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Up2Late Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-21-06 06:10 PM
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Poll question: Did you go to and Ivy League School as an under-grad?
Edited on Fri Apr-21-06 06:11 PM by Up2Late
Not that it matters much, but I want to test a theory I have.

I didn't have room for: Other (I went to an Ivy League School as a Grad-Student, please specify), but you can write it in if you want.

Note: the schools are not listed in any particular order.
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Up2Late Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-21-06 06:18 PM
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1. kick n/t
:kick:
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AlienGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-21-06 06:18 PM
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2. Dartmouth and Yale started sending me recruitment letters in high school
I didn't think there was any way I could ever pay for those kind of schools, so I never bothered to reply. :shrug:

Tucker
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Lolivia Donating Member (176 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-21-06 06:27 PM
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3. What is your theory? n/t
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Up2Late Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-21-06 08:30 PM
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10. My theory is what you see, so far in the results...
...that we probably don't have too many Yale Grads here.

Other than John Kerry, just about every sleazy or shady politician I've heard of in the last few years, have turned out to be a Yale Grad, and usually are Republican.

I really wasn't expecting so few Ivy League grads though.
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-22-06 12:32 AM
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27. It's not so common out here
Edited on Sat Apr-22-06 12:32 AM by XemaSab
The university system in California is WAY the f*** better than that punk-a** s*** you guys have back east!

:P
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Autonomy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-22-06 03:38 AM
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37. Amen. Berkeley rules. I miss it so much! n/t
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Ramsey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-22-06 09:18 AM
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41. Don't forget Princeton
We graduated Don Rumsfeld and Sam Alito! Dinesh D'Souza was in my class!

But we made up for it with Brooke Sheilds. :evilgrin: And Bill Bradley.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-21-06 06:38 PM
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4. You forgot the "Sisters" n/t
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Up2Late Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-21-06 08:39 PM
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13. The "Sisters?" Oh, you mean like Barnard College?
I don't know the names of those, I'd love a list like: Columbia = Barnard etc.

BTW; I only know Barnard because my Dad is a Columbia Grad, and he's mentioned Barnard before.
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liontamer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-22-06 03:36 PM
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45. the seven sisters are a set of women's only schools
back when other colleges wouldn't admit women. although I think Barnard might be the only one that still all female.
They are: Barnard, Bryn Mawr, Mount Holyoke, Radcliffe, Smith, Vassar, Wellesley
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RB TexLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-21-06 06:39 PM
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5. You forgot Harvard On The Bayou n/t
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Up2Late Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-21-06 08:32 PM
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12. Sorry, I don't know that one...
...what is school is "Harvard On The Bayou?"
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-21-06 08:57 PM
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15. I think Vassar, Radcliffe and Welsley (sp) are among the sisters
there are also a few comparable schools to the ivys not included - in terms of prestige and presence in the political scene: University of Chicoago, Stanford and a few others.
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Mayberry Machiavelli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-21-06 10:20 PM
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24. Radcliffe is now part of Harvard. It's not really its own entity anymore.
There's no single sex women's college of Radcliffe. The buildings that used to make up Radcliffe are now administrative buildings and also makeup the "Quad", the three upperclass "Houses" that are a little north of the rest of campus. Women are admitted to Harvard through the same process and pool of applicants as the men.
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Texasgal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-21-06 06:40 PM
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6. I went to SMU
does that count? :blush:
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RB TexLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-21-06 06:42 PM
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7. I saw someone with a t-shirt on today

"Harvard, the SMU of the Northeast"
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-21-06 06:43 PM
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8. nope, state school grad.
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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-21-06 06:46 PM
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9. NOPE!
:bounce:
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evlbstrd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-21-06 08:32 PM
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11. Nuh uh.
I majored in the useful field of Painting.
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Up2Late Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-21-06 09:07 PM
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19. Really? Well here's an odd coincidence. I was just today...
...going through my "Art box" that holds my old art supplies from when I took an art class, in Photography school.

I haven't used the water-color paints I had used then, in what I now realize was 21 years. It doesn't seem that long ago.

What was odd was, all the colors I have are in small sealed tubes (they look like miniature tooth paste tubes), they are all the same size and the same brand (Grumbacher), but 2 of the five colors feel dried out, but the others seem fine.

Lamp Black, Cadmium Red, medium and Ultramarine Blue all seem fine, but the Cadmium Yellow, Deep and the Chinese White are both dried out. The yellow is still a little soft, but the white is as hard as a rock.

Oh, and the price tag says $1.35, in case you were wondering.
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evlbstrd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-21-06 09:31 PM
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22. Sounds like the right price for the time.
Those were decent paints. The old Prang tins o'Paint will work if you've got nothing else (hell, you can even paint with coffe or tea). If you can get the dried paint out of the tube, you can water, because they're watercolors. Also, get rid of the white. Unless what you really have is tempra paint. With watercolor, the paper is the white.
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Reverend_Smitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-21-06 08:41 PM
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14. Nope...state school all the way
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Southsideirish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-21-06 09:00 PM
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16. Loyola (Chicago) - a commuter school.
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Nikia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-21-06 09:01 PM
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17. I decided not to apply to the Ivy schools
I would have had to taken the SAT II subjects tests and didn't think that I would do too well on them. I was just below the 25th percentile for their accepted student SAT scores so it probably would have been good to retake those as well. I may have had a chance though if I didn't blow the subject tests because I had 6 A's at a local 4 year school and may have been able to get recommendations from those professors one of who was a Harvard grad. I was also well rounded and would have been someone who didn't fit the mold of a typical Ivy student.
I applied to 3 colleges which I thought I would probably get into although they were competitive. I got into all 3 and went to the one that gave me the best financial aid package. I have heard that Ivy league schools, especially Harvard and Yale give very good financial aid packages to poor students, so I encourage all qualified students to apply.
Some of the students where I went applied and were accepted at Ivy schools and chose not to go there. One of my college friends made specific mention of visiting Princeton and mentioned that they had elite dining clubs, which all the non losers belonged to. That attitude really turned her off to the school.
I have heard that at all the schools there is tension between the monied elite and the outstanding students from poorer backgrounds. One of my aquaintance's sister from another high school went to Dartmouth, though, and said that it wasn't too bad in that respect.
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caledesi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-21-06 09:06 PM
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18. Origin of the term "Ivy League" (it's not what you think)
Over a century ago, an interscholastic athletic league was formed by Harvard, Yale, Columbia and Princeton. It was officially known as the "Four League." The Roman numeral "IV" was often used instead of the word four and the term "IV League" came into use. When spoken, the IV was spelled out and sounded like "Ivy League." Brown, Dartmouth, Cornell and Pennsylvania were the major opponents of the IV league, and in the early 1900's were members of the league
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Up2Late Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-21-06 09:18 PM
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21. Very interesting, I didn't know that. I'll have to tell my Father...
...that one. He's a Columbia Grad (BS and MBA).
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caledesi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-21-06 10:45 PM
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25. I even asked someone who was a Brown grad and he didn't
Edited on Fri Apr-21-06 10:48 PM by caledesi
know. I LOVE word and other phrase origins.

I always thought it was IVY bec of the ivy on the walls. Grew up in NE and saw a lot of IV league schools.

Hey UP2Late, tell me what he says.
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LibertyLover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-21-06 09:14 PM
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20. University of Chicago
undergrad. IIRC, early on, when UofC had a decent football team (Amos Alonzo Stagg era), it was in the same league as Harvard and Yale. Later Chicago decided to drop out and focus on "life of the mind". Of course the minor fact that their stadium was slightly radioactive might have had something to do with that decision. :)
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Yavin4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-22-06 04:10 PM
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48. Wouldn't A Radioactive Stadium Make Their Players Better?
Most super-heroes got their special powers through exposure to radioactivity.
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tarkus Donating Member (780 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-21-06 09:49 PM
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23. Brown next year
With financial aid, the cost of tuition was comparable to what the University of Kentucky could offer me so I don't feel too guilty. Besides, it is probably one of the more leftist schools in the country, certainly in the Ivy League, so that is always a bonus.
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driver8 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-22-06 01:42 AM
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30. I got accepted to Brown but didn't go.
It was very, very expensive (early 80's) compared to SUNY schools. My parents had two kids in college at the same time so I went to a State school.

I always wondered what life would have been like had I gone to Brown.
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WeRQ4U Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-21-06 11:39 PM
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26. Nope, University of North Dakota....
Go Sioux.

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Random_Australian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-22-06 12:34 AM
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28. I have no idea what the freak you are talking about, but I'd like to say
Edited on Sat Apr-22-06 12:34 AM by Random_Australian
good poll. Whatever it was about.
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Up2Late Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-22-06 01:24 AM
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29. The Ivy League (or IV League as someone pointed out) are mostly...
...small, very expensive, rather exclusive Private Universities in the North Eastern part of the U.S., and most of our politicians seem to go to those schools.

Here's a link for more info: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivy_League>
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-22-06 01:44 AM
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31. It's where the wankers go...
You either have to have a VERY high GPA, have relatives who went there, have a boatload of money, or all three to go. :P
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Nikia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-22-06 10:26 AM
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42. At many of them, you don't need a lot of money
A poor student can end up with less out of pocket cost than going to a state college. I have a link to Harvard's program. http://www.news.harvard.edu/gazette/daily/2006/03/30-finaid.html
Poor students should not hesitate to apply.
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wickerwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-22-06 02:47 AM
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32. I got into UPenn
but when I went to visit I *hated* Philadelphia. I have never in my entire life gotten such a negative vibe from a city. I can't even describe it. Since then, I have never had a trip to Pennsylvania that wasn't a huge screaming disaster. No offense, Pennsylvanians. I'm just jinxed in that state.
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Seabiscuit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-22-06 02:54 AM
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33. I went to Philadelphia once and it was closed.
Edited on Sat Apr-22-06 02:54 AM by Seabiscuit
Seriously, Philadelphia always gave me the creeps too. Something about it is just enormously depressing, and even more so because I can't put a finger on it. Just an overwhelming negative vibe. My vague memories are of it always being grey (overcast).
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Up2Late Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-22-06 03:14 AM
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34. I can top that, the only time I ever went to Philadelphia I got VERY Sick.
I mean, as soon as I got out of the car, and wasn't even out of the parking garage yet, I was puking by guts out.

I ended up laying on a park bench for several hours (with my mom, I was 12), while my Brother and Sisters went to see the Liberty Bell with my Dad.

That night, when we got to Washington D.C., it was off to the Emergency Room in Arlington, VA. I had Strep Throat.
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Seabiscuit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-22-06 03:27 AM
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35. Philadelphia's been known to do that to people.
Edited on Sat Apr-22-06 03:33 AM by Seabiscuit
Sometimes I think "Code Brown" was coined with Philadelphia in mind.
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Autonomy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-22-06 03:45 AM
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38. I was born in Philthadelphia, raised outside the city...
I went back to Philthy for law school three years ago and got very sick. I had to take a medical LOA. I went back again the next year and got sick again. This time I dropped out. Now I'm not sure about law school, but one thing is for sure: I'm never living in Philthadelphia ever again!
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Yavin4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-22-06 04:13 PM
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49. The American University, Washington, D.C. Class of 1986
Yep. going to college during the Reagan era was interesting indeed.
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wickerwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-22-06 06:09 AM
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40. My Philly horror stories include:
* a $400 speeding ticket for a friend who was delivering blood for hospitals.

* the time I tried to bring my passport in person to get it updated and was told (after 2 hours on a train that I had to mail it anyway- the woman wouldn't take it in person)And they spelled my name wrong on my bloody passport

* coming within ten feet of being hit by lightning (hit a telephone pole instead)

* some asshole refusing to let me sit near the toilet on an airplane when I was very, very sick (I was heading to Philly and suspect strongly that he was a native)

* spending time with my Philly cousin (a story for another time)...
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Seabiscuit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-22-06 03:34 AM
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36. Bezerkely via Oberlin College.
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Autonomy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-22-06 03:48 AM
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39. they lerned me lots wen i goed to burkley
like how to hang owt on telegraf avinew all nite befour a test.
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Up2Late Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-22-06 01:47 PM
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43. Yeah! No Yale Grads here!
That means we can talk about them.
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Broken_Hero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-22-06 02:12 PM
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44. Nope...
I went to a federally funded University in Lawrence, Ks...Haskell Indian Nations University, the whole student body was 100% American Indian, and damn near 99% of the staff, both teachers, janitors, maintence, and everyone else was American Indian also...
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Yavin4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-22-06 04:09 PM
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46. Ivy League Schools Are Worth The Tuition For One Reason
The strength of the alumni. Ivy League alums look out for one another in the job market. The education quality at all universities is a commodity. Accounting from one school is the same as the Accounting at another. The quality of the education is what you make of it.

The premium that Ivy League schools offer is their alumni network. It's far easier getting that first job out of college if you have an Ivy League degree. A lot of major employers, corporations, government, even non-profits, only want Ivy Leaguers.
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Nikia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-22-06 04:46 PM
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51. I remember reading somewhere
That a poor high schieving student greatly increases his/her earning potential by an Ivy league degree rather than a state college degree. A student from a rich family does not increases his/her earning potential very much. That is because the Ivy league gives the student from a poorer background a network. A student from a rich background already has a good network.
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-22-06 04:10 PM
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47. University of Houston - 1964-1968
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gizmo1979 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-22-06 04:14 PM
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50. No but I have Ivy in the
backyard and I can't teach it a thing.
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xmas74 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-22-06 05:51 PM
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52. Nope.
Went to a small private college close to home. I didn't even try for any of the Ivy League schools.

I did apply to some decent schools and was accepted (Notre Dame, Drake, Marquette, Washington University-even University of Missouri and University of Wisconsin are very good schools and I was easily accepted to both) and was accepted to a few decent all-girls schools(St. Mary's, Stephens College and William Woods). My family convinced me that I couldn't afford a "major" university and they were dead-set against me attending an all-girls schools (even though Stephens offered me a full ride).

A classmate from high school attended Princeton. I see his education as being no different than another classmate that attended a local state university. The only difference is the name recognition.
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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-22-06 06:05 PM
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53. what's your theory?
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