It isn't so much the fault of the ref's, I place MORE blame on the NFL

[matcom]

wasn't really going to way in on this (not that you care) but my .02 on the Stupid Bowl. yeah, the game pretty much sucked (I had no dog in the fight) and there were some HORRIBLE calls but I place more blame on the NFL's shitty rules than the refs.

the NFL has tried to turn this into a game of inches. fuck some of the rules are almost golf-like (and i LOVE golf). but there is NO place for 'golf-like' rules in football.

case in point. this IDIOTIC rule that if a tit of the ball crosses the OUTSIDE tit of the white line defining the end zone, it is ruled a touchdown.

:wtf:

get the goddamned ball INTO the end zone and you have a touchdown you idiotic fucks! end of controversy. period. either you DID or you DID NOT. fuck this 'breaking the plane'.

pass interference. there is GOING to be bumping and shoving by BOTH receiver and DB during a passing route. let them play. IF either player DIRECTLY impedes the other from catching the ball while both are in the air, call it. otherwise keep the fucking yellow flag in your jock-strap.

the quarterback has the same damned helmet and pads on as everyone else on the field. therefore, he CAN be hit. hit him high, hit him low. i don't give a rat's ass that he makes more $$ than any other player out there. far as i'm concerned, that fact means he SHOULD be hit when the opportunity arrises.

speaking of QB's, fuck this allowing INTENTIAL GROUNDING if he is outside the pocket. stupid assed rule. either there is a receiver in the area or not. PERIOD. stop allowing those pussies to toss the ball into the 3rd row of seats to avoid being sacked. it is a coward's play anyway. suck it up boys. lower your shoulder and take on those linebackers like a man!

there are more but you get the gist. too many pussy-assed rules. frankly i don't even know HOW the refs are supposed to remember them all. let's go back to the 70's and LET THEM PLAY TACKLE FOOTBALL!

:grr:

:rant:

ON EDIT - ONE MORE RANT:

i am sick and fucking TIRED of the Stupid Bowl being played in either WARM climates or DOMES. tell you what NFL, let's just ROTATE to a new stadium every year. take all the stadiums and set a rotation. one year it is in Miami, the next, Chicago, the next NY, etc....

luck of the fucking draw i say. would LOVE to see say 2 florida teams having to play at Lambeau Field in January. let every city get the bennies of hosting for a change.

i'm done now. off to work soon

[ScreamingMeemie]

1. Stop posting using matcom's account Rabrrrrrr...

:hide:

And, on edit, nothing even comes close to the stupidity of the Icing call in hockey. :hi:

[matcom]

2. never watched a hockey game in my life

is 'icing' when they stop and all make snow cones? :shrug:

[ScreamingMeemie]

5. Close!

Definition: Shooting the puck over half the length of the ice. Considered a delaying tactic, it results in a stoppage in play and a faceoff in the offending team's defensive zone.
More specifically, icing is called when the puck is shot across the center line to the end of the ice. If the puck crosses the opposing goal line untouched, and is then retrieved by an opposing player, icing is called.



**Most people have no idea what the above paragraph means...and it is too easy for the opposing team to create an icing call. :hi:

[mzteris]

17. You forgot

that icing is okay for the shorthanded team on a power play. . .

[KitchenWitch]

3. Icing is the stooooopidest penalty evah!

:hi:

[ScreamingMeemie]

4. 85% of people polled said they have no idea what Icing even is...

...I made that up but I bet I am right. ;) :hi:

[KitchenWitch]

6. LOL

Really, isn't the point (other than scoring a goal) to get the puck out of your own defensive end of the rink? Doesn't "icing" sufficiently do that?

[ScreamingMeemie]

8. Yes. I think it's too easy for the opposing team to create the icing

call. If they are going to keep the stupid icing rule, there should be a penalty for any player close enough to keep the puck in play. But, what do I know? I can't even afford f-ing tickets anymore. :)

[kick-ass-bob]

13. What's wrong with icing?

If the defense kicks the puck the length of the ice to break the offense's momentum, they have to do a face off in the defense's zone. You really want that gone? All you would see is the defense take a whack at the puck because there are no consequences to their action - and the puck flies down the ice to nobody all game long.

Icing isn't harsh enough for a penalty, but it is too much of a problem to let it happen.

[Rabrrrrrr]

20. I have to admit, that was a pretty damned rabrrrrrr-like rant.

nicely done, matcom!

