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SCRUBDASHRUB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-23-06 09:11 PM
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Need some advice. Oy vey!
I got a call about 20 minutes ago from the hair salon where I go. Apparently, my hairdresser, who was in the process of going through a nasty divorce and has 2 young kids, lost her soon-to-be-ex in an accident on Saturday. The person who called is another hairdresser there who has known her for a long time.

She called to tell me this, but said my hairdresser doesn't know she was calling her clients. In fact, she said, my stylist would probably be horrified to know she was doing this as she's very "proud."

The intent of the call, aside from saving me embarassment of asking how things were going the next time I go in, it seemed was for the chick to solicit money. She said my hairdresser has no insurance (actually, I recall her telling me she did) and has "no money" period. She said the obit that is to appear in tomorrow's paper is going to have a memorial fund set up for the kids, but said the salon is collecting money and if I wanted I could "write a check and bring it by" and write it out to her (the lady who called). She also mentioned when the viewing and funeral was going to be, if I wanted to attend.

I've been going to my stylist for about 4 years and am friendly with her, but we don't socialize outside the salon. I feel really terribly for her and her family. I talked to my mom about this (as a sounding board), and she said it was really nervy of the lady to call me, asking for money. It's not, after all, as if she's a friend of mine; I'm a client, is what she said.

What would you do? I'm inclined to send a card and maybe give a little to the kids' fund. Hubby said a card is plenty.

I'm feeling perplexed here.
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KitchenWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-23-06 09:13 PM
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1. Give to the memorial fund for the kids
Do NOT give the other stylist money...it sounds like a scam to me.
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SCRUBDASHRUB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-23-06 09:13 PM
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2. Yeah, she was asking for me to make it out in her name. I don't
think so.
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KitchenWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-23-06 09:14 PM
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3. That is what clued me in ...
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SCRUBDASHRUB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-23-06 09:15 PM
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5. Mom was saying she would be inclined to change stylists.
She went to one who asked clients to pay for rose bushes for her garden when one of her relatives died. I think my stylist could use the support, so I don't want to change (plus, I like the way she does my hair). Someone needs to put a leash on the other chick though. I think her intentions were good, but she's got chutzpah.
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Lars39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-23-06 09:14 PM
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4. It sounds like a scam.
Especially with the woman saying to "write the check out to me".
If you feel the urge to donate, ask the lady herself if she could use some help.
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SCRUBDASHRUB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-23-06 09:16 PM
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7. I'm gonna check the obit in tomorrow's paper. I don't like
the idea of writing it out to the other lady. I don't know where it's going; at least w/ the memorial fund, I know it'll be going to the right place.
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bleedingheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-23-06 09:16 PM
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6. That was entirely inappropriate.
I don't know how well you know this woman but for her boss to call you and ask you to write out a check to her...on behalf of the other woman...well that sounds like a scam.

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SCRUBDASHRUB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-23-06 09:18 PM
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8. Not her boss, but that's not the point. Upset me to hear about
Edited on Mon Jan-23-06 10:03 PM by SCRUBDASHRUB
the news; took me aback when she was asking for $. She said I could go by the stylist's house and bring food. I'm not THAT close. It's weird. Plus, it's not like I'm made of money or anything. I'm puzzled by this. I feel like I'm being guilted into giving.
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SCRUBDASHRUB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-23-06 09:25 PM
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9. Saw the story in the paper just now. He was driving a pickup
truck early Sunday morning (about 4 am) when he lost control of it, ran off the road and slammed into a tree. Yikes.
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bleedingheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-23-06 10:46 PM
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10. It does sound like you are being guilted into giving...
It is sad to hear about what happened but I still think it is a really weird situation to be placed in...especially for someone you don't know that well.

The same gal has been cutting my hair for years but hell..I have a hard time remembering her name because I sometimes don't get my hair cut that often...(4 mos intervals or longer)
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SCRUBDASHRUB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-23-06 11:00 PM
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11. It is a weird situation.
I've followed this stylist from one salon to the next, but it's not like she's a relative or anything, though we do enjoy each other's company (we're the same age). I go every 4 weeks (get my hair dyed).

We talk about a lot of shit (health stuff, etc.), but we don't socialize outside of the salon. I think I'm going to write her a card; then maybe write a check in the amount of $18 to the kids' fund if I decide to do that. Eighteen is "chai" which is the 18th letter of the Hebrew "aleph bet" and means "life." It's symbolic.
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Whoa_Nelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-23-06 11:15 PM
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12. Hope when you do see you stylist
along with your sympathies and condolences, you mention that you were glad to see in the obit where to donate for her kids because you had a very strange call asking you to make checks out to Xxxxxx, and you wanted to make sure her kids would be the ones who benefited from it.
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SCRUBDASHRUB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-24-06 08:40 AM
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13. Love the Beatles, btw!
I wrote to a Miss Manners of sorts on the web last night, asking for advice, and got an answer already (answer below):

Subject: Hairstylist lost soon-to-be ex-husband; friend who works there calls to ask for money

Question -
I've been going to my stylist for about 4 years and am friendly with her, but we don't socialize outside the salon.

