Chinese Horoscopes

[Moochy]

Ok, So you free thinking loungelizards who are into horoscopes, how about the chinese zodiac?
From my limited exposure to the chinese zodiac, gleaned from chinese restaurant placemats, I've determined that unlike the western zodiac, the chinese is based on years. Year of the Monkey year of the Dog, year of the Snake etc.

Do all children of a particular grade level have identical personality traits? How can the mystical influence of the stars exert a steady influence on the fetus, for an entire year in-vitro to form the characteristic "Dog" personality etc.?

On edit: I'm actually interested in the mystical aspect of how this is justified, not some scientific rational critique on horoscopes in general. In other words, how do Chinese astrologist explain this?

[skygazer]

1. Well, I'm a rat

And I went to school with a bunch of rats so apparently it works out.

[Moochy]

2. According to some websites

We are all rats here... ;) I'm a Rooster. cockadoodle doo!!!

[WritingIsMyReligion]

3. I'm a sheep, I think.

Obedient? Me? Naaaaaaaahhhh....

:P :P :P

:scared:

[Moochy]

4. Do these vague compliments fit your self-image?

The Sheep

Sheep are the good samaritans of the Chinese zodiac. They are gentle mannered and on the shy side. Being very sincere they are easily taken by a sob story. Sheep people are compassionate,understanding of others' faults, and quick to forgive.

Sheep like to set their own hours and will not tolerate too much discipline. They are also very offended if they are criticized. They cannot work well under pressure and must be allowed to do things at their own speed. Sheep need somebody to discipline them, though, in order to utilize their talents. They usually find someone to look after and care for them.

http://www.rainfall.com/horoscop/Default.asp?action=showchinese&sign=Sheep&id=13


For once it'd be nice to read a horoscope that called a particular sign a horrible person.
Virgos are all jerks. etc.

[WritingIsMyReligion]

5. HEY!

I'm a Virgo, too! A Virgoan sheep! :D :P :evilgrin:

I guess I'm pretty kind, but I'm also quite independent. I don't LIKE people attempting to discipline me. :D :P

[TimeChaser]

6. Well, Scorpios like me

don't always have nice things said about them.

[Moochy]

7. Thats true

Scorpios are the ones in the Western Zodiac that are probably the ones that get trashed the most.

I bet Scorpios go to astrologers less than the other signs. :evilgrin:

[WritingIsMyReligion]

9. My moon sign is Scorpio.

:evilgrin:

[robbedvoter]

40. Sheep and snakes - great sex! (I'm the snake to confirm it - it's TRUE!)

[Strong Atheist]

8. Dragon, here. No clue as to your question. nt.

[Moochy]

23. Here is your horoscope

from: http://www.rainfall.com/horoscop/dragon.htm

THE DRAGON
Dragon people are balls of fire! They are full of vitality and love of life. Always on the run, they drag their faithful band of admirers behind them. Dragons are egotistical, eccentric, demanding, and giving.

They are proud, direct, and loaded with high ideals which they always try to live up to. Having a zeal for life, they want to live it on a grand scale. They have the potential for accomplishing many great things as long as they don't get too far ahead of themselves. When dragons do something, good or bad, you can be certain their deeds do not go unnoticed! Dragons are always making the news.

It is next to impossible to win an argument with Dragon people.They intimidate anyone who challenges them. Once you arouse their anger, they keep after you for a very long time. Dragons are extremely loyal to friends and family. When really needed they always come to the rescue. They are the first ones to say "I told you so". In spite of being overly emotional, a Dragon is not sentimental or even romantic. They will just take it for granted that everyone loves them. Although they are stubborn and irrational, they are not petty or begrudging with their favors. It is hard for them to hide their feelings. They don't even try.

Not being secretive themselves, they can't be expected to keep a confidence for long; but Dragons speak from the heart and are always sincere. Their manners may seem brusque and too direct, but they merely want to get things moving. Being creatures of action, they motivate others, too. They often get into rushes and fail to see the flaws in a situation.Instead of diving in, Dragons need to learn to check things out better. Dragons need purpose in their lives, causes to fight for, and goals to reach. An uninvolved Dragon is a sad sight indeed.

Dragons consider themselves very strong. They will often bite off more than they can chew. When this happens, they are too proud to ask for help and exhaust themselves. Dragons can do many things well. They may be artists, politicians, doctors, or ministers. When Dragons choose the right profession, they will be successful and devoted. They just can't help winning!

In romance, Dragons are seldom the losers and are usually the ones breaking hearts. Dragons don't marry too young, and many are content and happier living alone. Dragons will always have more than their share of friends and admirers to keep them company. Dragons are really softies and fall apart if they lose their supporters. They dazzle as long as there is someone who believes in them.

[Strong Atheist]

45. Hmmmm..... not sure all of that applies .... nt.

[KitchenWitch]

39. Hey, I am a dragon too!

:hi:

[Strong Atheist]

44. .

:hi:

[Maine-ah]

10. aries-tiger here.

Aries Personality:

The sign of Aries represents the beginning of all things.

People born under this sign do not take kindly to being misunderstood or mistaken for something they are not.

They are spontaneous, frank and open--but can be self- centered and willful.

They view the world with awe and wonder.

They posses the impulses to explore and to be a star and shine.

They demand attention. They have a strong desire to lead.

They are original and idealistic pioneers.

They must beware of self-doubt--it is like poison to them.


The Tiger


Tigers are rebels. They are both colorful and unpredictable. Their energy and love of life are stimulating.They love being the center of attention and never go unnoticed. Tigers are impatient and always look for action.They speak their minds when upset and have suspicious natures.

But in spite of their quick tempers, they are sincere, generous and very affectionate. They also possess a great sense of humor. Tigers like people, involvement,and dedication to humanitarian causes. They seek out adventures, and at certain points in their lives, they will be very rebellious. They must act out some of their ideals and lash out at the wrongs of society. Tigers are so daring that they acquire many admirers. Those who disapprove of what Tigers do still will secretly admire Tigers for their actions.

http://www.rainfall.com/horoscop/Default.asp?action=showchinese&sign=Tiger&id=15

I wonder how my husband puts up with me.

[Moochy]

11. The Lion lies down with the Lamb

Neat combination, It reminds me of this story I saw on BBC news last week:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/1746828.stm
A lioness in central Kenya has baffled wildlife experts by adopting a baby oryx, a kind of small antelope normally preyed upon by big cats.

[Blue-Jay]

18. She just wants to get him fattened up first.

[Moochy]

27. That was my thought too

She was sleeping when her previous domesticated calfs were eaten.

You snooze you loose!

[Shine]

13. Aries Dragon here!!

:hi:

[Skittles]

14. COULD YOU GUESS I AM AN AIRES ???

I KNEW YOU COULD......:D

[Moochy]

29. But But

what about your chinese zodiac? RAM?

[Skittles]

38. I THINK I'M A COCK LOL

:D

[NV Whino]

16. Aires Monkey, here

I wonder how I put up with myself.

[Moochy]

28. Monkey!!

People born in the Year of the Monkey are the erratic geniuses of the cycle. Clever, skillful, and flexible, they are remarkably inventive and original and can solve the most difficult problems with ease. There are few fields in which Monkey people wouldn't be successful but they have a disconcerting habit of being too agreeable. They want to do things now, and if they cannot get started immediately, they become discouraged and sometimes leave their projects. Although good at making decisions, they tend to look down on others. Having common sense, Monkey people have a deep desire for knowledge and have excellent memories. Monkey people are strong willed but their anger cools quickly. They are most compatible with the Dragon and Rat.

[NV Whino]

52. The memory part is getting a little flakey

:)

the rest probably accounts for my checkered career.

[BuelahWitch]

49. I'm a Scorpio-Tiger

[Shine]

12. I am not qualified to discuss the "justification" of chinese astrology

but, I can say, that I find it incredibly fascinating how one's birth year can so clearly match up with certain characteristics of whatever chinese astro sign they are. The chinese astrological calender is based on the moon, btw, NOT the sun, like western astro is.

I am a Dragon, the only Chinese astro animal that is mythical and magical. Yup, that's me. heheh. I also happen to be an Aries, in western astrology. Fire sign. :thumbsup: Very appropriate.

[Moochy]

34. "amusing, but not regarded seriously by the Chinese"

From the page: http://www.c-c-c.org/chineseculture/zodiac/zodiac.html

A site dedicated to chinese culture, it has some answers about the horoscopes:

A cultural sidelight of the animal signs in Chinese folklore is that horoscopes have developed around the animal signs, much like monthly horoscopes in the West have been developed for the different moon signs, Pisces, Aries, etc. For example, a Chinese horoscope may predict that a person born in the Year of the Horse would be, "cheerful, popular, and loves to compliment others". These horoscopes are amusing, but not regarded seriously by the Chinese people.

[Deja Q]

15. Looks like a lot of animal droppings to me...

As with the American zodiac or whatever its designation, it's all a load of bull... and rat... and monkey... and ox.

[Moochy]

20. We agree as to it's accuracy

I think it's the Western zodiac, but who knows. Agreed its horsehockey, but its creative mythical horsehockey!

[La Lioness Priyanka]

17. leo-horse

[Moochy]

24. Horses

Horses are very appealing people. They are warm and friendly and dearly love social atherings with plenty of people. They are perceptive and enjoy talking. They have a high spirited nature and are changeable. This makes them hot-tempered, rash, and headstrong. They are always falling in and out of love. Quick to warm to someone, they are just as quick to lose interest. Here today and gone tomorrow-these are the Horses. Then when you decide not to see them again, here they come ready to pick up where they left off!

[Lady Freedom]

19. Cool! I am a Horse!

I am a Horse and an Aries!

[Moochy]

32. Year of the Horse

People born in the Year of the Horse are popular. They are cheerful, skillful with money, and perceptive, although they sometimes talk too much. The are wise, talented, good with their hands, and sometimes have a weakness for members of the opposite sex. They are impatient and hot-blooded about everything except their daily work. They like entertainment and large crowds. They are very independent and rarely listen to advice. They are most compatible with Tigers, Dogs, and Sheep.

[Radical Activist]

21. I'm a snake

If I'm to believe what it says, it seems a career in politics would be a good idea. Actually, I find the description to be pretty accurate.

[Moochy]

25. Snake Charmers

Snakes are romantic and charming. They are deep thinkers and always mysterious. Snakes are graceful and soft spoken. They love a good book and appreciate all of the arts. They lean towards all of the finer things in life. Snakes trust themselves above all others and are seldom wrong; but behind a sophisticated front,Snakes are very superstitious!

[Jade Fox]

36. Snakes rule!

We are considered one of the darlings of the Chinese Zodiac, second only to Dragons--but hey, they're only mythological creatures and we're real.

[Radical Activist]

37. Cool. I'm also a libra

Which is another sign that lends itself to politics. hmmmm

[robbedvoter]

43. Snake/Cancer here. All the good stuff about us - TRUE!

(and modest too)

[trof]

22. I am the snake.

But then you already knew that, right?

[Moochy]

26. Spare an apple?

That nice crispy apple over there looks mighty appealing. Mmmm tree of knowledge...

[FarLeftRage]

30. Dog/Pisces

So messed up I want you here
And in my room I want you here
And now we're gonna be face to face
And I'll lay right down in my favorite place
Yeah you know what that is

Now I wanna be your dog
Now I wanna be your dog
Now I wanna be your dog
(C'mon) (I wanna be your dog you know it)

Ooh give it to me
Now I'm ready to close my eyes
Yes now I'm ready to close my mind
Now I'm ready to feel your hands
Lose my heart on the burning sand

Now I wanna be your dog
Now I wanna be your dog
Now I wanna be your dog
(C'mon) (I wanna be your dog you know it)

Do it
Yeah that's right

So messed up I want you here
And in my room I want you here
And now we're gonna be face to face
And I'll lay right down in my favorite place
Yeah you know what that is

Now I wanna be your dog
Now I wanna be your dog
Now I wanna be your dog
(C'mon) (I wanna be your dog you know it)

Well come on
I'll be your dog

[Moochy]

31. Where my Dogs at?

People born in the Year of the Dog possess the best traits of human nature. They have a deep sense of loyalty, are honest, and inspire other people¡¦s confidence because they know how to keep secrets. But Dog People are somewhat selfish, terribly stubborn, and eccentric. They care little for wealth, yet somehow always seem to have money. They can be cold emotionally and sometimes distant at parties. They can find fault with many things and are noted for their sharp tongues. Dog people make good leaders. They are compatible with those born in the Years of the Horse, Tiger, and Rabbit.

[FarLeftRage]

35. Shivering his butt in the cold Northeast now

That describes me to a tee... almost.

I know I can be stubborn at times, I am a bit eccentric as well.
I'd rather not be a leader, though.

[bigwillq]

33. I'm a Horse!

:bounce:

[u4ic]

41. Horse - specifically, Fire Horse

:bounce:

[Rabrrrrrr]

42. Like all astrology and horoscopes - it's PURE BULLSHIT

But always entertaining.

[mzteris]

46. You may not be what you think you are

- if your birthday is in January or early February.

It's not by the "calendar" year such as 2005, 2006 - but by the Chinese Year - which changes on Chinese New Year that occurs sometime in January to early February.

For instance, Chinese New Year is January 29th this year. If your child is born today, they are a Rooster (2005), if they are born the 29th or after, then they are a Dog (2006).

[xchrom]

47. aries/horse

horse:

Horses are very appealing people. They are warm and friendly and dearly love social atherings with plenty of people. They are perceptive and enjoy talking. They have a high spirited nature and are changeable. This makes them hot-tempered, rash, and headstrong. They are always falling in and out of love. Quick to warm to someone, they are just as quick to lose interest. Here today and gone tomorrow-these are the Horses. Then when you decide not to see them again, here they come ready to pick up where they left off!

Horses are adventurers at heart, but they do have sharp minds and good abilities for managing money. They are self-reliant and energetic. They love exercise, both mental and physical. Their movements are rapid, yet graceful; their speech is quick, yet elegant. Horses want things their way and they will become aggressive when all else fails. They value their freedom above all else. They are not possessive or jealous of others. Being moody creatures, Horses depend on the feel of things. They possess the ability to improvise while events are in motion and can handle several things at once. Horses find it difficult to unwind. They keep strange hours and suffer from insomnia. When they stop, it is usually from exhaustion. It is hard for them to follow a schedule for they have no respect for routine.They need to keep busy but do best when given a free hand.

Horses are full of new ideas to solve tricky problems. When they have an idea, they want to get right to it. They work around the clock until they finish. Horses want you to come to the point quickly since they don't have time to spare. They will not care if you are blunt, just don't waste their time.

Horses must be allowed to show their emotions. They are hot-blooded, hot-tempered, and impatient,and they will gladly demonstrate. In love, Horses are quite vulnerable. They give up everything for the object of their affections. This causes them trouble since they are such impulsive creatures! They must learn to use caution. If one has a Horse in their house, you can bet the Horse receives most of the attention. Horses like being the hub and have everything revolving about them. In return, they work hard and share with everyone.

Horses don't mind starting over. They maintain their determination and enjoy new successes. They belong in careers where they are surrounded by people. They sway crowds and love being flattered. The willful Horses get into countless predicaments but they bail themselves out. They enjoy fighting their own battles. Colorful and lively, they make many friends. If they could be in several places at once,they would be delighted! Their spirit is restless and searching. Creativity is part of their being.They are talented writers and performers.

aries:

Element: Fire-You see the world through intuition.

Stone: Diamond, Ruby, Emerald, Amethyst

Colors: All shades of red

Attractions: Gemini, Leo, Libra, Scorpio

Motto: I am

Notable people born under the sign of Aries: Leonardo da Vinci, St. Theresa de Avila, Raphael, Jane Goodall, Marlon Brando, Charlie Chaplin, Vincent Van Gogh, J.S Bach, Bette Davis, Hans Christian Anderson.

Personality:

The sign of Aries represents the beginning of all things.

People born under this sign do not take kindly to being misunderstood or mistaken for something they are not.

They are spontaneous, frank and open--but can be self- centered and willful.

They view the world with awe and wonder.

They posses the impulses to explore and to be a star and shine.

They demand attention. They have a strong desire to lead.

They are original and idealistic pioneers.

They must beware of self-doubt--it is like poison to them.

[Fox Mulder]

48. I was born in the year of the dog.

That's all I can tell ya about it. :shrug:

[TheBaldyMan]

50. it is all done by magic

cat/rabbit/hare-scorpio myself

[DS1]

51. Ox, baby! Oxen pseudo-babble follows

The Ox of Chinese Astrology is no bull in a china shop. Steadfast and solid, this powerful Sign is a born leader, being quite dependable and possessing an innate ability to achieve great things. Oxen tend to be plodding and methodical; they approach projects in the step-by-step manner that serves them best, and they never lose sight of their goal. They are tireless workers who are detail-oriented and believe in doing things right the first time.

The world may perceive Oxen as being far too serious or incapable of loosening up. This sturdy sort is less than social by nature and tends to become introverted in a crowd. To make things worse, they can't be bothered with what other people think and prefer to do what makes them feel best. Behind that calm facade, though, lives an Ox who can feel hurt, lonely and unable to connect with others. Friends and family are a great source of comfort to this beast, even if they don't always understand what makes the Ox tick. As a lover, friend, family member or housemate, the Ox makes a wonderfully strong, tender and affectionate companion who is protective and always reliable.

Out in the world, though, Oxen tend to be stubborn, dogmatic, my-way-or-the-highway kind of people who have no concept of when to back down. Oxen don't care to be pushed, especially since they think they're the good guys of the Chinese Zodiac. There is some truth to that theory, since the Ox is smart, trustworthy, caring and honorable. If you need honest, steady and unbiased advice, call on the Ox.

A good lesson for mighty Oxen is to strive to overcome a judgmental nature that keeps them from getting close to others. If they can learn to value their own good qualities, they'll have more room in their hearts to invite others in.

The most compatible match for an Ox is the Snake or the Rooster.

[weeble_wobble]

53. Hi, fellow Ox!

I'm an Ox/Aquarius, talk about a stubborn mix :P