:yourock:

[Fox Mulder]

7. The XFL didn't have those lame-ass rules as the NFL...

but for some reason, they were axed after their first season...:shrug:

[ScreamingMeemie]

9. I loved the XFL..It is wayyyy more fun and interesting to have a foot

race for the ball to decipher possession. :hi:

[KitchenWitch]

10. Ratings - the XFL lost money

No one wanted to advertise.

[Fox Mulder]

11. That, plus I don't think anyone liked that it was tied to...

Vince McMahon, owner of the WWE. A lot of people think wrestling is a joke, so they automatically assumed the XFL was too.

[KitchenWitch]

12. Also, Vince McMahon's business dealings in the past

were often less than successful.

[Ekirh]

18. That is definitely true

Before the XFL it was the WBF . . (World Bodybuilding Federation) And that tanked (Although I think it did last longer than XFL at least)

For whatever reason Vince always tries to be more than be in the wrestling business. . . which is why we also now have WWE FILMS . . . with a movie (Forgot it's name) starring WWE wrestler Kane (Glenn Jacobs) coming out soon. If history continues WWE FILMS will be doomed as well.


Also to note another WWE Film will be "The Marine" With John Cena. . . I know . . . joy.

[Brewman_Jax]

24. Can't argue that

reminded me of my younger days with the old "keep-away" tackle games played in the back yard--without pads and rules and parents not watching.

[kick-ass-bob]

14. Bullshit on hitting the QB.

Do you know how often a non-QB player comes in and out of the game - especially if he gets rung up? QB's aren't anywhere near as interchangeable as ANYONE else on the field and to have them coming in and out (especially with the difference in quality b/n 1st & 2nd string QBs) would ruin the entire game.


The rest of it, I can't argue with.

[fishnfla]

15. Case in point: Jon Kitna

When Carson Palmer went down early in the playoff game, Kitna came in and the Bengals just could not do anything.

A QB gets in sync with his receivers and backs and lineman.

I'm OK with the intentional grounding rule too.

[fishnfla]

16. Well, there could never be a SB at Lambeau

There are not enough hotel rooms in that town. There are more bowling alleys than hotel rooms there. Bowling, ice fishing and drinking is all there is to do all winter.

Beyond that the tin-foil hat theory amongst the cheeseheads is that the NFL dreads even having an NFC championship game at Lambeau (the conspiracy being why bad calls against the Pack this year). The NFL does not want the weather to be a factor in playoff games, which is more to your point.

They want domes, they want parity. They want a uniform product that packages into 2 hours of play and 1 hour of commercials nice and neat. Hence the nit picky rules.

But I think the arbitray enforcement of the rules by lackluster officials is more of a problem than the rules themselves.

My solution: the refs should have their name on the back of their shirts just like the players. They should be accountable to the press nad the fans like the players and coaches are too.

[Rabrrrrrr]

21. And they should have electrodes in their suits

that the people watching from home can send a signal to acvtivate the electrode every time an asinine play is called. There's gotta be a way, at least for those with digital cable, to set that up, and maybe with a limiter - like, it takes 100,000 people calling for the shock simultaneously within a couple seconds of the call for the shock to take effect. Just to make sure that individuals can't ruin the game, like Chicago fans sitting on their urine soacked and feces encrusted couches with their beer-drenched shirts covered in catsup and cheap mustard and Dorito flakes, trying to yell at the refs with half a sausage in their mouth added in with their basic inability to articulate anything more than "beer" or "Bear" or "me hit you" or "me put trash on Wisconsin roads" shocking the refs for no good reason at all during every Bears game, wherever they're playing.

[Rabrrrrrr]

19. I agree on the stadium issue - play it at EVERY fucking stadium.

Or, in Rabrrrrrr's perfect world, domed stadiums would b e verboten.

Fucking coward pissant juice-drinking fucks, all afraid of the weather. Fuck that.

Play it in Lambeau!

I'd love nothing better than watching two southern teams and their racist ignorant trash fans playing lambeau field in 10 below, 100 below with the wind chill. That would be fucking funnier than hell! And some sweet Goddamn Yankee revenge.

"Fuck your domed playfield, Florida! Fuck your shorts and t-shirt wearing bullshit, Carolina! Welcome to the real world! Stupid fucks. By the way, when it's that cold, you might want to be careful with the tobacco spit, and you might want to skip the half-a-bottle-of-hairspray you big-haired yellow-polyester-wearing gum-snapping faux-belle."

[matcom]

22. *sniff*

beautiful Rabrrrr. simply beautiful.

*sniff*

[Rabrrrrrr]

23. Thanks!

:thumbsup: