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TimeChaser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 12:03 AM
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I read my first Kurt Vonnegut novel over my break
I read Galapagos and I loved it!

Anyone have any specific recommendations for the next one I read?
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 12:07 AM
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1. I've read them all
Dead Eye Dick would be my next recommendation..or read them all in order

here..I'll make ordering it easy for you :D

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0385334176/104-7882061-8999103?v=glance&n=283155
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Parrcrow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 01:34 AM
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6. I think Dead-eye Dick is severly underated
Cat's Cradle would make a good choice for the next one to read as would Sirens of Titan.

Hey, they're all good.
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Mojambo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 12:59 AM
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2. I rather enjoyed Mother Night.
Edited on Wed Jan-18-06 01:05 AM by Mojambo
"We are what we pretend to be, so we must be careful about what we pretend
to be."


Reads very fast.

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CanuckAmok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 03:14 AM
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15. Have you seen the movie?
It was quietly released without much distribution support.

Nick Nolte plays Howard S. Campbell, and I think it's the performance of his life.

If you can find a copy, it's a must-watch.
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Mojambo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 11:55 AM
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21. I was just looking at the entry on Imdb.
I'm definitely going to pick it up.
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CanuckAmok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 12:12 PM
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23. "Howard Campbell" has a cameo in "Slaughterhouse Five", too.
In his tailored baby blue SS uniform with the American Flag armband. I wonder if Dick Cheney has one.
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Common Sense Party Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 01:01 AM
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3. Breakfast of Champions.
Then Slaughterhouse 5.
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democracyindanger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 01:02 AM
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4. Welcome to the Monkey House
Collection of short stories, including one of my all-time favorites, "Report on the Barnhouse Effect."
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Hugin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 11:43 AM
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18. Seconded!
The short story collections are the best!
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CanuckAmok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 12:16 PM
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25. "Thomas Edison's Dog" is my favourite story written by anyone.
It's the height of comedy.
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pokerfan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 01:09 AM
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5. Doesn't matter. They're all good.
Sirens of Titan, perhaps. It retains a character from Galápagos.







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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 02:08 AM
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7. Sirens of Titan kinda threw me
I found Vonnegut because he was in the very, very meager science fiction section of the University library. I read Sirens of Titan and Welcome to the Monkey House and decided that I did not like Vonnegut very much.

Then after I finally graduated and got my first, and only, job I was wandering through the local library and picked up Sirens of Titan and started reading blurbs that I remembered. I found it to be absolutely hilarious and profound at the same time. So I decided to read some more Vonnegut, and loved him so much that I read every book they had of his in that library. Except for Sirens of Titan and Player Piano, Vonnegut is a very fast read.

Anyway, then I re-read Sirens of Titan, and really did not like it. I just thought that was odd, since I loved it as vignettes, but the totality of the story did not amuse or inspire me. I did not like his last book either, I found it to be too pessimistic. Maybe I will goto the library tomorrow and see if they have his new one.
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yellowdogmi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 02:44 AM
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8. Which one talks about the bokonists?
I don't recall but that was my favorite.
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hobo_baggins Donating Member (754 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 02:46 AM
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9. Thats Cats Cradle.
My favorite as well, along with Slaughterhouse 5
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CanuckAmok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 02:52 AM
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10. Mine too! "No damned cat, no damned cradle!"
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CanuckAmok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 02:54 AM
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11. Breakfast of Champions, God Bless You Mr. Rosewater, Cat's Cradle.
Edited on Wed Jan-18-06 03:12 AM by CanuckAmok
Hell, all of 'em.

You'll see some of the same characters passing through the stories: Midland City, Kilgore Trout (Vonnegut's literary alter-ego), Dwane Hoover/Wayne Hoobler, the Maritimo Brothers. Sometimes they're central to the story, and sometimes they're on the periphery.

I like his collection of short stories: "Welcome to the Monkey House", the best, but I think that's because I really enjoy the short-story format.

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CanuckAmok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 02:56 AM
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12. What's the one with the RAMJAC Corporation?
The one where the Chinese have miniaturised themselves, and the US Dollar crashes because RAMJAC is given to the American People?

I tend to re-read the books all at once, so I get the titles and contents mixed-up.
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Parrcrow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 12:08 PM
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22. That's Slapstick
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 03:09 AM
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13. Slaughterhouse Five
(noone had mentioned it)

so it goes
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CanuckAmok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 03:13 AM
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14. And it's,one of those rare books that inspired a faithful movie.
The movie version manages to capture every element of story in the book, and does it well.
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barb162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 01:23 PM
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30. I saw that movie and it was excellent
Never got around to reading the book
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 03:24 PM
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34. it's one of the great books of the last century
IMHO
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dajoki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 01:22 PM
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29. billy pilgrim...
is unstuck in time. i loved it.
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MissMillie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 03:25 PM
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35. DING DING!!! We have a winner!
But I also like Breakfast of Champions.
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Sanity Claws Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 03:31 PM
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38. I missed your message
and recommended it too.
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NNadir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 06:14 PM
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41. Slaughterhouse Five is one of the greatest books ever written in English.
That one work alone should have been worth the Nobel Prize.

Imagine beginning a book (in the second chapter no less) on war with the word/sentence "Listen."
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last_texas_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 11:20 AM
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16. _Mother Night_ or _Jailbird_
_Mother Night_ is written in a very interesting way and will really get to you by the end.

_Jailbird_ has less of a message and is one of his less popular ones, but I found I couldn't really put it down until I finished it.

I still have several of his that I want to read myself.
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tonkatoy57 Donating Member (443 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 11:35 AM
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17. Kudos for finding Vonnegut.
I just finished rereading a collection of Vonnegut novels I found on a bookshelf in my basement. This time around the two that really grabbed me were Slaughterhouse Five and Player Piano.

Slaughterhouse Five is a great anti-war novel with insights about war and the human condition that leap off the page at you. I found myself reaching for a pencil so I could highlight portions so that I could reflect on them at a later time.

Player Piano is a first rate indictment of the corporate system that may be more true and applicable to today's world than it was to the men "in the grey flannel suit" about which Vonnegut originally wrote.
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Jeff In Milwaukee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 11:45 AM
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19. All of them...
I read "Cat's Cradle" when I was thirteen years old.

I haven't been worth a damn ever since.
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Crazy Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 11:52 AM
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20. I read a couple while I was in high school over twenty years ago.
I can't remember which two I read but back then they were a little too deep for me back then to understand, beyond my maturity level at the time. I like to see things 20 plus years later with a sometimes different perspective and more understanding than the previous time.
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Strong Atheist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 12:14 PM
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24. It doesn't matter; they are all weird ... you could read the
one about ice 9, if you want to be depressed ...
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CanuckAmok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 03:05 PM
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32. that's Cat's Cradle.
What is most depressing is that there's a band from where I grew up, who call themselves "Ice 9". So, you'd figure they'd have some interesting music, no?

No. They suck. They're a roadhouse bar-band and they do covers of ZZ Top stuff, etc.
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Strong Atheist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 03:17 PM
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33. Oh, well. I like ZZ top ... nt.
Edited on Wed Jan-18-06 03:19 PM by Strong Atheist
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JitterbugPerfume Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 12:57 PM
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26. Cats Cradle
and Slaughterhouse five

All of Kurt Vonneguts work is superior though

He is my favorite author---or at least one of them
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GrpCaptMandrake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 01:03 PM
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27. I first read "Galapagos" way back in college and found its take
on the end of humanity depressing.

I re-read it a few months ago and found it not at all so.

It's all perspective, I guess.

As for what comes next, I'd recommend "Sirens of Titan." Malachi Constant is a guy for the 21st century.
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CanuckAmok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 03:03 PM
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31. "Sirens" is probably his most personal work, next to Slaughterhouse Five
It was written shortly after his sister's death.
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m_welby Donating Member (508 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 01:14 PM
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28. they're all good.

I have loved vonnegut since I first read cats cradle 30 something years ago.

Player piano is brilliant if somewhat dated (though not in theme)

Cats cradle is brilliant as well, and one of his many end of the world books, along with galapagos and slapstick.

Breakfast of Champions is wonderful, especially if you are turning 50

Slaughterhouse 5 is probably my personal favorite, though.

Since you've started with galapagos, I'd probably recommend that you work your way backward through his work. All of it is rather depressing. Kurt has a dark side, but he is funny and brilliant always.





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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 03:26 PM
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36. 'God Bless You, Mr. Rosewater', Ma'am
Is the best of them in my view....
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Sanity Claws Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 03:29 PM
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37. Slaughterhouse 5
I was surpised no one mentioned it in this thread. I read it about 25 years ago in high school and recall it concerned a WWII who had problems dealing with reality after participating in the firebombing of Dresden. n light of the current war and atrocities, it could remind us all of the psychological problems that our soldiers will face when they return.
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CanuckAmok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 05:31 PM
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39. He didn't have problems with reality, he was UNSTUCK IN TIME!
You think he just made-up Montana Wildhack?!
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Sanity Claws Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 05:48 PM
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40. Of course! Silly me!
Edited on Wed Jan-18-06 05:52 PM by in search of sanity
I don't remember Montana Wildhack. I do remember the main character going back and forth between time and place.
This is a book I must reread!
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