Meaning of "Elitist": Is the movie "The 40 Year Old Virgin" for elitists?

[Boojatta]

Yes or No?

[EstimatedProphet]

1. ?

:wtf:

[Deja Q]

2. Are 40 year old virgins elitists?

:shrug:

[hfojvt]

3. Probably

That is an upper or middle class problem more than it is a working class problem, like Charlie Daniels sang "a poor girl wants to marry, a rich girl wants to flirt. A rich man goes to college, and a poor man goes to work. A drunkard wants another drink of wine, and a politician wants to vote. I don't want much of nothing at all, but I will take another toke."

[fishwax]

6. whatever happened to that charlie daniels?

that was a good song. but nowadays :puke:

[Coventina]

10. Hmmm.....it seemed like a working-class movie to me.

None of those people were rich. I suppose some could qualify as middle class.

The "hero" of the story lives in a very modest apartment and doesn't even own a car.

[hfojvt]

13. isn't that typical of NYC?

Was he blue collar or white collar? Was he low end service sector, or office?
Although, as I consider it, office people are perhaps less well paid than those in good factories, especially considering the cost of living, but there might be a different mind-set. Would he, for example, consider manual labor, even if it paid better (like the legendary NYC garbagemen) to be beneath him? That is where the elitist line is, in the status of the job more than the income.

[Coventina]

14. Have you seen the movie? Your questions seem to indicate that you haven't

I suggest you watch the movie before throwing the elitest label at it.

And it is NOT set in NYC.

[Boojatta]

4. If you think "Those who fail to have sex before 40 are ridiculous", then

you might be an elitist. It all depends on the meaning of the word "elitist."

[hfojvt]

7. Well I myself

failed to have sex before 40, and I think I am ridiculous, so I do not think it is elitist if other people think I am ridiculous too. Who wouldn't?
But it is not total ridiculosity, only in the area of male-female physical relationships.

I copied this from a on-line personality test

"Personal relationships, particularly romantic ones, can be the INTJ's Achilles heel. While they are capable of caring deeply for others (usually a select few), and are willing to spend a great deal of time and effort on a relationship, the knowledge and self-confidence that make them so successful in other areas can suddenly abandon or mislead them in interpersonal situations.

This happens in part because many INTJs do not readily grasp the social rituals; for instance, they tend to have little patience and less understanding of such things as small talk and flirtation (which most types consider half the fun of a relationship). To complicate matters, INTJs are usually extremely private people, and can often be naturally impassive as well, which makes them easy to misread and misunderstand. Perhaps the most fundamental problem, however, is that INTJs really want people to make sense. :-) This sometimes results in a peculiar naivete', paralleling that of many Fs -- only instead of expecting inexhaustible affection and empathy from a romantic relationship, the INTJ will expect inexhaustible reasonability and directness.


INTJ - introverted (78%) intuitive (44%) Thinking (1%) Judging (33%) my scored personality type."

[supernova]

9. I'm the same way

but all in all, when I've wanted attention, I've gotten it. It's just that I rarely do so.

[hfojvt]

11. ah, it is not the same for women

particularly half-way attractive ones. All of my ex-girlfriends, either a)already had kids, or b) quickly found another boyfriend after we broke up, and that includes the one I dumped. Hmmm, on 2nd thought, not Joy, Karen, or Lisa (only one of whom I dated) so there probably are some women who are doomed to singleness and celibacy. Paula too, although both Paula and Lisa turned down my request for a date, so we are not exactly in the same boat. I might have courted Karen too, except that she was too old for me.

[supernova]

12. Well thanks, I think

particularly half-way attractive ones :silly:

I just mean that it's good to concentrate on having friends and acquaintences first.

For INTJs it's a little unnerving to be so competent in some areas, then get to relationships and realize you practically have to start over in the sand box to learn what seems so obvious and automatic to everyone else.

I know that's been true for me.

:hug: for you

[In_The_Wind]

5. I don't think so.

It's mostly about won't somebody please ~~~>

[supernova]

8. No I don't think so

I found The 40 YO Virgin to be quite humane and charming towards the subject. Nobody was mean or derogatory towards him in the movie. The only rotten thing about it was the boss tried to come on to him, but you gotta have tension in a story.

And the resolution was that he has an age-appropriate relationship, with a classy woman, not a bimbette half his age. I.e, he's not really emotioanlly stunted and is capable of being both a lover and a father figure.

[reelcobra]

15. There is nothing more elite possible than managing to not get laid

I was a member of the super elite clique in high school. While pretending to be an akward, bumbling teen, I was actually sailing through school as the president of a club of one.

I was so good at not getting laid that I actually had to go undercover... and pretend I had gotten lucky at a football player's party.

Those were the days.

For those who don't get it

[Boojatta]

16. A movie could be quite humane and charming towards the mentally retarded

but the attitude might nevertheless be: "They are inferior to us. We are the elite. We will be so good as to provide a bit of help to them, but this world is ours and it is primarily for our benefit."