Attention Grammar Police

[DanCa]

Just some information On parkinson's from young onset Parkinson's association.
The website is www.yopa.org

Dyskinesia: abnormal involuntary movement

Slowness of movement
This is the most disabling symptom. Initially, it often begins in one arm with a loss of manual dexterity. The slowness makes it difficult to get out of a chair or turn in bed. Fine movements such as buttoning clothing, handwriting, and using a fork or knife may become difficult. Later, the person appears to be in slow motion and if not treated may become virtually frozen like a statue. Because of the enormous energy it takes to overcome slowness the person with Parkinson's often complains of being "weak" although there is not true muscular weakness.

Tremor
Tremor occurs in about two-thirds of people with Parkinson's and is often the most visible and obvious sign of the disease. While the Parkinson's tremor usually affects the hands and feet it sometimes involves the lips, tongue, and jaw. The tremor is more visible while at rest or while walking and will usually stop during movement of the hand.

Muscle stiffness
Stiffness combined with slowness may cause aching muscles and joints, especially in the shoulders. This is sometimes misinterpreted as "arthritis" or "bursitis."


I know leave you to your regular hobby of trashing and correcting my grammar. Have a nice day.
:mad: :sarcasm:

[ScreamingMeemie]

1. DanCa....some people are so anal retentive it makes their eyes brown.

:hug: Worry not. I can always understand you. :hi:

[democracyindanger]

47. A proper ellipsis is composed of three periods, not four.

:evilgrin:

[ContraBass Black]

51. It's four if it includes the termination of a sentence,

Which is not the case here.

[Gormy Cuss]

52. What kind of uptight grammar cop uses an ellip-whatever-sis?

Everybody knows {snip} is correct, you elitist moran.
:evilgrin:

[NMMNG]

2. Rest assured Dan,

I'm not among them. :hug:

[DanCa]

3. I never thought that for a second Buffy :

:hug:
It's just that "some" people on this board don't realize that some disabilites interfere with spelling. And to those people that don't care about disabled people well I guess I should consider the source. Still being labled as a freeper hurts.

[NMMNG]

4. For pete's sake

You have nearly 10k posts and have been here a good deal of time. People should know by now you aren't a freeper no matter what your spelling and grammar are like. However there are those who will make snap judgements no matter what (I should know that considering my situations). :eyes:

[SammyWinstonJack]

22. Nor am I. nt

[Robeson]

5. I don't give a damn about the grammar police.....

...intent is much more important. And anyone who can't understand the intent of a post, without pulling their red marker out, is an asshole.

[DanCa]

7. Mind over Matter.

I really shouldn't mind these people because they don't matter.

[REP]

6. This is About Spelling/Typos, Not Grammar

I have a badly injured right arm that messes with my typing, but not my grammar or syntax.

Hey, it's titled "Attention Grammar Police"! I just assumed pedants were supposed to show up!

[SiobhanClancy]

8. I don't understand why anyone would complain about someone's grammar..

for ANY reason. It's rude,and it's hurtful. I'm sorry that you've been subjected to that. The "Grammar Police" are no doubt dealing with their own insecurities in a manner that is less than helpful. Don't pay any attention to them.

[DanCa]

9. I guess that there are people who live to put others down.

They don't need much of a reason. Thank you for the kind words. :hug:

[Rabrrrrrr]

10. Because bad grammar can render a communication unintelligable

MOst times, the gist of the thing can still be figured out, but there are a number of times here on DU I've had to ask some specific questions trying to figure out which noun a pronoun refers to; or to parse out a sentence that should have been four sentences; and on and on.

It doesn't happen real often, but it makes communication more difficult - even close to impossible - when a person doesn't use good grammar.

I don't worry about little slips in grammar, since we all make them, especially online. But the big mistakes - those need to be called on, if for nothing else than to try to figure out what the hell the person was writing.

[DanCa]

12. I don't mind having to repeat myself.

It's the way some people, not you, go about asking me to repeat myself. I mean there are times when I hit edit after edit to post one paragraph and I still mess up. Than there is the problem of the edit button shutting off after a certain time frame.The point of this thread was to point out that there are people on this forum who have physical problems typing and that we are not all freepers or people with low IQ.

[Orsino]

20. And when bad grammar or spelling goes hand-in-hand...

...with faulty logic, the post is less persuasive than it might otherwise have been.

[Rabrrrrrr]

21. Absolutely!

You are so quite on that with the her of right being thought! Natch! But only. LOL! Because it was Wednesday and it was just a bottle for her to to pick up she had but he sad no and she said yeah and he said cant be done and that it ekspired so now I"m on the phone and crying bnow and no ohecase and don't know what to do because they said I can't but they said I could when I called theother day.

[DanCa]

Thank you for proving my point.

Making fun of people who can't type 100 percent because of a disability.

[GirlinContempt]

25. I don't think he was making fun of people who can't type due to disability

Where did you get that from?

[DanCa]

27. Look at what I posted. in the title thread.

This thread was about people who can't type right because of a disability.
And right away he's insulting me.

[GirlinContempt]

31. Oh come ON

he was replying to this:

"And when bad grammar or spelling goes hand-in-hand...


...with faulty logic, the post is less persuasive than it might otherwise have been."

Not your OP

[DanCa]

33. Nope I dont buy it sorry.

This thread was about typing with a disability. It was a direct insult.

[DanCa]

34. self delete dupe

[Rabrrrrrr]

44. I don't make fun of people with disabilities.

Unless their disability is intentional ignorance, like republicans or religious fundamentalists.

Obviously I was not making fun of you, but I am sorry if I offended. I was only making fun of people - and we have some on DU - who refuse to write clearly, and who think that following rules of grammar and logic somehow impedes their status as free creatures of the universe, and/or those who just simply refuse to think before they start typing.

[Rabrrrrrr]

45. Oh, and p.s. - I'm far more bitchin' about the people who don't use

grammar than those who make typos.

Which is actually what your whole thread is about - typos. Not about grammar at all, nor even so much spelling, since you don't have a problem with spelling (I would assume) - it seems you have a propblem with the physical act of typing, because of your disability. I can't imagine trying to type with shaky hands - I have a hard enough time when my fingers get cold in the office.

[Orsino]

40. I couldn't not disagree any less partially. n/t

[petronius]

48. That's making my head hurt... (nt)

[Burma Jones]

41. This looks like James Joyce to me

:shrug:

[Gormy Cuss]

11. There (sic) idiots

A grammar cop went after me in one of the recent thread spoofing freeper grammar and spelling errors. Some people just can't help themselves.

I am someone who finds it difficult to read text with bad grammar and spelling but I don't call out individuals for it. Heck, some of my posts are utterly incoherent because I can not think and type at the same time.

Dan:
:yourock:

[petronius]

49. You mean the people who post things like:

"HEY NIMROD! The word is moron! M-O-R-O-N!!! "

I love those people...

[Gormy Cuss]

50. Yes, exactly like that.

Its a HUGH problem.
:rofl:

[Crazy Dave]

13. It really shows immaturity and stupidity amongst the same typical...

people who's names I'm beginning to recognize. If they can't come up with an intelligent or thoughtful debate, they initiate the name calling, like calling you a freeper or saying "duh...you're using right wing talking points". Especially if they know you are right and they are wrong, they know they look stupid so in order to feel superior, they'll find something to try and degrade you with, only for their on satisfaction and something that they can blog about on their little pathetic and insignificant website that only they look at.
I've always enjoyed our discussions and your posts DanCa, I don't know if we have ever disagreed on anything but I can guarantee that we were civil to one another if we did or we ever do.
:toast:

[RevCheesehead]

28. You got that right, Dave.

Look for patterns... they're there. Same people. Same asshole.

[Crazy Dave]

37. Thanks Rev

Don't get me wrong, I have un-loaded on a few of those idiots once they initiate a personal attack. I never make it personal until some dip-shit decides to make it personal with name calling or an insult. The funny thing about it is my reply will typically get removed but not the initiating comment.
Poor babies can only dish it out but are the first to run to the "mommy-raters" because they can't take it.

[LaurenG]

14. I would love to know who said you were a freeper but it's against

the rules to name names. However, it is also against the rules to call someone a freeper. Some people HATE themselves so much they want to make others feel as bad inside as they do. From the way they behave I can't blame them for hating themselves, they're hateful people. :hug:

[Midlodemocrat]

15. Hey, DanCa.

If it makes you feel any better, I got called an undercover republican not that long ago.

Nothing could be further from the truth. Don't let it get to you. Sometimes people don't realize the impact of the written word when they are posting things.

Folks on DU are generally the nicest around. Don't let one or two people turn you off to a great website with great folks.

:hug:

[KitchenWitch]

16. Good rant Dan!

I am dyslexic, which sometimes makes my grammar and spelling kind of wonky. I really work hard at making sure I am spelling, etc. correctly.

Try not to take the assholes personally, they are assholes after all.

[In_The_Wind]

17. DanCa

I've never trashed you in any way ever.
Parkinson's runs in my husband's family, I've watched it progress in my loved ones.
I'm sorry if some people have hurt you.

[LisaL]

18. The grammar police keep on bugging me too.

I was always such a good speller in my native language. It's not easy to write in a second language. I would like to see some of them to write in a language they learned when they were adults.
Shame on them!

[LisaL]

19. I know exactly what you mean.

One of my relatives got Parkinson's. Shakes are something else.
:hug:

[imperialismispasse]

23. Sorry you've been getting shit

I got so much shit about not using apostrophes (I never learned how to use them right) that I've been trying to use them lately. I'm still not sure I'm doing it right though. Rest assured you are not the only one who struggles with that stuff and I don't even have a disease to blame it on only my own brain. Sorry people have been rude, it seems to be some people's hobby around here.

[DanCa]

24. Thanks. (nt)

[Call Me Wesley]

26. No worries.

I never had any problem reading your posts (being a non native English-speaker and all) and would fight against the Grammar Nazis everytime since I think it's a pretty much tacky thing to feel the urge to correct others or pointing out some typos.

Besides, I deal with 4 languages, and I think I can afford to make some grammar errors.

No worries. :hi:

[RevCheesehead]

29. who the fuck is messin' with my Danny boy???

Just point 'em out, and I'll nuke 'em to hellfire and brimstone! :nuke:

BTW, I'd just like to point out what you already know: chicks dig the tremors. :)

:loveya::loveya::loveya:

[GirlinContempt]

30. How we type is all people have to go by on the internet

How we express ourselves in text is the front line in our relationships on here.
While small typos and grammar mistakes that don't actually impede understanding a post should be ignored, you can't expect that:
a) Everyone knows you have trouble due to a disability (Though I'm not sure how that affects grammar)
b) People won't judge you based on the one thing they're given
c) Every time someone corrects you it's rude or nasty

Part of what bothers ME about peoples grammar or spelling on here is that it not only gives the impression that you don't care enough to re-read your post, but that you can't even be bothered to click the 'Check Spelling' button before entering. It comes across as lazy and uninformed, the same as speaking that way in person would. I don't know what your personal 'crimes' are on this front, but if they're minor you probably have a beef.
However, making people feel guilty for correcting you or asking for clarification because you're disabled is pretty unfair.

[RevCheesehead]

36. I think it's only normal to expect people to be courteous.

Regardless of what people post, to go off on them because of grammar or spelling is immature, nasty, and hurtful. In fact, I'll go as far as to say that to go off on someone for any reason - even if you disagree with them - is immature.

I'd also like to point out that there is no such thing as "making people feel guilty". You are responsible for your own feelings, and if this kind of post "makes" you feel guilty, then, perhaps, you are.

[GirlinContempt]

38. I thought I mentioned,

though upon re-reading saw that I did not, people shouldn't be rude and nasty about it. I meant to put that in with the "While small typos and grammar mistakes that don't actually impede understanding a post should be ignored,".

To imply that other people don't affect our feelings is silly. We are in total control of what we DO with those feelings. I don't personally feel guilty, because I've never said anything to DanCa about his spelling or grammar. But I think it's unfair to label people who may be unaware of a particular posters disability as someone that doesn't care about disabled people. Even if it's only intended for the few people that are rude and nasty about it, it's going to create guilt in people who point out mistakes for reasons other than petty snarking. If someone has a conscience, or cares about hurting others, you can certainly make them feel guilty, whether they are or not.

[RevCheesehead]

39. Thanks for the clarification.

What I was trying to point out is that it's precisely because we don't know the circumstances, we shouldn't jump to conclusions. And what if someone comes here, full of good intentions, but not the most intellectually gifted, or not a good writer? Should people jump all over them? Isn't that arrogant? At the very least, it's inconsiderate.

I've noticed a decided turn towards rude behavior on DU, and I'm sick to death of it. I have never, ever seen Danny upset like this before - and that really, really bothers me. He is a valuable member of this community, and we need him here with us. If someone attacks him, they can expect to get some shit from me, because he is my friend.

Again, thanks for making things clearer.

[auntAgonist]

32. Hey DanCa

screw them!! I understand your posts just fine. Let those who are perfect form their own club :)

I'm sorry you're hurt by their insecurities.


:hug:

aA
aka kesha

[JitterbugPerfume]

35. Grammar police can be very hurtful

and hey, they have always been with us. real pain in the ass--they are

[Burma Jones]

42. I do notice when I see the usual errors

such as: your/you're and there/their

but I don't slam anyone for it, that would be annoying and misses the point

and my grammar certainly isn't perfect....

and there are different rules online

and the Golden Rule applies - I don't care if someone notices or minds any mistakes I make, so long as they keep it to themselves....

but, if we're going to mock Freeps for their written communication skills......:shrug:

[Heidi]

43. Understanding and being understood are more important

than flawless grammar. You seem to do well on both points, Dan. Screw those who seek to make themselves feel superior (and look superior) by dissin' your grammar. :hug:

[WritingIsMyReligion]

46. I'm a grammar nazi, albeit a polite one, but I never get on you, Dan.

I'm sorry about those who make your DU typing life miserable.

:hug:

[Strong Atheist]

53. Phuk the grammar police! nt.

[I Have A Dream]

54. Hi, DanCa. Your posts are always sincere and intelligent.

If I were you, if someone says something to you in the future, I'd simply reply "I have Parkinson's" and forget about it. Maybe it will make them realize that they need to think before responding rudely next time.

Don't take the freeper comment personally. Some people use it as their first line of attack.

:hug:

[coolhandlulu]

55. well...

some of the most intelligent, most avid readers i know have the most horrendous handwriting and have trouble trouble expressing themselves with pen and paper. go head to head in a spoken debate with them and you'd wish you hadn't. i mean, even if you didn't have your disability maybe you would still have trouble. people just need to get a grip and get over themselves. while they're busy pointing out your grammar/spelling errors, they probably can't balance their checkbook.