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specimenfred1984 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-23-06 12:47 AM
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So My Neighbor's On The Roof With a Gun...
Yes, this actually happened yesterday. My neighbor across the street buys their kid a BB pistol and the 1st thing the teenager does is climb the roof of the house-for-sale next-door to me and starts shooting at squirrels and pointing the gun at cars and people.

My wife freaks out and we call the police. The kid sees the cops coming and flees. Thirty minutes later the kid strolls down the street with a friend of his, both with guns and they approach the cop who is now at the kid's front door. Both kids have their fingers on the triggers of the BB pistol and the pellet rifle with a scope on it. I'm standing outside watching, waiting for the cop to draw his gun and possibly shoot the kids.

Interesting?

Not to me, I've spent the last 2 days in a rage. Here's the question: the cop on the scene let the kid keep the gun and the kid was out on the street today waving the gun around and pointing it at his friends so where is this scenario leading? Granted, it's just a BB gun that most likely wouldn't seriously hurt anyone but, other people who see this firearm don't know that so, where in the hell is this whole bunch of crap going?
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Crazy Guggenheim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-23-06 12:55 AM
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1. Totally amazed.
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Servotron Donating Member (119 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-23-06 12:57 AM
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2. Well, look at the bright side.....
..At least the little dumbass won't be around to vote for Jenna Bush in 2032.
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specimenfred1984 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-23-06 01:05 AM
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3. I'm Wondering If He'll Make It Past This Week
The kid will probably take the thing to school tomorrow, he had it stuffed in his pants today as cars passed by.

He does sound a lot like a future * voter.
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Oeditpus Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-23-06 01:07 AM
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4. E-mail Focus on the Family
Sounds like this kid could be their new youth icon.
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specimenfred1984 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-23-06 01:10 AM
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6. Good One!
Except it's a single mom, drunk 24/7 and acts like her kid does nothing wrong.

Wait a minute...you're exactly right!
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Oeditpus Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-23-06 01:37 AM
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17. You don't live in Colorado Springs, do you?
Friend of mine there has a neighbor just like that. And that's where Focus on the Family is headquartered. :eyes:
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specimenfred1984 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-23-06 01:54 AM
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23. Virginia, Home of Pat Robertson
where our new Attorney General is a graduate of Pat Robertson's Regent University.

No wonder the police don't care.
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Floogeldy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-23-06 01:09 AM
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5. I loved my BB gun when I was a kid.
I put matchsticks in the barrel and shot locusts. :)
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specimenfred1984 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-23-06 01:13 AM
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7. I Had One Too
and a pellet rifle. I shot at crows in a cornfield to protect the crop, this just keeps getting more interesting doesn't it?

It's a very good point though, it's hard to tell just exactly where this will end up, if anywhere.
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Floogeldy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-23-06 01:14 AM
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9. The only danger I recall hearing about . . .
. . . is law enforcement shooting kids they think have a gun.

:shrug:
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-23-06 01:30 AM
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14. We used to shoot toothpicks at each other from a pump pellet gun.
It was a Ben Franklin, too, so there was some serious power. I got a toothpick stuck pretty far in my calf once. Damn, that hurt. Those were the days. Not as fun as the firecracker battles we used to have. Ever watch someone dance as you fired a roman candle at them, or hear the screams as you set off a bottlerocket in an enclosed treehouse?

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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-23-06 01:13 AM
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8. A little kid here in my city was killed with a BB gun several years ago
Some kid was shooting at squirrels and a 2 year old was hit and she died.
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specimenfred1984 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-23-06 01:17 AM
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10. The Police Said the Same Thing
There's a baby next door to the house where the kid was on the roof. The cop said "what if the BB ricocheted and hit the baby?"

The kid with the gun was not impressed as evidenced by him waving the gun around today.
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Crazy Guggenheim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-23-06 01:19 AM
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11. BLOW HIS ASS AWAY!!
:popcorn: :popcorn:
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specimenfred1984 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-23-06 01:29 AM
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13. Believe Me, I Thought of That
Unfortunately. That's what so frikken bizarre about this whole thing, I've gone from kid-lover to kid-wannabe-killer and back to kid-lover in the matter of a few seconds.

It's really kind of hilarious, which is why I posted it in the lounge.
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Oeditpus Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-23-06 01:59 AM
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26. If you were in Florida, you could test their stupid new law
But I'd say this kid's liable to meet such a fate no matter what state he's in.
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realisticphish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-23-06 01:22 AM
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12. bb guns are NOT TOYS
now, i have absolutely no problem with kids having them; i did, when i was a kid. But no parent should buy their kid a bb gun without teaching them gun safety, just like if they had bought a real gun.
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-23-06 01:32 AM
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15. They can put your eye out! nt.
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Floogeldy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-23-06 01:47 AM
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20. They can also make a red bump on your cousin's belly . . .
Edited on Mon Jan-23-06 01:49 AM by Floogeldy
. . . when shot at point blank range.

:evilgrin:
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-23-06 01:50 AM
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22. Actually
I know that to be true.
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Floogeldy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-23-06 01:56 AM
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24. I hope you were not the recipient.
In my case, I ran like hell and my cuz chased me until he came upon an axe and flung it at my legs. Fortunately, he missed.

:evilfrown:
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-23-06 02:02 AM
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27. You didn't live in Mississippi or Alabama, did you?
Cause I've got a few eerily similar stories.

And I've delt and received BB gun wounds. Even shot myself once, just to prove I'd do it. I proved it, too. Proved I was an idiot!
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Floogeldy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-23-06 02:10 AM
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28. LOL
Oklahoma. ;)
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-23-06 02:21 AM
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31. Related only by redneckedness, I guess
:-)

One of my friends in Mississippi lived in the Kiln, which is where Brett Favre grew up. Pure sticks, everybody was as redneck as Favre. So this friend and I used to shoot each other with BB guns, and with toothpicks fired out of pellet guns. We used to shoot fireworks at each other. Roman candles, bottle rockets, whizzers, stuff like that. He built this treehouse in the woods, where no adult could really see it, and we used to have all kinds of battles from that treehouse. One group would be in, the other out. We'd throw pine cones, shoot BBs, throw firecrackers. I made two ingenious contributions: One, I discovered that if you ripped the stick off a bottle rocket and hummed it through a window, the darn thing would whiz around before exploding. Two, those little whizzers that fly around like little flying saucers could by stuck into a crack in the floorboards and lit, and it would zing around inside, too. It wouldn't explode, but it made a neat whirring noise.

Of course, the downside was once I used these great tricks, everyone learned them, and I would eventually wind up in the treehouse.

Anyway, on one of these battles, a cousin of my friend was visiting from Alabama. So we had some BB battles, and some fireworks battles, and this poor guy was terrified. My friend wasn't the type to back down, so he kept pushing. Finally, after one too many bottle rockets in the treehouse, Cuz jumped out of it, in tears, and started swinging his fists at my buddy, who probably could have taken Brett Favre in a fight without much trouble. Since the fist swinging brought only laughter, little Cuz picked up and ax and started swinging. My friend ran off, laughing the whole time, but a couple of those blows came really close. Really, really close.

None of this stopped us. When we finished laughing and peeing in the woods, we just switched places and went on with the battle again!

How we all survived... :shrug:
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Floogeldy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-23-06 02:28 AM
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34. I'm glad you survived.
Thanks for sharing those incredible childhood memories. :)
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specimenfred1984 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-23-06 02:28 AM
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35. We Used to Have Rock Fights in Forts
which led up to "boxing" matches with socks on our hands stuffed with whatever we could find. Two days later, we stopped fighting each other all together as none of us could even lift our badly bruised arms.

We all survived. None of us ever walked up to cops with our finger on the trigger of a gun though.
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-23-06 02:36 AM
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37. Yeah, no cops out in the woods.
I had another friend who almost got shot while trying to catch a beer, but that's another story. When you're drunk, and a cop tells you to keep your hands where he can see them, DO NOT suddenly grab for a beer you are hiding between your feet just because it fell over.

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histohoney Donating Member (584 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-23-06 01:37 AM
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16.  my mom
Edited on Mon Jan-23-06 01:39 AM by histohoney
grew up on a ranches in New Mexico and Colorado with guns and rifles around. The one thing she would not allow any of us to do with even a toy cap gun was point it at ANY one. Cap gun. BB or real shot gun, she would first take the gun then pound your butt if she caught you doing something reckless with it.
If your going to give your kid a gun of ANY kind, you need to drill in the seriousness of a gun first. Sounds like you have some lazy parents mixed with thoughtless teenager. What a bad mix, I hope and pray for you and your towns safety.

(grammar fix)
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specimenfred1984 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-23-06 01:45 AM
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19. I Hear Ya
I've been thinking the same thing. I warned the other parents on my street, only to find out the people who own the house-for-sale had already called them.

It's a dangerous situation that the police are, at the moment, powerless to do anything about. They told me they could only do something if another call came in. That call just might be too late and I told them that.

This is one bizarre situation.



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CC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-23-06 01:41 AM
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18. I have decided that some parents really
Edited on Mon Jan-23-06 01:42 AM by CC
do not want to have kids, so they buy them anything they can to get rid of them. BB guns,and yes I bought one for my son but he had RULES and would of lost it if he had broken them. Like shooting small animals. Luckily I raised him to love small helpless things and he only shot at a target on a hay bale. We have a family down the road that is trying hard to kill their kids. First 4 wheelers on a road with dump trucks and since Christmas on pocket rockets (small 3 year old size motorbikes) flying up and down the road all hours, no headlights and in the blind spot of a bike. I figure if the kids survive to have their own kids, the parents will be very sorry when the kids realize they were trying to kill them. :shrug: If he takes the gun to school, he may live but the parents will be paying for private school or home schooling until he is of age to quit since he will be expelled. Would serve them right to be stuck 24/7 with what they have created or pay through the nose to school them.


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specimenfred1984 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-23-06 01:48 AM
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21. I Thought the Same Thing
and I thought the kid might want out too. When a kid or anybody walks up to a cop with their finger on the trigger of a gun, you've gotta wonder.
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barb162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-23-06 01:58 AM
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25. It sounds like you need to call the cops again
Edited on Mon Jan-23-06 01:59 AM by barb162
and say the first report/ cop visit didn't do the trick. They will be more assertive this next time with that parent. Plus the kid has to be breaking the law about cruelty to wild animals. That would be very against the law in my town
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Floogeldy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-23-06 02:12 AM
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29. Bad idea
The cops might think the kid has a real gun and empty their clips into him.
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specimenfred1984 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-23-06 02:17 AM
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30. I Wanted to Today
My wife said she'd had enough for the weekend. I ran a whole shitload of scenarios by her but it came down to this: we think the cops would still do nothing but give the kid another "talking to".

When we drove up our driveway today, the kid yelled some crap at us while he was out skateboarding. I wanted to break his neck right then and there. Then, a few minutes later he was waving the gun around in the street. It left me in the position of vigilanteism or just waiting. The question is, waiting for what? Waiting for it to just go away or waiting for it to escalate are the only 2 options.

Both options suck.
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Floogeldy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-23-06 02:22 AM
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32. You really wanted to break a kid's neck for yelling?
Fascinating.
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specimenfred1984 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-23-06 02:29 AM
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36. Knowing That He Had a Gun, Yes
Ever had a gun pointed at you or your wife?

It's not a very kid-like experience.
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specimenfred1984 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-23-06 02:38 AM
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38. And Another Thing...
Why is it that some people just can't help but be insulting?

Maybe you can tell me all about this kid as you're an expert on human behavior.
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DanCa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-23-06 02:27 AM
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33. Every News years eve we have a guy that shoots his gun off.
I wonder where the bullett is going to land.
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Indy_Dem_Defender Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-23-06 03:54 AM
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39. Take the thing
from the little shit :mad:

The Police will believe an adult especially over a kid who they know has been waving the thing around in the past, if anything serious happens. I can't stand little thug shits like this, I wish I lived in your neighborhood, I would take it from him and whip him with it. I don't want to sound like someone who acts like a hardass in this post, I've had to deal with stuff like this in two different neighborhoods I've lived in. First when I was in HS, some kid would steal gas out of car gas tanks in the neighborhood. Darwin took care of him he was riding his motorcycle hit a tree and decapitated his head. No one knew who was stealing gas, but it stopped after this happen everyone put 2 and 2 together that he did it. At my current residence, some kid was shooting car tires flat with a BB gun, happened to quite a few neighbors including me. I was victim of two tires on my main car and and all four on my secondary car. I had them all replaced cost like 300 dollars out of my own pocket. This all happened over a couple weeks the tire shooting in the neighborhood. One night my dog was barking like crazy, I look out see a shadow in the driveway. I run out shadow starts running I chase after him, being out of shape, I some how keep up hit about 200 feet down the road. I'm able to tackle him from behind. This kid falls face first splat on the concrete from having my full weight landing on him. I cut open both my elbows and my jeans are ripped on both knees bleeding. I get up look at me knees, this kid gets up and starts running like a maniac, there's no way I could keep running with my knees cut open so I don't even try. The next day there 6 inch blood stain on the road, not from me cause I wasn't bleeding that much, more of that stinging & Buring feeling on my cuts. Never had another problem with tires being shot out on the street after that.
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