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Oeditpus Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-01-06 12:43 AM
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Baseball columnist about to be strung up by the cubes
I can't believe they put this on the Knight Ridder wire.

And while we're throwing around asterisks, you might want to put one next to Babe Ruth's name, too. All he did was play against white people. That was an unfair advantage of his era, not unlike steroids is to this one. In fact, Bonds playing on steroids against a world-wide talent pool is less of an advantage than Ruth facing a bunch of American white pitchers who had second jobs as plumbers.

http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/sports/14236560.htm
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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-01-06 12:45 AM
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1. WTF?
:grr:
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-01-06 12:46 AM
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2. the color line was a serious issue
but it in no way justifies Bonds' (alleged) use of steroids, or Mark McGwire's or Sammy Sosa's (or anyone else's).
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reyd reid reed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-01-06 01:02 AM
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3. Absolutely doesn't justify it...
Edited on Sat Apr-01-06 01:03 AM by reyd reid reed
I mean...just...holy shit.

He actually said that? I hope he's been saving his pennies....
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Oeditpus Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-01-06 01:04 AM
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4. Just be glad you don't work at a KR paper
You'd have to take the phone calls. :scared:
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reyd reid reed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-01-06 01:05 AM
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5. Oh, God...
Oh...man...I'd NEVER get...hell...

I don't even wanna THINK about it

:scared:

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KitchenWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-01-06 01:38 AM
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6. That is fucking disturbing.
x(
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k_jerome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-01-06 02:00 AM
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7. a respected sports columnist and commentator...
joining others that question the timing and motives behind this "investigation"

outrageous.
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reyd reid reed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-01-06 02:09 AM
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8. Of course
The timing of the investigation is...convenient. And the motivation is suspect.

But to compare steriods and human growth hormone and whateverthefuckelse was rubbed, injected or injested by these athletes with...

That's ridiculous.

Patently ridiculous.

Hank Aaron broke Babe Ruth's record. He did it without HGH. Without the Clear. Without anything. And he hit against pitchers from all over the world.

It's not his questioning the investigation or the book or the guilt or innocence of the players involved. Go for it. Fine. Opine away. But don't bring race into it.


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k_jerome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-01-06 02:12 AM
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9. did you read the article?
he actually discounts race as the primary motivation in investigating bonds
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reyd reid reed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-01-06 02:16 AM
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11. I did
Edited on Sat Apr-01-06 02:17 AM by reyd reid reed
And he does, more or less. But he had already made his point. It was in extremely poor taste, IMO, and he's gonna get his balls handed to him.

(edited to add: And if he doesn't, he should)
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k_jerome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-01-06 02:27 AM
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18. what do you mean by get his balls handed to him?
have you heard what many baseball people are saying about this investigation? joe torre?
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Derailer Donating Member (332 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-01-06 06:18 AM
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26. Your hero Babe Ruth was on horse steroids
Guess you don't like him any more either, huh?

Oh, and Lou Gehrig too
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Oeditpus Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-01-06 02:13 AM
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10. 'respected sports columnist and commentator'
:rofl:
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k_jerome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-01-06 02:19 AM
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12. miami herald columnist...
written for maxim, espn the magazine. appeared on pti, outside the lines, gameday.

your credentials? i won't laugh.
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KitchenWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-01-06 02:19 AM
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13. Dan Le Batard is a tool.
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k_jerome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-01-06 02:28 AM
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19. that is a well thought out response.
did you see what torii hunter said about this farce of an investigation?
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KitchenWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-01-06 02:36 AM
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21. Yes I did, and I disagree with Torii Hunter
and apparently I disagree with you.

Dan Le Batard's being on ESPN, PTI, etc etc says nothing about his talent, it says more about his ability to suck up than anything.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-01-06 02:45 AM
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KitchenWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-01-06 02:44 AM
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22. By the way, this is the lounge
If I do not feel like making a well thought out response, I do not feel obligated to post one.
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k_jerome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-01-06 02:46 AM
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24. that is good to know...
see post 25. i am learning.
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KitchenWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-01-06 02:47 AM
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25. ...
:eyes:
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reyd reid reed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-01-06 02:22 AM
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14. Doesn't make him God.
Doesn't make him right, either. Or any less tacky...



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k_jerome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-01-06 02:23 AM
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15. i didn't say he was god...
i agree with much of what he says. if you don't, i certainly won't insult you for it.
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reyd reid reed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-01-06 02:25 AM
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16. It's not that I disagree with what he's saying...
I just don't think he said it well. And I think that he crossed a line...

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k_jerome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-01-06 02:26 AM
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17. what specifically do you mean? nt.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-01-06 02:34 AM
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Pithlet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-01-06 12:32 PM
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27. Locking.
This discussion has turned into a flamewar.
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