Are you sure there's no way to eradicate sexual desires from people?

[Deja Q]

[xmas74]

1. Have you ever met my ex?

Sexual desire will disappear for years after one meeting w/ that gem.

[BlueIris]

25. I was gonna say, well, I could hook you up with my last b-friend.

That encounter has really killed the joy of sex for me for...the foreseeable future, as far as I can tell. Except, Hypno, he might be especially bad for you as he's a repressed, self-hating gay man. You don't want to go quite that far in this quest, do you? My ex might be too extreme. You might have to use someone a little more tolerable to rid sexual interest from...whoever you're trying to rid sexual interest from. Like...Sean Hannity. Or...maybe Bill. Seriously.

[skygazer]

2. Naked photos of Barbara Bush

That should do it.

[two gun sid]

4. Just thinking about Babs naked...

made me loose any desire for sex. Thanks alot.

[HEyHEY]

3. Yeah, it's called reality

As soon as people who can't get laid realize that and accept it... they'll be a lot happier.

[Deja Q]

8. I accepted that little fact a long time ago. See me any happier? BTW,

consider this:

As soon as you who can't afford food accept you can't afford food means you'll be happier.

Think about it.

[HEyHEY]

11. You don't die without sex, you just go slowly insane, which can be fun

[Deja Q]

12. So you're alone, done without, and gone insane and think it's fun then?

[HEyHEY]

17. You know it, you must suffer, then reap the rewards

[Deja Q]

18. I know what my Reward is.

[RandomKoolzip]

56. My sex drought lasted for most of my life.

In high school, I knew I wasn't gonna get laid, so I put all my energy into the stuff I loved and cared about: music, drugs, reading, vandalism, etc. Then I started having sex, and got bored with it (it's nothing like porn (yawn)), and now it's barely even an issue.

As for your food=sex analogy, that's just wrong. Food is essential, sex isn't. You die without food.


Anyways, love is more important than sex.

[uppityperson]

68. hear hear

thank you for putting it politely and succinctly.

[Deja Q]

70. And sex is an expression of love.

And that's the harshest reality I must endure. No love.

[Dave Reynolds]

5. There may be ways,

saltpeter or bilateral orchiectomy should help men.

Photos of fat guys with hairy backs in Speedos should work for the women.

[Jara sang]

6. Frontal lobotomy.

[Deja Q]

10. Haven't done that yet; but a plastic bag over my head would be better.

But I've accepted not doing that either. Maybe I am happier for not doing so.

[Jara sang]

13. trepanation might work

[Deja Q]

14. That is tantamount to lobotomy.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

7. i have been thinking that a lot lately too

really i now wish i were asexual. it would help life a lot.

[bridgit]

9. by eradicating veins; have we eradicated certain & specific addictions?

[leftofthedial]

15. watch video of king george's speeches

[khashka]

16. No.

Give me six months and your really good health insurance and I could alter your sexual behaviour. Not desires, though.


Come on HT what's the deal? You've gone from I'm gay and no one wants me ( which is ridiculous - you are incredibly handsome and sexy) to a bizzarre interest in heterosexuality and now "eradicating sexual desire"?


A way to eradicate sexual desire? As a therapist and psych. -no.. Maybe, but we haven't the skill yet nor the funding. And I think doing so would be a terrible thing.

Khash.

[Deja Q]

19. Bizarre...

Thanks for thinking I'm handsome and all, and I'm flattered and admittedly interested, but if you saw how people look at me, you'd probably get angry at them. I am a freak in your world. You'd have to see me as I am in public. I dress differently, I talk differently, I react in public differently - for many reasons, most of which stemming from childhood terrors...

Nothing bizarre about heterosexuality either. There ARE women I've had those physiological feelings for, just like how I've had feelings for men. Therefore it is not bizarre, I am not going mad, it is called "bisexuality" and it is genuine. The difference is, I am aware of my remaining Time these days and wish to experience that piece of humanity before I go to my grave, whose gravestone will read "I should have realized...".

And as how "those desires" have negatively impacted my life, and others' lives (I realized several weeks ago that I may have been looking at things without realizing it and making people even more uncomfortable around me than usual). Despite my childhood (I'm about to do a "Dave Pelzer" and write my own sob story that I'm hoping will make me a Pulitzer winner too), I still have compassion and concern for people and am highly distressed when I see people feeling hurt or intimidated - by anybody; but to know it is ME causing the intimidating...

And that's the most bizarre aspect of all: Most people who had childhoods like mine (or worse) usually end up slaughtering innocent people, having gone psycho for real. I remember reading psychology books in high school. Having been fed up with the stereotype of "most people who kill (or whatever crime) are loners", I almost opted to commit suicide because I was shocked at what I was reading and I sure as hell was not going to let myself get to the point where I'd do such a vile thing. After one night after a fencing tournament in which I did extremely well, I opted to die on a good note. Sadly, my method did not work - promptly making me feel like a stupid worthless loser once again. Only this time, I didn't need a person around to make me feel that way.

[khashka]

24. OK

You brought up a lot of stuff that should be addressed in PM rather than in public.

But I'll say this - If I met you in real life, I'd find you intimidating. How could such a good looking man have any interest in me? I'd never approach you - because I'd be certain you'd reject me.

I know nothing of your childhood. I can't, I wasn't there. But I get the gist

"Stupid worthless loser" - your words and so not true.. None of those words describe you,at all.

OK, i'll be honest here - I would be happy to get to know HT more deeply. He's interesting,funny, - couldn't get his clothes off fast enough......


AH well......

Khash.

[Deja Q]

26. I re-read my post.

I do not understand how a PM would be a more appropriate venue. However, if you are serious in wanting to get to know me better, please PM...

[khashka]

57. Not the OP, my very good friend

But your response to my post.

The childhood stuff should be better dealt with one on one. Not in public. I do know - I could easily have ended up a serial killer. It would have been so easy to go that way.... but I chose something different. Never let your past experiences define who you are.

I do think you are very good looking. Muchly so. Very muchly so... And we have similar interests. But I can't PM you. I've tried numerous times and I'm always told you aren't accepting PMs (We've discussed this before - there is a glitch in the system.)

Khash.

[Deja Q]

63. I forgot you'd mentioned that before...

I forget lots of things... :(

And, no, I've never let my past experiences control me. But everything helps redefine the future. Directly or otherwise. Those two reasons help me define my life to the best of my ability.

And I am a survivor. Never have, never will be anything less.

[Deja Q]

64. It just dawned on me, you think I'd be considered some sort of risk?!

My shock is in automatically comparing myself based on a common stereotype put onto people with bad childhoods. (I still can't fathom how people perceive; especially when part of my problem is an inability To perceive...)

[khashka]

71. A risk? Not at all.

I think you are a very good man. Many of us had bad childhoods (don't even ask about mine).
But you have often put yourself down and it might come from that. But whetrher it was history or just a low point in your life, you rarely do that any more. Which is good - you don't deserve it even if you are the one doing it.

I think you're wonderful. But a perhaps a little odd. :loveya:

Khash.

[Deja Q]

76. But, but, but. Do you know how often I've longed to NOT BE ODD?

I know I'm odd.

Dunno if it's a curse or a blessing, or if I deserved my childhood just because I'm odd...

And...

[swimboy]

58. I'm really not going to wade in here other than to say

why don't you PM Khashka and see if he would be able to PM you by hitting reply? That failing, send him an email address. :hug:

[Deja Q]

69. I just PM'ed him... with my email address too...

I hope there is no glitch. But I will assume that if need be...

[LisaL]

20. Hmm. I am pretty sure there is a way. Have you heard

of castration?

[philosophie_en_rose]

21. Kill all humans?

:shrug:

[Deja Q]

40. I'll leave that to you.

Killing is abhorrent to me.

[philosophie_en_rose]

52. Just answering the question.

I wouldn't kill to end sex.

[pitohui]

22. it's called marriage EOM

.

[Orsino]

23. Army issue spectacles.

We called 'em BCGs: birth-control glasses.

[LeftyMom]

27. Childbirth and shift work both work pretty well

exhaustion does number on the libido.

[bridgit]

28. well put, LeftyMom...

:hi:

[tuvor]

29. I sure hope not. Sexual desire rocks!

[Deja Q]

31. Well, you obviously get some in return.

[tuvor]

33. Not always. Desire for its own sake's all right, too.

And that's as philosopical as I care to get. :)

[Mayberry Machiavelli]

30. Hypno, I'm pretty sure that for men, castration, surgical or chemical, is

generally pretty effective. Now that doesn't mean that people don't still have some psychological "need" for some kind of sex related to their self image, but the normal physical drives largely go away.

Not sure about women.

[Benfea]

46. It's called "radical hysterectomy"

…and it involves removing the uterus and ovaries.

[Mayberry Machiavelli]

48. Oh I'm very familiar with the surgery, less so its effect on sexual desire

[PassingFair]

32. Try "peri-menopause"

the pause that depresses....

[ScreamingMeemie]

54. ....

:rofl:

[LaurenG]

55. I so relate to that but there is hope

It gets better after it gets worse. Seriously it does come back around. :loveya:

[crispini]

34. Yes.

You can get rid of your sexual desire the same way you get rid of your desire for cigs, or your desire for bad food, or anything like that.

- Don't dwell on those thoughts. When they pop up, replace them with something else.
- Negative reinforcement when you have the thoughts -- like snapping a rubber band on your wrist -- will also help.
- Meditation and various mind control techniques like self-hypnosis also work. Yoga is helpful

Yogis do this kind of thing all of the time. Control of the mind and body, which includes all kinds of appetites, is a discipline like any other.

