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qnr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-15-06 09:36 PM
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So, watching "Walk The Line" - if Johnny Cash used to admit to using
heroin, years ago - how come they whitewash it in the movie?
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-15-06 09:38 PM
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1. The same reason little ronnie howard nixed the fact that
the dude in "A Beautiful Mind" honked mens' horns too.

Anything deemed undesireable in an esteemed figure is going to be censored or removed.

And "A Beautiful Mind" was sanitized in more ways than one...
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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-15-06 09:40 PM
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2. "A Beautiful Mind" sucked, imo
The only good parts were when Jennifer Connelly was in it.

BTW, I hate Russell Crowe.
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-15-06 09:54 PM
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11. Fascinating
I have exactly the opposite opinion on each of your points.

Bet you hate the Cowboys and like Denver, don't you? :rofl:
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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-15-06 09:55 PM
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12. Hate the Cowboys
Don't really care about Denver! :hi:
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-15-06 09:59 PM
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14. Eh, pretty close though!
:toast:
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ghostsofgiants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-15-06 10:37 PM
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26. I'll second that on all points.
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qnr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-15-06 09:43 PM
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4. Still, they showed the drug use, just not heroin. Those socks were
a regular way of smuggling it in from Mexico, in the wax balls.

And you're right about whats-his-face the mathemetician (If I remember his occupation correctly).
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TheProphetess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-15-06 09:52 PM
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10. I didn't know that
Any more interesting facts that the movie omitted? (I sometimes use that movie in my classes.)
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bliss_eternal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-15-06 10:14 PM
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22. HypnoToad-- How else was Beautiful Mind sanitized?
Edited on Sun Jan-15-06 10:14 PM by bliss_eternal
I've never had much interest in the film so don't worry about spoiling anything...

What I do find interesting are the choices directors make in regard to film and the final product.
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-15-06 09:43 PM
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3. Could it be that just one year ago they did the herion thing with "Ray"
I'm sure they took into consideration that this movie would be following up a year later after "Ray" (The Ray Charles Biopic) hit the theaters and won an Oscar for Jamie Foxx.

You have 2 hours to do a movie which isn't alot of time to cover every quirk of someone being portrayed in a biopic. Now I don't know alot about Cash so I'm not sure when he was doing the herion, if it was the same time as the pills. But I got the impression that this was the early party of career (up until he and June Carter finally married). And knowing that the movie would get plenty of comparisons with "Ray" I suppose it made sense to give Johnny his very own addiction instead of using the same one use the previous year with another "Amazing life-story of a celebrated musician who overcame great addictions to become beloved by all of Ameica" story
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qnr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-15-06 09:44 PM
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5. That's a good point. I never saw the one on Ray Charles, I'd like to
though.
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-15-06 09:46 PM
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6. It's a very good biopic and Foxx deserved an Oscar
I think Joquin is worthy of his nomination too. But if they portrayed heroin instead of the pills it would have simply been a repeat of the "Ray" movie especially since both Ray Charles and Johnny Cash lost a brother in a freak accident back when they were kids.
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qnr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-15-06 09:51 PM
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9. Apparently it is on cable this month - we're going to be watching it
tomorrow.
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johnnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-15-06 09:48 PM
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7. When did Johnny admit that?
I know he loved scripts, but never heard him admitting to smack.
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qnr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-15-06 09:50 PM
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8. That would be television interviews back in the seventies - around the
time that he and June had their TV show.
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-15-06 09:58 PM
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13. I just didn't the director's artistic sense of flow of the metaphorical
theme of the narrative of the film. I guess.

My favorite trivia was that Jouaquin (or however you spell it) wouldn't wear leather, so they had to make vinyl boots for his wardrobe.
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qnr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-15-06 10:06 PM
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15. Wow. Never heard that bit of trivia. My wife tells my that his parents
were members of the Children of God cult, wonder if that has anything to do with that?
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LeftyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-15-06 10:07 PM
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16. no, he's vegan, that's all.
:)
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qnr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-15-06 10:08 PM
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17. I wondered it that might be part of it - and I had a feeling you'd let
me know :hi:
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LeftyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-15-06 10:10 PM
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18. am I getting a reputation or somethin'?
:silly:
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qnr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-15-06 10:11 PM
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19. Yup n/t
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LeftyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-15-06 10:11 PM
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20. just checking
:yoiks:
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-15-06 10:18 PM
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23. The whole Phoenix family was vegan.
From Wikipedia, about River:He and his family were all vegetarians. He believed that eating animals was wrong, though it was younger brother, Joaquin, who, at the age of four, persuaded the family not to eat meat any longer. The family were on a ship from Venezuela to Florida at the time, and Joaquin had seen fisherman killing fish by banging their heads aganst the bulkheads. The family eventually became vegans. His opinions on the issue were so strong that when his actress girlfriend, Martha Plimpton, ordered soft-shell crab at a restaurant, he was reported to have begun to cry in disappointment. When he played the role of Gideon in the TV version of Seven Brides for Seven Brothers, he insisted on using a rope for a belt, steadfastly refusing to wear leather.
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qnr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-15-06 10:24 PM
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24. Nice attitude. I understand his point. I'm perfectly willing to serve
as sustenance for some critter if it needs it that much and it could catch and defeat me. But I have too many generations of omnivorous ancestors behind me to feel bad about using leather. I know that in some respects that makes me a bad person - but its not like I deliberately trip llamas when they spit at me, so I do have some concern for animals.
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-15-06 10:29 PM
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25. I rather like it, myself.
I'm a vegetarian, but not a Vegan, and I have some leather products. I try to avoid them, but when it's not convenient, I don't worry about it. I don't really consider it wrong, so much as less good (not being into perfect dichotomies on right and wrong). But I fully respect Joaquin's values. More than my own, even.
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qnr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-15-06 10:12 PM
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21. And while we're on the subject, what does everyone thing of Reese
Witherspoon's performance as June Carter? Is she looking at an Oscar, like I've heard?
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