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gizmo1979 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 03:00 PM
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Holy smoking Flame wars!
Just had a flamewar with a crazy lady in GD.Wow she not only doesn't like smokers she doesn't like quit aides either!Told me to GO COLD TURKEY YOU slacker.No crutches like gum or patch man she was tough!
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KitchenWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 03:02 PM
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wow
I hate smoking, but hey, do what you gotta do to quit!
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laheina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 03:02 PM
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1. Was she ever a smoker?
I'm not, but I have friends who have been trying to quit for *years.*

I say, go with what works. ;)
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gizmo1979 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 03:49 PM
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11. No but her husband had quit.
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progmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 03:03 PM
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2. you call that a flamewar?
sounded to me like she was just giving you advice.... :shrug:
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gizmo1979 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 03:50 PM
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12. You should see the post.
Really big letters!
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ScreamingMeemie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 03:07 PM
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3. MrG is going on two months smoke free with Nicorette knockoffs.
I'll take it, because he was getting to where he couldn't breathe. Sanctimony gets a person nowhere with me.
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gizmo1979 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 03:51 PM
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14. That's what I'm saying.
use all the tools at your disposal.
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gizmo1979 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 05:37 PM
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21. Yes you were in a bigger war
with miss crabby than I.You kicked her butt.
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Ravenseye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 03:14 PM
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4. The best way to quit smoking - read here
Don't smoke.

It's sort of a 'Ha ha, asshole' thing but seriously. The trick is to actually not smoke. However you get there is up to you. Gum, patch, zyban, heroin...it's up to you.

Hell, if you want to smoke go for it...I still need to bum my occasional smokes from someone.

I smoked for over 15 years and then quit cold turkey simply because I woke up one morning and decided I didn't want my new daughter to associate the smell of an ashtray with that of her father, and that was all it took. Actually wanting to quit.

I think no matter how you do it...cold turkey, drugs, gums, aides, patches, cutting down...It's not going to work unless you honestly want to quit. Anyway, someone who tells you HOW to quit is missing the whole point. It's not about HOW to quit. Sheesh.
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Oeditpus Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 03:15 PM
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5. ...
:popcorn:
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tjwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 03:18 PM
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6. I tried the gum, the patch, hypnosis, none of them worked for me.
I had to do the cold turkey thing. Been 6 years now.
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gizmo1979 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 03:53 PM
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15. I said everyone
is different I know alot of folks who went cold turkey.Got up one day and said no more smoking.Don't work for me.
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benburch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 03:24 PM
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7. And here I thought we had a thread about incense. nt
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Beaverhausen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 03:25 PM
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8. My BF is trying to quit using lozenges - they are just prolonging it
Everyone I know who quit sucessfully did it cold turkey.
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kwassa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 03:46 PM
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10. I didn't do cold turkey, and I quit 21 years ago.
smoked 2.5 packs Marlboros a day for 14 years.

I gradually cut back, reducing to one cig a day for a couple months before quitting altogether.

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Beaverhausen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 04:16 PM
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20. My BF - who is smoking again because the lozenges didn't work
is now trying the gradual cut back method. But he said he realized that with the lozenges he still craved and sated his desire for the nicotine high and that's really not a good way to quit.

I just want him to quit soon.

I was an occasional smoker until I got pneumonia last christmas. Haven't had one since Dec.18th.
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ET Awful Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 03:44 PM
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9. I quit with Zyban/Welbutrin
Worked like a charm, haven't had a smoke in over 3 years (will be 4 years in May or June, I forget). Haven't even really wanted one in ages.
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DrGonzoLives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 03:50 PM
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13. Serves you right for going into GD!
:evilgrin:
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gizmo1979 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 03:54 PM
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17. It was an innocent post about
companys firing people for smoking on their own time.I didn't know I'd run into the quit nazi.
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DrGonzoLives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 04:01 PM
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19. This must be your first brush with the anti-tobacco Gestapo
I've learned to just tune them out. It's very relaxing that way.
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HuckleB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 03:54 PM
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16. Smokers are wonderful.
Especially for poultry and fish.
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Generic Brad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 04:00 PM
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18. Try the Gum
My big resistance to quitting was the expense of the gum. But eventually I realized it was less expensive than what I spent on cigarettes in a year's time. It was also easier to justify quitting after I had to bring my wife into the emergency room where they diagnosed her with the early stages of emphysema. The realization that we could actually lose each other due to smoking served as my incentive. I just hope you finally decide to quit before you have a wake up call.

Now we're two years down the road, both smoke free and no more health problems. I guarantee you will eventually feel so good you'll wonder why you ever smoked in the first place.
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gizmo1979 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 05:39 PM
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22. that's what my Doctor says
Think about how much it costs to smoke.I say that's not how smokers look at it.Cigarettes are a sure fix those other things might work so it's a crap shoot.
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vikegirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 05:41 PM
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23. I quit with the gum
Now I'm addicted to the gum. Over four years now. :shrug:
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kay1864 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 06:18 PM
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24. This might help...
Years ago I saw a "What kind of smoker are you" quiz that suggested the best method for quitting, based on your answers.

Well I couldn't find that site, but I think this quiz on Oprah.com might be the same one.

Hope it helps...good luck!

http://www.oprah.com/omagazine/200511/omag_200511_smokequiz.jhtml
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distantearlywarning Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-17-06 06:35 PM
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25. It's America. The leftover Puritan crap.
Everybody believes you should suffer to get what you want. Otherwise you might be doing something sinful. You see it sometimes when people talk about weight loss too. It's not enough that disgusting fat people (not my words, their attitude), they have to do it by eating only celery and running 18 miles a day. Otherwise it's not "real" weight loss so they are still technically "BAD" people (like if they got gastric bypass, or God forbid, actually enjoy the exercise they did to lose the weight).

And one time I read a thread on another board about people losing weight playing Dance Dance Revolution and there were all these people getting mad about it and saying how these kids needed to go to the gym or run instead of playing video games. Seriously, WTF is that all about??? :silly: "I'm sorry, but unless you exercise in a boring, meaningless way, your weightloss doesn't count!" Whatever. Morons. Who cares how it happens as long as they are healthy and happy! Jeez. Some people are so miserable they don't want anyone else to be happy either.

So you just quit smoking any way that works for you. It's your life and your body and your health. Ignore the morons. Seriously. It's not worth even discussing stuff with some people. (And by the way, I quit smoking 5 years ago. It was a good decision and I've never regretted it. I did it cold turkey, but it was at least the 5th or 6th time I tried. Keep trying, you'll get there!)

:hug:
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