I got a call at home this evening from the hair salon where I go every four weeks. Apparently, my hairdresser lost her soon-to-be-ex-husband in an automobile accident on Saturday. The person who called is another hairdresser there who has known her for a long time.

The intent of the call, aside from saving me embarassment of asking how things were going the next time I go in, was to solicit money. She said my hairdresser has no insurance (actually, I recall her telling me she did) and has "no money, period." She said the obit that is to appear in tomorrow's paper is going to have a memorial fund set up for the kids, but said the salon is collecting money and if I wanted, I could "write a check and bring it by" and make it out to her (the lady who called). She also mentioned when the viewing and funeral was going to be, if I wanted to attend.

The woman who called said my hairdresser doesn't know she was calling her clients. In fact, she said, my stylist would probably be horrified to know she was doing this as she's very "proud."

Naturally, I feel terribly for my stylist and her family.

I talked to my mom about this (as a sounding board), and she said it was really nervy of the lady to call me, asking for money. It's not, after all, as if my stylist is a friend of mine; I'm a client. My husband said a card is plenty.

I'm inclined to send a card or write a personal note and maybe give a little (what I can) to the kids' fund. I don't feel comfortable writing a check out to the woman who called.

Help! Your advice is very much appreciated.

Thank you.

Answer:

Amanda Gamble Answers -
Dear Valarie,
Yes,of course you feel badly for your stylist,anyone
would in such a circumstance. Your husband is correct,
a note expressing your sympathy is exactly the right
thing to do given your relationship with the woman.

It is a business relationship,not a personal one,as
you say. Even if she were a friend outside of the salon,
you still would not be obligated to do anything more than
express your condolences. Flowers and charitable donations
are nice,but never required.

Now,as to this woman who took it upon herself to call
all of you,I am suspicious. Nothing adds up for me. By
claiming the bereaved would be embarrassed,she's insuring
your silence. No one will bring it up to the stylist and
expose Stylist 2's plan. My alarm bells went off with
'make the check out to me'. Best case scenario Stylist 2
gets the credit for giving so generously,worst case,she
pockets the money herself. You made the check out to her,
odds are low anyone would see that it went where it was
supposed to or pursue legal action if it didn't.( go where
it was supposed to.) I know this is horrible to suspect a
person of wrongdoing,but scam artists look for opportunity.
Funeral homes make a fortune selling items and services to
people in a fragile state,after all. Things they don't
truly need. Alarm bell 3 or 4 is that you recall Stylist 1
saying that she DID have insurance,etc..

NOW. We've established that you won't be writing a check
to Stylist 2 anytime soon. If the nervy one dares to follow
up say 'Yes,you mentioned something about that,thank you.
There was an address in the paper as well. My husband and
I have already done what we thought was appropriate.'
(What you think is appropriate is sending a note and no more.) No lies in that statement but it closes the matter to further discussion with her.

Best regards,
Amanda Gamble

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SCRUBDASHRUB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-24-06 09:19 AM
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14. I'm thinking of calling the salon and telling the Owner what happened.
Is this catty? I have a feeling she's unaware of what Stylist #2 is up to and my stylist may lose clients because of it.
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Whoa_Nelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-24-06 09:06 PM
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15. Liked the answer from the Miss Manners type you wrote to
And if it bugs you, bring it up with the owner or your stylist.
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TallahasseeGrannie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-24-06 09:10 PM
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16. My first thought
is that she is taking advantage of the situation. Her friend might get some of the money, but with no accountability maybe not all.

Give to the kid's fund, send a card.
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bertha katzenengel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-24-06 09:18 PM
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17. Don't give to the woman who called. Don't even talk to her.
None of her biz, beyond making you aware of the loss suffered by this person who serves you so well.

If you're inclined to give, wait until the obit is out and follow its instructions for donating to the fund. Then send a card to your hairdresser.

:hi: Good luck w/ your decision.
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SCRUBDASHRUB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-24-06 09:34 PM
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18. Thanks, you guys. I have a box of nice, blank cards with matching
Edited on Tue Jan-24-06 09:35 PM by SCRUBDASHRUB
envelopes, and I wrote a personal note and was going to mail it to her and the kids in a couple of days (husband beat me to it; had to mail a couple of things and took it with him). I also signed the on-line guest book for the obit.

I'm definitely not going to give one dime to the woman who called. I may give to the kids' fund that was listed in the obit, but it'll have to be after I get paid next. I was lucky to have been able to afford the co-payment for my dr's appt. this afternoon!?

I totally agree about the part of the rest of the situation "not being my business beyond making me aware of the loss." Everyone I've talked to has said the woman who called lacked tact.

I appreciate you all lending an ear to me. Aren't people "a trip"?!



But, I'll watch MSNBC for Keith!
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