happen to be, and be around, boxers and boxing.

"Rocky" is a boxing movie. "Raging Bull" was a film about a man named Jake LaMotta,who happened to be a boxer, and the people in his life. Huge difference.

Calling "Raging Bull" a "boxing movie" is like calling "Ghandi" a "British historical" film.