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Orangepeel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-04-06 12:25 PM
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Is there a large Hmong population in Wisconsin?
I was playing around Russ Feingold's website (russfeingold.com) and the translation options were "en espanol" and "lus hmoob" -- which, after some googling, I realized was Hmong (well, to be honest, I first thought that it was those gibberish words that are on powerpoint templates).

Good for Feingold for having an unusual option, but I would have thought that French or Norwegian or something would have been more useful (but what do I know? I'm in Florida)
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begin_within Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-04-06 12:26 PM
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1. When I visited central Wisconsin, I was told they were moving there.
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stpalm Donating Member (734 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-04-06 12:30 PM
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2. I live in Western Wisconsin
There is a large Hmong population in the Twin Cities, about 20 minutes away. In addition to that, there is substantial rural Hmong. You might remember last year a Hmong hunter shot about 6 hunters... there was a big rascist backlash.
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-04-06 12:31 PM
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3. And in the TC Metro area too. Along with Indians.
As in "India: The country we're giving our IT stature to before we start whining how we're losing our own stature regarding IT." :crazy:

Are the Hmong related to that Moonie cult crap?
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Archae Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-04-06 05:30 PM
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11. A lot here in Sheboygan, too.
At the "Farmer's Market" every Wednesday at Fountain Park, except in winter, most of the farmers and garderners selling produce (which is very good, BTW,) are Hmong.
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no name no slogan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-04-06 05:53 PM
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12. No, the Hmong are a SE Asian ethnic group
who originated in the hills of Laos. They were recruited by the CIA to fight against Indochinese Communists in the 1950s-70s. Most of them became refugees after Laos, Cambodia and Vietnam fell to the Communists in the 1970s, and lived for decades in refugee camps in Thailand-- left high and dry by the US Government, who had promised to take care of them in return for their service.
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-04-06 12:42 PM
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4. Yes, both MN and WI have large Hmong populations
I live in Madison where we have community gardens. There are some Hmong who truly "farm" these gardens and grow all their food there and sell what they don't use.

There are more people of German ancestry in WI than Scandinavian or French, but most of them speak English.
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mockmonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-04-06 12:45 PM
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5. Many Hmong live here
in Eastern Wisconsin. I think the translation options fit the area well. :)
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Ellipsis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-04-06 01:01 PM
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6. Many thousands...
in the north central part of the state...Wausau, Stevens Point, also a large population in the "Fox Valley". (South of Green Bay)
They are often treated unkindly in conversation by local red necks... who have no understanding of the role they played in Viet Nam.
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Nikia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-04-06 02:14 PM
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7. Yes and they are probably the most discriminated against
Of all the minorities around here. I think that Hmong who grew up around here who speak good English, go to college, and leave behind the Hmong lifestyle can blend in with less discriminated against other Asians. Newer immigrants who do not speak English, live in large families, marry young, are poor, and fit certain stereotypes really have a hard time. At almost every place I worked around here, people in management have made comments about how they don't want to hire Hmongs. I have also heard all kinds of hateful comments from people who live around here. I think that their culture and reasons for being here are misunderstood.
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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-04-06 02:51 PM
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8. Large?... It's Hmongous!
Sorry, I couldn't resist ...
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Orangepeel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-04-06 08:40 PM
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16. snarf
:rofl:
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-04-06 02:54 PM
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9. Yes, there is - in a number of cities
Wausau and Eau Claire have large populations, but so do a lot of other communities. Seems mostly that they're in the north of the state.

As to the Norwegian, a generation ago he might have had Norwegian and German on the site, but the people who speak only those languages are long gone, except for just a few very elderly ones.
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no name no slogan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-04-06 04:46 PM
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10. It could be a legal requirement
I work in state government, and we were forced to put eight different language links on our site because of a lawsuit. It was the right thing to do, of course, and were were required to put links up for several languages which are spoken in our state, even if they aren't spoken by that many people (like Serbo-Croation, for example).
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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-04-06 07:34 PM
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13. Actually, Serbo-Croatian would work for Bosnian refugees
The Serbs, Croatians, and Bosnians all speak the same language.
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no name no slogan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-04-06 07:48 PM
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14. Yup. That's why it's there
but only in the Roman alphabet, which the Croats use. It doesn't seem like we have a big Serb/Croat/Bosnian community here-- not as big as the Hmong or Somalis, anyway.
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Orangepeel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-04-06 08:39 PM
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15. eight languages wouldn't have surprised me
it surprised me that the two languages used were Spanish and Hoomb, which, to be honest, I'd never heard of.

Good for Feingold for reaching out, I was just surprised.
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Orangepeel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-04-06 08:41 PM
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17. thanks, everyone
learn something new everyday
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Magrittes Pipe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-04-06 08:43 PM
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18. Mmmm... Milwaukee pho shops.
:9
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Redstone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-04-06 08:46 PM
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19. Check the NPR website for more info.
They had a segment about this the other day.

Redstone
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Left Is Write Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-04-06 08:48 PM
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20. When I lived in Central Wisconsin in the early-mid 90s, there was.
I don't know too many folks who speak Norwegian, and my people ARE Norwegian. :D
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Orangepeel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-04-06 10:14 PM
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21. well, unfortunately, I've never even been to Wisconsin
I just picture a lot of Scandinavian-looking people eating cheese in the snow! :D

Obviously, I need to learn more.
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Left Is Write Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-04-06 10:16 PM
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22. You're picturing Minnesota.
Central Wisconsin (I can only speak for where I lived) is a lot of Polish-descended people eating cheese in the snow. ;)
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