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bbinacan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 10:02 PM
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Eastern NC BBQ vs. Western NC BBQ
Here in NC, barbecue means one thing. PORK. Barbecue is not a verb (as in we're going to barbecue) it is a noun. It is the pig pickin'.

The battle in NC is about the two styles. West=tomato based thick sauce while East=vinegar and red pepper lighter sauce.

Eastern style rules.

The SC mustard based sauce is just nasty.



What are your thoughts?

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ncrainbowgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 10:07 PM
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1. 1 vote right here for Eastern NC Barbecue
:hi:

Ok, I'm really wanting some of that barbecue now. That looks SO good.

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bbinacan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 11:00 PM
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11. If you can't get
barbecue at a pig pickin' or a good restaurant, try the Lancaster brand. They are in Garner, NC and their pork can be found at Food Lion. When my parents visit from KC, they always take back several pounds with them.
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yellowdogintexas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-19-06 11:04 AM
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26. devoted addict to the East NC vinegar/hot sauce. Grew up on
that style, but not in NC...Kentucky, actually.

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hobo_baggins Donating Member (754 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 10:10 PM
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2. I gotta rep the east...i love my vinegar
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 10:11 PM
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3. I don't like anything that involves "Barbeque sauce"
I don't like my meats mixed with sugars, and BBQ sauce has a lot of it.

I like my barbequed foods seared, spiced with simple things like salt, pepper, cayenne, and garlic. Throw something light on top after cooking and you have a winner. That thick brown stuff just ruins it for me.

In fact, I prefer my steak with mustard over BBQ sauce.
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bbinacan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 10:24 PM
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5. Steak is not BBQ
only pork is.
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 10:25 PM
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7. Specifically pork shoulders -- slow cooked.... yum
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bbinacan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 11:12 PM
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13. Don't you find it strange
that a pork shoulder is sold as a "butt"?
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-19-06 08:29 AM
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19. I do, and when I was a kid, it freaked me out!
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bbinacan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-19-06 02:19 PM
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34. LOL
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yellowdogintexas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-19-06 11:05 AM
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27. damn straight. You tell somebody in my old stomping grounds
you are serving barbecue and they will just ask whose pit it came from, they know it is pork.
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yellowdogintexas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-19-06 11:07 AM
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28. Steak is cooking on the grill. chicken is cooking on the grill
brisket is something they do westof the Mississippi river (where I now live actually). Ribs are...Ribs.

barbecue is PORK
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 10:25 PM
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6. That's because you've never had NC BBQ
Edited on Sat Feb-18-06 10:25 PM by LostinVA
Either East or Lexington-style.... yummo, as the ever-more-annoying Rachael Ray would say. This is NOT what you consider BBQ sauce, trust me. I grew up in NJ, lived in NC for 17 years... I've seen both sides....
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 10:23 PM
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4. Lexington-style, hand's down, no arguments -- Stamey's in Greensboro
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bbinacan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 10:31 PM
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8. Both are great
I'll take western in a pinch, but I love the eastern.
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 10:49 PM
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9. Both are way better than VA, Kentucky, or Texas Q
I mean, come on... BEEF BBQ? Ha!
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bbinacan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 10:52 PM
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10. You've got that right. n/t
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yellowdogintexas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-19-06 11:10 AM
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29. not everyone in KY does beef, please! I never heard of beef
barbecue until I went to college in Owensboro KY ...I grew up right down on the state line 8 miles from Tennessee...down there, it is PORK>


in the Owensboro/Henderson/Evansville (Indiana) area they even barbecue mutton! There used to be a place just a couple of blocks off campus that advertised they would smoke anything you brought them, no questions asked.

coon
wild turkey
deer, etc.

mutton ewww
and the sauce was sweet and thick and way too tomatoey. bleeech

The only thing I could ever really enjoy from those places was chicken. It is very hard to ruin a good smoke cooked chicken.
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Benfea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 11:02 PM
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12. I *hate* tomato-based BBQ sauces. -NT
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Ellen Forradalom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-18-06 11:52 PM
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14. Vinegar and pepper style
I'll have the pulled-pork sandwich please. With mac & cheese on the side.
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noshenanigans Donating Member (778 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-19-06 01:20 AM
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15. Boo, Western is where its at!
I was raised in the Piedmont/Foothills, man. I feel very truly and deeply that our style is better. That feeling resides on the same brainwave as my UNC alum "Duke sucks" certainty.
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-19-06 08:30 AM
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20. Word!
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bbinacan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-19-06 02:27 PM
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36. As a fellow UNC Alum
I totally agree with the certainty of "Dook Sucks" but Eastern is much better than Western. IMHO.
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solinvictus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-19-06 01:22 AM
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16. Neither..
Damn Carolina Yankees! (I'm in Alabama) ;)
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-19-06 01:33 AM
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17. Memphis
hands down
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-19-06 08:30 AM
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21. giggle
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Lefty48197 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-19-06 02:27 AM
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18. C'mon quit holding out on the recipes!
Here's mine for baby back ribs:

First, tear off the membrane/sinew on the underside of the slab. It's easier to grab with a piece of paper towel. Peel it off. Your ribs will be much better without it.

Then I'll rub both sides with a little olive oil just to get them wet, then I'll lightly sprinkle on garlic powder and then go heavy on the fresh ground black pepper. Those two ingredients are the main ingredients for every piece of meat I cook. Beef, pork, chicken, even fish.

I might also add a seasoned pepper blend. Maybe a hot one, maybe a milder one. Probably onion powder too. Allspice and hot pepper if you want that "Jamaican Jerk" flavor.

Light one side of the grill, and put the ribs on the other, bone side down. Cook for about three hours, maybe 2 1/2. If you cook them any faster than that, then you've used too much heat and the ribs will suffer considerably. The key is to sloooooow cook them. I usually leave them on bone side down for an hour or more before flipping them. Then I pretty much rotate them every few minutes until they're done. They're done when you can bend the slab and break it easily.

I do like to add a light coating of red BBQ sauce when the ribs are done, and then I only leave them on long enough to warm the sauce.
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-19-06 08:31 AM
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22. OMG! RIBS???? That's not real barbeque!
In NC, it's a noun, not a verb!
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Lefty48197 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-19-06 01:15 PM
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32. My ribs are great anywhere.
I'm sure I could convert the entire state of NC.
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-19-06 02:56 PM
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37. No, they would love them as ribs, but they aren't what NCers
call barbecue. That will never, never happen. You'll have a better chance of getting the Pope to officiate a Black Mass.
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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-19-06 08:40 AM
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23. Hey, now I want 'Q and slaw for breakfast!
Edited on Sun Feb-19-06 08:40 AM by supernova
:9 Instead of the bacon and eggs that I'm really having. :-(

edit: Oh, Eastern, of course! :9
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yellowdogintexas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-19-06 11:13 AM
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30. SLAW ON THE SANDWICH!!!!!
of course.

I may have to brave the sleet for a trip to Red Hot and Blue (the closest I can come to the real thing) ..

HINT> their pulled pork is pretty good, and if you ask for it they will make your sandwich without added sauce and bring you VooDooChile sauce to the table. That is their vinegar sauce. ALMOST like a trip home .... and definitely as good as I can get in Texas.
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Lost4words Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-19-06 10:14 AM
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24. Eastern Style for me, I'm looking for a good recipe.
Edited on Sun Feb-19-06 10:15 AM by 8643
anybody got one? For the sauce that is,.... I have the pork down.

I have heard it called lexington style also!
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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-19-06 11:14 AM
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31. Here's one from all recipes.com
* 1 cup white vinegar
* 1 cup cider vinegar
* 1 tablespoon brown sugar
* 1 tablespoon cayenne pepper
* 1 tablespoon hot pepper sauce (e.g. Tabasco™), or to taste
* 1 teaspoon salt
* 1 teaspoon ground black pepper


This person uses cayenne, I''ve seen more read pepper flakes myself. But,yeah, gotta have the hot sauce.
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bbinacan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-19-06 02:25 PM
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35. Lexington is
the western style.
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Guava Jelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-19-06 10:17 AM
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25. Kansas has them both whipped
we are excellent at barbq and bigotry here in ks
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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-19-06 01:38 PM
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33. another vote for KC
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Dervill Crow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-19-06 09:20 PM
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38. East, hands down.
The way my mama made it. Mmmmmm-mmmmmm!
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