[Deja Q]

35. I will continue to make the attempt.

I know of another solution if the effort is ultimately a failure.

[crispini]

36. Google "brahmacharya"

Here's some interesting reading to get you started:
http://www.dlshq.org/teachings/brahmacharya.htm

[billyskank]

60. Brahmacarya is the hardest thing on earth

I know many brahmacaris and several sannyasis. Most will "fall down" and some have already. Don't be under any illusions. It's not like giving up cigarettes, as someone else said in this thread, because the desire for a smoke is not an inherent part of having a physical body; it is an extraneous habit that has been picked up along the way. But the urge of the genitals, just like the urges to speak, the disturbances of the mind and the urges of the tongue and belly are all caused by the physical body. The only way to be free from these urges is to not have a material body. Not a practical solution, I'm sure you will agree.

To simply deny the urges, like the yogis do, takes an enormous effort. Most cannot tolerate it. Even those that do and achieve "liberation" still come back down again, because the root of their material desires have not been eradicated.

[crispini]

61. I guess it all depends on your point of view.

I find doing without sex very easy.

I think the OP is really more about wanting love / relationships, anyway, rather than just sex... at least that's my guess. Now, doing without sex IF one is in the context of a loving relationship would, in fact, be very difficult. But if one is self-sufficient and self contained enough to do without a love relationship then doing without sex is very simple.

[zone]

37. Did you ever try to have sex while watching the SOTU address?

[w8liftinglady]

49. LOL...not a masochist

[zone]

62. Very cool painting/image

Did you create that?

[Cathyclysmic]

38. oops

wrong user.

[Deja Q]

39. No shock here.

[Mayberry Machiavelli]

41. Why is it important to suppress this?

:shrug:

Sexual desire is normal, and a good thing, I thought?

[Deja Q]

42. If you wish to know, PM me.

As has been said, it is not... appropriate for me to respond in public. I have noted this accordingly and shall refrain in all future conversations.

[Mayberry Machiavelli]

45. PM sent.

[Benfea]

43. I hear having children usually does the trick. ;) -NT

[sundog]

44. laura bush

"you know her pussy tastes like lysol" - margaret cho

[Mayberry Machiavelli]

47. Waggish answer: Get Married

[NashVegas]

50. For a Time, Certainly

Allegory time:

A friend's dog got out of the fenced yard and was happily throwing down with a neighboring female dog, who was in heat. Out of nowhere, a third dog, much larger, came on the scene and attacked the poor little thing, sending him to the vet's for stitches. While he was there, he got neutered.

Things kind of sort of like that, in variations, happen all the time.

[dysfunctional press]

51. they're called "opiates".

and they work all too well.

[Starbucks Anarchist]

53. Naked pictures of me.

;)

[BikeWriter]

59. Marry them!

[aclog]

65. Hey dude, I can tell from your posts that you are confused

but it strikes me that you are dwelling on stupid over-intellectualized questions

Not a flame just an observation

If you are like this IRL I would not be inclined to talk to you bc frankly I'd rather talk about ANYTHING less heavy than the shit you seem to be hand-wringing over constantly.

If that gives you any insight, good but if not sorry :(

[Deja Q]

66. Thank you. And no need to apologize.

Yours is a post full of insight, and valid to my persona too.

BTW: I suggest you put me on your "Ignore" and not have to worry about me and the things I say constantly. Not a flame, just an observation. Most people prefer to avoid stress and I am clearly one to you. I highly appreciate the time you'd taken to respond. But I am more apt to be able to change my skin color than I am my personality. What you can do is to help make society better so fewer people like me are made. Unlike skin color, behavior can be modified in the right environment...

[aclog]

67. No seriously there was no hostility in my post

I can empathize to a great extent with you and I was trying to make my post as raw and visceral as possible with out sounding like a (complete) asshole. Don't sweat it.

So, no I won't be putting on you on ignore :)

One problem with DU is everybody is so damn nice all the time, sometimes thats counterproductive IMO

[khashka]

73. You total ratfuck bastard!

"so fewer people like me are made" ???????????
You idiot! I wish there were more people like you. I really do.

Kind, caring, funny. If only there were more men like you.

Take a real hard look at yourself, and maybe you'll see what I see. Something wonderful.

Khash.

[Deja Q]

74. A big 'thank you'.

:hug: :hug:

Did you get my PM? (I hope!)

I don't know what caused me to snap. Well, it's the coworker curiosity combined with her flirting then the "my husband!" revelation that sank me to the floor. But I've snapped out of it. And owe more apologies than the US owes dollars... :blush:

[khashka]

75. Well, sorry for getting nasty

But I told you before.... if you start getting down on yourself I'm gonna call you on it.

But I love you, baby :)


Khash.

[rucky]

72. Two words can do it: "I Do" n/t

[SofaKingLiberal]

77. .

:rofl: