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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 11:18 AM
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So why is NBC calling Turin by "Torino"?
http://www.imdb.com/news/sb/2006-01-20/#tv2

Let's Call the Whole Thing Off?

Some writers are poking fun at NBC's decision to pronounce the name of the host city of the Winter Olympics as Torino rather than the traditional Turin. NBC Sports's Dick Ebersol told the Wall Street Journal that 'Torino' "rolls off your tongue, sounds so Italian, so romantic. ... 'Turin' just doesn't do it for me." But in Thursday's Chicago Tribune, sports columnist Mike Downey, presenting himself as "R.U. Deff," NBC vice president of "verbal affairs," writes in a fictional memo to NBC broadcasters, "Never mind that our viewers are making angry phone calls and sending us nasty e-mails that say: 'Where in the is "Torino?"' I like the sound of it. It's a combination of two of my favorite places, Toronto and Reno. If you ever go to Toronto or Reno, you'll know what I mean. A couple of fun towns.'Turin, ' though, what's that? A soup bowl?" "Deff" then goes on to order that Steven Spielberg's new movie be referred to as "München," not "Munich." "I like that a lot better, don't you? 'München' sounds like fun! 'Munich' ... ick." Meanwhile, the Canadian Broadcasting Corp, has said that it will use 'Turin' when referring to the city but 'Torino' when referring to the Games.
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GOPisEvil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 11:22 AM
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1. We're America and we're right, dammit.
Who cares if those EYE-talians call their city Torino? That's the name of a Ford, and people will wonder why Starsky and Hutch are hosting the Olympics from their car.
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 06:38 PM
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28. turin. who cares if those EYE-talians call their city turin.
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Gormy Cuss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 11:24 AM
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2. It's a decision shrouded in mystery...
Edited on Sat Jan-21-06 11:27 AM by Gormy Cuss
Bad pun attack!:P

I do wonder if it is a marketing decision made in part to disassociate the name with the shroud, because the freaky pseudo-Christians could start a crusade against defiling a holy place.
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bleedingheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 11:59 AM
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8. good one!
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fishwax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 05:34 PM
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25. haha
:rofl:
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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 11:24 AM
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3. Makes me think of this:
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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 02:34 PM
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18. the later ones used a 460ci
but it was a boat anchor, though
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WilmywoodNCparalegal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 11:44 AM
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4. Delete - dupe
Edited on Sat Jan-21-06 11:45 AM by NYCparalegal
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WilmywoodNCparalegal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 11:44 AM
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5. Gaaahh!
Things like this make me want to scream..... Torino IS Turin, you idiotic blowhard a$$hole!

:grr:
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 11:54 AM
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6. So that it will be Grand
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Lavender Brown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 11:56 AM
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7. I can't believe people are actually sending e-mail complaints
Idiots. Do they think Florence is actually called Florence too?
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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 12:12 PM
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9. What do the locals call it?
I think we should call it what they call it.

I'm confused now. Do they say "Turin" or "Torino?"

I know nothing about Italy or Italian, though I'd love to go someday.
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fudge stripe cookays Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 04:56 PM
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23. "Torino"
Edited on Sat Jan-21-06 04:56 PM by fudge stripe cookays
is the Italian name for Turin, like Firenze for Florence or Milano for Milan.

I'm glad it's being called its correct name-- not the Americanized version.
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Burma Jones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 12:14 PM
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10. So everyone isn't obsessed by the "shroud" of Turin...
How much will we hear about that during supposed "sports" coverage......
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huskerlaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 12:33 PM
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11. You mean the shroud of Turino?
:shrug:

Call it whatever the people who actually live there call it. Stupid fucking Americans. "No, no...must make it sound Italian!" Uuuugh.
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Bill McBlueState Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 02:02 PM
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15. as far as I can tell
The inhabitants most likely call it Torino. Turin is the standard English name for it.
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Heidi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 02:06 PM
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16. Yes, Italians call it Torino.
It's not far from us, and it's respectful to call a city by its native name.
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Burma Jones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 03:55 PM
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21. Torino is more fun to say than Turin anyway
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tjwmason Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 04:51 PM
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22. I disagree
Mostly from practical grounds - but are we going to drop Moscow for Maskva, Florence for Firenze, Vienna for Wien, Croatia for Hrvatska, Japan for Nippon, Wales for Cymru?

Many places have long established names in English and to go around trying to change them all would merely be confusing. Besides, the bloodyminded Englishman in me refuses to do so until the French drop Londres in favour of London.

Perhaps it's just the cynical bitchy way that we English tend to see things, but adopting local pronunciations is seen as very affected over here.
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Lavender Brown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 04:56 PM
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24. I agree with you in general
Edited on Sat Jan-21-06 04:56 PM by Lavender Brown
Almost every language alters city names, it's not just an English/American thing. But it seems contrary to the "Olympic spirit" (I feel goofy just saying that :P )to actually insist on the English name for tv coverage.
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SOteric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 06:20 PM
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27. Pardon my tangential reference,
but I picked up a bottle of fragrance in Salzburg, Austria. A lovely floral scent of blossoms native to Vienna and it's surrounding environs. I wanted it just so I could have a frou frou little bottle labeled 'Wiener Bouquet' on my dressing table. :7
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huskerlaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 05:56 PM
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26. Ah ok
I misunderstood the original post then. I thought the native name was Turin.

Definitely go with the natives...Torino it is!
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meow2u3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 02:00 PM
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12. Atsa da talian name (Italians call Turin Torino)
Ima think itsa respectaful to calla Torino by da talian name.
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Heidi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 02:02 PM
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14. Italians aren't the only ones who call it by its correct name. (nt)
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Heidi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 02:01 PM
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13. Because that's the _real_ name of the city.
Just because we Americans prefer to call it by the name we prefer doesn't make it right.
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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 02:11 PM
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17. Torino it is, then
Even though, like I posted above, I mostly associated it with the Ford Torino. :crazy:

Perhaps during the Olympics I can unlearn that.
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FuzzySlippers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 02:42 PM
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19. Durned Eyetalians.
Calling their cities by things other than the Murican names. Just who do they think they are?
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yvr girl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 02:47 PM
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20. The organizing committee is calling themselves Torino
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 06:41 PM
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29. a turin by any other name is a torino?
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FarLeftRage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-21-06 06:56 PM
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30. Well... as my Italian immigrant grandfather so often said
"La gente Americana è muto!"


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