Overappreciated 90's bands- post them here.

[GirlinContempt]

Oasis.

[asthmaticeog]

1. Stone Temple Pilots

Soul Asylum
Silverchair
Bush
Smashing Pumpkins
Pearl Jam
Crash Test Dummies
The Offspring
Green Day
Blur
Lush
4 Non Blondes
Sublime
Helmet
Collective Soul
Gin Blossoms
Hole
Candlebox
Alice in Chains

[GirlinContempt]

2. Wow

None that I really like. WOnder how that could be? :shrug:








:P

[Indy_Dem_Defender]

3. Damn, the funny thing is

all of those bands took themselves to serious, but when's the last time any of them besides Green Day has had a hit record. If Cobain hadn't killed himself you could have added Nirvana to that list and you wouldn't get a single post on here challenging that claim, but if you would have put Nirvana on the list be prepared to get flamed by mutiple DU members. :rofl:

[ghostsofgiants]

5. Silverchair started out as a Helmet ripoff band, basically...

But they seriously evolved and have put out some seriously good stuff in my opinion.

The rest I would agree with, however.

[SmileyBoy]

7. I'm putting you on my ignore list.

I absolutely LOVE over half those bands.

[asthmaticeog]

8. If compatible musical taste was a reason to put someone on ignore...

I'd be able to talk to a whole 15 people on DU.

[SmileyBoy]

9. I forgot to add the

:sarcasm:

:)

Maybe it's just because I grew up with alot of those bands, and there's a nostalgia factor.

[asthmaticeog]

12. I know what you mean.

Sorry I missed the sarcasm. :hi:

[last_texas_dem]

10. I think I have a different definition of overrated

Sure, many of those bands had a short period of major commercial success and achieved some level of popularity for a few years, but many of them, even at the peak of their success, were always hated by the critics. Bush and STP are like that for sure; yeah, a lot of people liked them, bought their albums, and they got a lot of radio play, but they were getting bashed by the critics all along, so who exactly was "overrating" them?

I agree with some and disagree with others on the list, in terms of whether I would classify them as "overrated", but it really just has to do with whether I like or dislike them... which I guess is the criteria most people use to determine whether something is overrated or not- if they dislike it. It's just hard for me to think of a group like, say, the Gin Blossoms being overrated when I've pretty much always had to defend being a fan to just about anyone I've discussed them with. It's the same with one of my favorite bands of all-time, Soul Asylum. If they're overrated, I'm wondering who is overrating them 'cause most people I know either don't like them (usually based solely on "Runaway Train") or have never heard of them (the vast majority). Anyway, that's just IMHO.

ON EDIT: Yeah, so I just wrote this whole post using the term "overrated" when the term "overappreciated" was actually used in the title of the thread, which I guess changes the context somewhat, if not too dramatically. Oh well, I feel stupid... Make of my ramblings what you will.

[GirlinContempt]

27. I don't know...

What you're basically saying is that a band isn't over rated if you don't personally know a large group of people that over rated them. It's an opinion based on personal observation :shrug:

"a lot of people liked them, bought their albums, and they got a lot of radio play, but they were getting bashed by the critics all along, so who exactly was "overrating" them?"

The people who bought their albums, screamed about their genius, threw themselves at their feet, and proclaimed them music for the ages, would be my best guess. Critics have very little to do with it.

[last_texas_dem]

34. Yeah

I guess my difference in definition has to do with whether someone is considering whether a band is overrated or not based on when they achieved their peak of popularity vs. what tends to be thought of them now. Many bands achieve popularity at some point but few sustain such popular or critical success; I think it is more accurate to consider what the general consensus on a band is after they have been around for a while. I don't really see considering a band during the time they were at the peak of their popularity a good way of determining whether a band is overrated or not, because it basically makes any band that achieved any level of success open to being called "overrated." Which I don't really have any problem with, as these musical judgments are all just subject to personal taste anyway, except that it basically just makes the determination of whether something is overrated or not come down to one's own personal opinion of the band.

But anyway, like I mentioned in my original post, my initial post wasn't really a suitable response in the first place because I misread the initial thread title as being "overrated" and not "overappreciated" which would change my argument to a point. I just didn't feel like deleting my post after the good, oh, three or four minutes or so it took out of my life for me to write it!

(And yeah, I like a lot of nineties "mainstream" rock... what can I say?:-))

[mitchum]

11. Agree with all of the above...

I would also add the Breeders to that list

[no name no slogan]

22. Other than the early Lush and early Blur

I would have to agree with this list. Sorry, the late 80s/early 90s shoegazer in me still has a soft spot for Lush (the pre-britpop stuff).

[rhino47]

26. Green Day ?? now thems fighting words nt

[Radical Activist]

30. Every band on that list is better than

95% of top 40 radio in the 80's. Apparently you don't like that genre, but that doesn't mean the entire genre is overrated.

[asthmaticeog]

32. I hated top 40 radio in the '80s, too.

I hate top 40 now. And likewise, I hated top 40 in the '90s, which just about ALL of that was.

I like that genre just fine - I love me some Soundgarden and Nirvana. I'll just say that for the most part, it wasn't the cream that rose to the top. The really impressive stuff, for whatever reason, remained stuck in the underground.

And I'm sorry, Crash Test Dummies, the Gin Blossoms and 4 Non Blondes aren't better than anything. Having a root canal in an outhouse while watching "Who's the Boss" would be preferable to enduring even one spin of "What's Going On."

