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Oeditpus Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-23-06 03:57 AM
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Why I love baseball
Summarized so eloquently by the writers of "Field of Dreams" and delivered in the same fashion by the great orator James Earl Jones:

The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been baseball. America has rolled by like an army of steamrollers. It has been erased like a blackboard, rebuilt and erased again. But baseball has marked the time. This field, this game — it's a part of our past, Ray. It reminds of us of all that once was good and it could be again.
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-23-06 04:06 AM
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1. you're so cute
...and I bet you smell like leather balm and grease and all those good things boys wore before Axe.
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Oeditpus Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-23-06 04:07 AM
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2. And Neatsfoot oil
:hi:
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Archae Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-23-06 06:12 AM
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3. Classic George Carlin on Baseball and Football
Baseball and Football

by George Carlin

Baseball is different from any other sport, very different. For instance, in most sports you score points or goals; in baseball you score runs. In most sports the ball, or object, is put in play by the offensive team; in baseball the defensive team puts the ball in play, and only the defense is allowed to touch the ball. In fact, in baseball if an offensive player touches the ball intentionally, he's out; sometimes unintentionally, he's out.

Also: in football,basketball, soccer, volleyball, and all sports played with a ball, you score with the ball and in baseball the ball prevents you from scoring.

In most sports the team is run by a coach; in baseball the team is run by a manager. And only in baseball does the manager or coach wear the same clothing the players do. If you'd ever seen John Madden in his Oakland Raiders uniform,you'd know the reason for this custom.

Now, I've mentioned football. Baseball & football are the two most popular spectator sports in this country. And as such, it seems they ought to be able to tell us something about ourselves and our values.

I enjoy comparing baseball and football:

Baseball is a nineteenth-century pastoral game.
Football is a twentieth-century technological struggle.

Baseball is played on a diamond, in a park.The baseball park!
Football is played on a gridiron, in a stadium, sometimes called Soldier Field or War Memorial Stadium.

Baseball begins in the spring, the season of new life.
Football begins in the fall, when everything's dying.

In football you wear a helmet.
In baseball you wear a cap.

Football is concerned with downs - what down is it?
Baseball is concerned with ups - who's up?

In football you receive a penalty.
In baseball you make an error.

In football the specialist comes in to kick.
In baseball the specialist comes in to relieve somebody.

Football has hitting, clipping, spearing, piling on, personal fouls, late hitting and unnecessary roughness.
Baseball has the sacrifice.

Football is played in any kind of weather: rain, snow, sleet, hail, fog...
In baseball, if it rains, we don't go out to play.

Baseball has the seventh inning stretch.
Football has the two minute warning.

Baseball has no time limit: we don't know when it's gonna end - might have extra innings.
Football is rigidly timed, and it will end even if we've got to go to sudden death.

In baseball, during the game, in the stands, there's kind of a picnic feeling; emotions may run high or low, but there's not too much unpleasantness.
In football, during the game in the stands, you can be sure that at least twenty-seven times you're capable of taking the life of a fellow human being.

And finally, the objectives of the two games are completely different:

In football the object is for the quarterback, also known as the field general, to be on target with his aerial assault, riddling the defense by hitting his receivers with deadly accuracy in spite of the blitz, even if he has to use shotgun. With short bullet passes and long bombs, he marches his troops into enemy territory, balancing this aerial assault with a sustained ground attack that punches holes in the forward wall of the enemy's defensive line.

In baseball the object is to go home! And to be safe! - I hope I'll be safe at home!
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-23-06 08:21 AM
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6. Thanks for the George Carlin take.
I agree. Baseball is the game I like best for most reasons that are pointed out.
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-23-06 03:34 PM
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18. That's brilliant! LOL! nt
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Kingofalldems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-23-06 07:17 AM
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4. 'I've loved baseball since.....
Arnold Rothstein fixed the World Series in 1919.'------Hyman Roth
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ScreamingMeemie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-23-06 07:20 AM
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5. My father refuses to watch anymore. And this is a man who, as a boy,
stood for hours at the fence in Milwaukee...waiting for the Braves to walk by so he could get autographs...and later with his sons, sneaking down to the locker rooms at County Stadium...trying to get Hank Aaron's autograph (they were eventually successful) He says, and I have to go with him, that it isn't even the same damned game anymore. Not since the strike. America was duped by fake homerun competitions and the like.
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Archae Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-23-06 09:12 AM
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7. I'm pissed off at the &*%$# Brewers big time.
1. I used to work at County Stadium, during the 1981 and 1982 season.
(Beer tender)
And yes, I worked the World Series games there.
It tore my heart out when County Stadium was torn down, and that worker-killing, taxpayer-screwing monstrosity "Miller Stadium" was built.

2. Some of the Brewers joined and advocate, a militant "pro-life" program run by the "American Life League."

3. The Brewers have SUCKED since 1982. :mad:
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bothwell Donating Member (43 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-23-06 09:39 AM
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8. UK Coverage
I love baseball and therefore FOD, we dont get much coverage here but I have now subscribed to a US sattelite channel which means I get all the baseball I need in the summer. Dont get Basketball at all, lots of tall guys run up to one end of the court and score then the other team does the same and at the ned its 103-101, but then I love cricket which could be called somewhat esoteric
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RevCheesehead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-23-06 09:42 AM
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9. me too, Archae - -
me, too. :(
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ScreamingMeemie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-23-06 03:13 PM
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13. It's because I moved in 82...you know.
:hug:. I loved County Stadium. "Hello Bambi, well hello Bambi..it's so good to have you back where you belong....."

sniffle. I miss my Grandpa. :cry:
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Oeditpus Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-23-06 03:03 PM
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11. It isn't so much the game that's changed
as the way it's marketed. Problem is, that's changed to almost a nightmarish degree, and a lot of fans — and former fans — can't see beyond that.

There are still 90 feet between the bases and it's still 60 feet, 6 inches from the pitcher's rubber to the front edge of the plate, from which it's still another 17 inches to the point at the rear. Strike zones vary by a few inches on the vertical, but the plate's still 17 inches wide, too. Fences were pulled in during the '60s and '70s, but they're farther away in more modern stadia with generally higher walls, and you can tell one ball park from another now.

A good individual season is still a .300 average with 30 homers and 100 RBI, and despite the homer mania of a few years ago, there still aren't many players who reach those numbers. It's different with pitching; a 15-win season is the 20-win season of not so long ago, but that's because of better relievers, not less-effective starters. (And when you invest millions in a guy, you don't want to blow out his arm by having him pitch 250 innings a year — though I certainly admire the pitchers who did.)

It's still "Strike three!" and "Ball four" and there are still three outs in an inning, and they're as hard (or as easy) to get as they ever were.

And fans still root, root, root for the home team.

No one was "duped" by steroid-induced homers any more than they were duped by the 1919 World Series. Knowledgable fans back then knew something was wrong after only two games, and when all was said and done they demanded action — which came largely in the form of an odd-looking man named George Herman Ruth.

Baseball has always re-invented itself when necessary, and the beauty of that has been that it's always turned out to be the same old game we've adored for 140 years.
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ScreamingMeemie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-23-06 03:11 PM
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12. Yes they were....after the strike, those stands should have remained
as empty...and they didn't, because of stupid home run races and the like. I'm going with my 63 year old Dad, who practically cried for the loss of the game. :hi: Never will be the same game again, in his eyes or mine. I really wanted to see those replacement players play. THEY were having fun.
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azmouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-23-06 09:45 AM
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10.  I love baseball too!
Drives the poor hubby crazy but I rarely miss a game during the summer.
Gooooo Dbacks! :-)
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SaveElmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-23-06 03:15 PM
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14. Right on Dude...
Love that movie!!! That expresses why baseball endures very well!!!

Ken Burn's Baseball is also a masterpiece as well
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StaggerLee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-23-06 03:17 PM
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15. We have a single A club in town
So I don't have to travel all the way to the D to see my beloved Tigers. Sure they're bums. But they're MY bums!

:hi:


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KitchenWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-23-06 03:29 PM
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17. Cool
I want to take in a bunch of minor league games this summer...That is my plan.

I live near the train that can take me to the Metrodome, but I want to see some outdoor baseball this summer.
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StaggerLee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-23-06 03:54 PM
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19. Awesome
There's a lot to be said about watching a lot of youngsters playing their hearts out, most of them knowing that they probably won't ever see the bigs...

Good God, spring can't come soon enough for me.

:hi:

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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-23-06 03:22 PM
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16. Absolutely, OR!
Safeco Field has a lot of quotes around it from players, literature, etc. This is one of them. Spring training's getting closer!!!!!! :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo:
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rurallib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-23-06 04:21 PM
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20. Used to absolutely love baseball until that strike,
It wasn't the strike but the aftermath. 50+ homers by guys who could barely lift a bat. And the length of games, seldom less than 3.5 hours with tons of commercials. When Brady Anderson hit 50 homers I pretty much quit watching. We do go to some minor league games.
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Oeditpus Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-23-06 06:16 PM
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21. The average length of a major-league game
has dropped from 2:58 in 2000 to about 2:47 in the NL and 2:44 in the AL.

In the four seasons since Barry Bonds' ridiculous 73-homer year, only three players have hit 50 or more in a season. And since baseball finally has rules against steroid use, we're not likely to see the outrageous homer mania of the late '90s again, thank Dog.
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mac56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-23-06 06:25 PM
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22. thank you
Edited on Mon Jan-23-06 06:26 PM by mac56
Well, beat the drum and hold the phone - the sun came out today!
We're born again, there's new grass on the field.
A-roundin' third, and headed for home, it's a brown-eyed handsome man;
Anyone can understand the way I feel.

Oh, put me in, Coach - I'm ready to play today;
Put me in, Coach - I'm ready to play today;
Look at me, I can be Centerfield.

Well, I spent some time in the Mudville Nine, watchin' it from the bench;
You know I took some lumps when the Mighty Casey struck out.
So Say Hey Willie, tell Ty Cobb and Joe DiMaggio;
Don't say "it ain't so", you know the time is now.

Oh, put me in, Coach - I'm ready to play today;
Put me in, Coach - I'm ready to play today;
Look at me, I can be Centerfield.

Yeah! I got it, I got it!

Got a beat-up glove, a homemade bat, and brand-new pair of shoes;
You know I think it's time to give this game a ride.
Just to hit the ball and touch 'em all - a moment in the sun;
(pop) It's gone and you can tell that one goodbye!

Oh, put me in, Coach - I'm ready to play today;
Put me in, Coach - I'm ready to play today;
Look at me, I can be Centerfield.

Oh, put me in, Coach - I'm ready to play today;
Put me in, Coach - I'm ready to play today;
Look at me, I can be Centerfield.

Yeah!
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