[XemaSab]

4. I'll say what a certain #1 poster is too afraid to say:

Nirvana is WAY overrated!

[asthmaticeog]

6. Not *afraid* to say it.

I like their albums a lot.

[GirlinContempt]

15. Poster #0 agrees

[DS1]

311

[GirlinContempt]

28. .

:thumbsup:

[RandomKoolzip]

13. Nine Inch Nails! plus:

Eugenius

Pavement

Jesus Lizard (If they could have come up with ONE more song as good as "Glamorous," they'd have been worthy of the acclaim they received by hipsters. As it stands, they were basically a really good drummer accompanied by bland, unoriginal guitar noises and an exhibitionistic singer.)

Belle and Sebastian (I knew indie rock was becoming a horrid proposition when these losers became popular.)

Stereolab (ibid)

Lush, Curve, Garbage (I group them together because I always assumed they were the same lame-ass band)

Palace Brothers/Music/etc. (Although Will Oldham has redeemed himself with wonderful material from his "Hey-I-finally-learned-how-to-sing!" Bonnie Prince Billy persona, back then he was just goddamned unbearable to listen to.)

Smashing Pumpkins

Luna

Sebadoh/Folk Implosion

Pantera (although "(Respect) Walk" is a KILLER fucking song)

Arab Strap

Red Red Meat

Some Velevet Sidewalk

Bedhead

Unwound (ugh...just admit it, they were awful)

Any band that came out of Manchester in the early 90's, or just SOUNDED like they came out of Manchester in the early 90's: Ride, Charlatans, The Farm, The Beloved, Primal Scream (ESPECIALLY Primal Scream!), The Stone Roses, on and on and so tediously on...

Tori Amos (is she a band? Anyway, she sucked)

Red Hot Chili Peppers (and any band playing "funk-metal" or "Rap-metal" from that era)

Beck (Like the Jesus Lizard, if this schmoe could have shat out another tune as glorious as "Soul-Sucking Jerk," he would have been worthy of a quarter (a sixth?) of the plaudits shovelled his way.)

Superchunk ("Slack Motherfucker" is immortal, a fucking anthem for the ages. The rest of their catalogue is whiny, sloppy nothingness. Okay, I like "Watery Hands," too. But they've wasted my time more than I care to recall)



It's just too easy to single out the "grunge" bands (plus, I liked a lot of them, ESPECIALLY Stone Temple Pilots: seriously, they improved a LOT after that shitty first album; go download "Days of the Week" for proof....shit, it's only a dollar) and the radio-rock bands. Sometimes hipsters have a hard time accepting that their emperors wear no clothes.

[GirlinContempt]

16. You had me at Nine Inch Nails

:loveya:

[asthmaticeog]

17. I was about to go to the mat for Jesus Lizard...

...when it occurred to me that I haven't listend to them in YEARS, and don't really feel moved to ever hear 'em again. Just checked - I don't even have any of their discs anymore. Wow. Ya knocked the scales from my eyes.

And while I'm at it, fuck the Melvins. All the ideas they've ever had are on their first three albums, and they've been going on for like 15 years since then.

Superchunk are a "thing" for me - I've listened to and enjoyed their records, but come the end of side two, I could never remember a god damn thing I'd just heard. :shrug:

Finally, a nitpick: I think it's hard to call Eugenius "overappreciated" when their album stiffed and nobody would even know who they were had Nirvana not covered songs by Eugene's previous band.



PS: Dude, I love you, but STP sucks inside-out rhino ass.

[no name no slogan]

23. "Goat" by Jesus Lizard

is the only thing by them I still own. And Eugenius has always sucked-- even when they were Captain America.

And I find it hard to say anything mean about Stone Pimple Toilets. It's kind of like picking on the kids who rode the short bus.

[DS1]

14. Stabbing Westward

[Benfea]

18. Die, infidel!

I rather like Stabbing Westward. :P

[Droopy]

19. Nirvana

They weren't that good, but they had a new sound and somehow changed rock-n-roll. I'll give them props for being influential and I like a few of their tunes, but my damn new rock station still plays "Rape Me" and "Smells Like Teen Spirit." I think they should give it a rest.

[jakefrep]

20. I'll second that nt

[swag]

21. Pavement

[no name no slogan]

24. Pavement sucks goats

I never saw the attraction in them, either. Sloppy drunken college rock. The only good thing about Pavement was that The Wedding Present covered one of their tunes on their "Brassneck" single.

[asthmaticeog]

29. I saw one transcendentally brilliant Pavement show.

Then over the next couple of years I saw three crashingly boring Pavement shows.

Then I said "Hey, why the hell do I keep coming to Pavement shows?"

Then I fell asleep at a Sebadoh show and I was done with that lo-fi nonsense for good.

[no name no slogan]

31. Yeah, I used to do lo-fi too

mainly because all I could afford was a cheap $100 four-track cassette recorder and had to bounce everything two or three times so I could get more instruments on a demo tape. I never understood the whole appeal. Why is sounding shitty a badge of honor in so much indie-rock? Hell, even the Sex Pistols used decent gear (much of it was stolen, but that's beside the point).

You fell asleep at a Sebadoh show? Damn, that's cold blooded. :D

[no name no slogan]

25. Radiohead

I guess I just don't get it. I've never seen the attraction. They sound like an amalgam of a bunch of 80s bands I like, but I just can't relate. It's easier to listen to the 80s bands, I guess.

[GirlinContempt]

33. I liked some Radiohead

:shrug: