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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 07:52 PM
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Ever use a Mk19?
It makes lots of noise :-)

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BrotherBuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 08:00 PM
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1. Nope. I was a wussy Combat Engineer
and never touched anything larger than an M-60.
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 08:15 PM
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8. I would've traded my job to be a CE in a heartbeat
x(
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BrotherBuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 08:31 PM
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15. I had no choice, I was drafted
:shrug:
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 08:39 PM
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21. doh!
Glad you made it back out
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GOPisEvil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 08:01 PM
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2. Some days I'd like to mount one of those on my car.
You know, on days that end in "y". ;)
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Fenris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 08:05 PM
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3. Ooooh! Roadtrip to Sixth Street!
:D
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GOPisEvil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 08:10 PM
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6. So many targets...so little time....
:D
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Fenris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 08:22 PM
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12. Hipster doofus coming out of Emo's on your left!
Fire at will!:D
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 08:25 PM
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13. I realized something the other day


Suicidal Tendencies. Emo kids with skateboards.

4. How Will I Laugh Tomorrow

Here I sit and watch my world come crumbling down
I cry for help but no one's around
Silently screaming I bang my head against the wall
It seems like no one cares at all
Always an emotion, but how can I explain
How can I explain
Kind of like the scent of a rose
With words I can't explain
The same with my pain
Caught up in emotion-Goes over my head
Goes over my head
Sometimes I got to think to myself is this life or death
Am I living or am I dead
The clock keeps ticking but nothing else seems to change
Problems never solved, just rearranged
And when I think about all the times that I've had
So few good-So many bad
I search for personality and I look for things I can not see

Love and peace flash through my mind
Pain and hate are all I find
Find no hope in nothing new
Never had a dream come true
Lies and hate and agony
Thru my eyes that's all I see
If I'm gonna cry
Will you wipe away my tears?
If I'm gonna die
Lord please take away my fear
Before I drown in sorrow
Last thing that I'll say
How will I laugh tommorow
If I can't even smile today
Today today--when I can't even smile today
Today today--when I can't even smile today
How will I laugh tommorow--when I can't even smile today
How will I laugh tommorow--when I can't even smile today


5. The Miracle

I sailed forever, I sailed so far, and now I know
just what the consequences are
I laughed out loudy, while I cried inside
But I didn't haave the strength to say enough of this ride
Like a fool-I believed in a miracle
I wanted to forget, of what I'm not sure
But I found an answer-it seemed to be a perfect cure

Controlled my actions, controlled my thoughts
Controlled my feelings, and now I feel my body rot-like a fool

I believed in the miracle

Twisting and I'm turning-freezing then I'm burning
Laughing then I'm crying-am I living or am I dying
Swearing then I'm praying-don't even know what I'm saying
Happy then so sad-forgiving then so mad

Do you still, do you still believe, do you still believe in,
Do you still believe in miracles?

Pushing then pulling-who am I fooling
A friend then a foe-do I really even know?
Love and then hate
Peace then at war-but what am I fighting for
And you always try to
Keep me-oh so sleepy
So I can't realize-that it's all lies
And the more it takes hold of me-the less chance that I'll ever be free
And even though I don't believe-it's so hard to leave-a miracle-a miracle

Waiting-always hesitating-for that perfect day-that day was yesterday
And the more you're gonna wait-the more of a chance that it will be too late

How can you afford to wait, you just can't afford to wait
I shed a tear I won't deny it, but just one tear I already cried it
And now you'll see me cry no more, don't even know what I was crying for


6. Suicyco Mania



7. Surf And Slam



8. If I Don't Wake Up

Why do I wake up in the morning-nothing's changed since the day of my birth
Why do I wake up in the morning-I make no difference on this earth

Strength has left-has to be-something has died inside of me

If I don't wake up in the morning-at my funeral would anyone care
If I don't wake up in the morning-would anyone even be there

You can put me down-you can put me out, you can try to ignore
But now you're gonna hear me when I shout WAKE UP

Why should I wake up in the morning-it be just another wasted day
Why should I wake up in the morning-don't do nothing right anyway

That was then-not anymore-now I go blasting out the door

I'm gonna wake up in the morning-I'll prove you wrong I will not fail
I'm gonna wake up in the morning-I'm gonna blaze a brand new trail

Might not be smart, but if I'm strong
I know for sure no one ever will prove me wrong


9. Sorry ?!

Seems like such a long time ago, but I don't know if I'm ever gonna let
her go. I remember the first time that I met her, I knew she was the
one. There couldn't be anybody better.
Well, I was lost when I looked in her eyes
Well those eyes, those eyes, they made me realize...
Sorry...I didn't know what was to be
Sorry...I could not see
Sorry...Lord how could this be
Sorry...It's raining down on me
Well, I know it sounds crazy to say. But, in everything I do, I think
about that day. Last time I talked to her was on the telephone. She
said I know it's been a while, but I don't feel like being alone. I
slammed down the phone on the last thing I'd hear her say. Now it's
getting harder to live with it every day and I pray, I pray that you
can hear me say
Sorry...I could not see
Sorry...It don't seem fair to me
Sorry...Lord, how could this be
Sorry...It's raining right down on me
Not a day goes by when I do not sit and wonder why this had to be. It
don't seem fair to me. No no, it don't seem fair to me. The more I wish
and pray, the more it seems I waste away. But it would mean oh so much
if I could just reach out and our hands would touch and if I'd just
go back again and do it all over it'd have a happy end.
I know exactly the way I would start. I'd send her a letter straight from
my heart. It doesn't seem fair, why can't I forgive. She was so strung out,
she didn't even have a chance to live and it's oh so hard to forgive.
Sometimes people think I don't know what to say because I'm looking
out in space, but inside I'm praying and I pray, I pray, I pray, pray,
pray and then I think about the day she died. About that night and
in the morning. I cry cry cry and I try, I try to understand
Sorry...I didn't know what was to be
Sorry...It don't seem fair to me
Sorry...Lord I'll always be
Sorry...She died but it's killing me
Wondering about that time when it'll be my day
And I wonder what I'll do and what she'll say and if I'll have the
courage to stay
And I'll start by looking her straight
in the eye and telling her that I'm Sorry


10. One Too Many Times

Never good at talking, so many things I couldn't say
But those thoughts never went away
And I'm sure you remember, said that all I wanted was sympathy,
Now add this to your memory

Too many times-I felt so sad and lonely
Too many times-I needed someone there
Too many times-I tried to tell you something
Too many times-It seemed like no one cared

And I don't like asking-and it's not easy to say...
I never learned how to pray
So if you have a moment it means so much to me oh can't you see...
If you'd just say a prayer for me

Too many times-I didn't even have a second
Too many times-you thought I was much too strong
Too many times-you said the feeling wouldn't last forever
Too many times-I proved you so damn wrong

Saw the changes-thought they'd go away-do you still remember that day
Can't really fault you-only have myself to blame...
But do you still feel the same

Do ya, do ya, do ya, do ya, do ya?
But I waited so long-for someone to take my hand, and say they understand

And I waited so long-for someone to show the way-to make a better day
and I waited so long-for someone to spare a kiss for the love I miss
And I waited so long-for you to looke me in the eye
And say it's worth another try
But yo keep me waiting-waiting-too many times

You keep me waiting, one too many, one too many, one too many times,
Too many times
One too many one too many one too many times too many times
Can't you see yo keep me waiting-one too many times


11. The Feeling's Back

I wrote a letter just the other day to nobody in particular
But if anyone were to read a bit-they'd think I was a bit peculiar
But it matters not what they think of me, it's only what I know is real
And so all that's left that matters now-is that the feeling's back

The feeling's back and you just can't stop it
The feeling's back and you just can't stop it

I fought a thousand times-I never knew the meaning of the word fear
Till that one day when I stood alone-staring straight into the mirror
It's not a pretty sight-and even worse it's so hard to face
Until I realize I'm the only one that put me in this place

I'm gonna breathe I'm gonna live-that's right-nothing's gonna stop me
I7m gonna shout I'm gonna scream-that's right-nothing's gonna stop me
I'm gonna run I'm gonna fly-that's right-nothing's gonna stop me
I'm gonna fight I'm gonna win-that's right-nothing's gonna stop me
Nothing's gonna stop me, nothing's gonna stop me now...
Cause the feeling's back and you gotta love the feeling

I dug my hole too deep-I couldn't admit, I didn't know when to stop
But you can only dig your hole six feet until the dirt comes back on top
I've got a long way left to climb but I'll still look you straight in the eye
And I can honestly say I'll never quit-not even on the day I die
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Fenris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 08:31 PM
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14. I never noticed that before. That's really sad.
:D

Not

sad, but sad. :D
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GOPisEvil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 08:35 PM
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17. Only one??
Can't we take out a whole gaggle of them? :D
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 08:36 PM
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18. You don't even want to know
;-)
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Fenris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 08:46 PM
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23. Black framed glasses and vintage sweaters everywhere!
*for the record, my plastic-framed specs are copper colored;)
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 08:49 PM
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27. If you need, I'll break out the Sailor Fenris picture to prove it
;-)
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Fenris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 08:52 PM
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31. I would, but my glasses are black in that picture.
Those have been retired. Although if you wish to break out Sailor Fenris, I won't stand in your way. ;)
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 08:57 PM
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38. *drum roll*




and, as a Saturday night two-fer!



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GOPisEvil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 08:50 PM
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29. Lest we forget the polyester slacks and western shirts...
...oh, and trucker caps.

Oh the carnage...
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 08:52 PM
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30. You could use the trucker cap to scoop up the remains
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GOPisEvil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 08:52 PM
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32. It'd leak through the mesh.
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Fenris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 08:54 PM
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34. Rockmount...classic hillbilly wear made useless by scenesters!
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GOPisEvil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 08:57 PM
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39. I once found a really sweet vintage western shirt...MOP snaps and all...
Then I decided I didn't much care for looking like every other hispter slacker in this town. It WAS a cool shirt though...
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AccessGranted Donating Member (687 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 08:08 PM
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4. No, but I shot an M60, an M16 and a Grenade Launcher
When I used to be a "soldier girl".
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Neoma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 08:09 PM
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5. Meh.
Guns, nope.. :puke:
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 08:14 PM
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7. It's not really much of a gun
but it does fire a shitload of grenades a very long distance in a very short amount of time :bounce:
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Neoma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 08:18 PM
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10. But since it kills.
Bad gun! Very bad gun!}(
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Magrittes Pipe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 08:17 PM
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9. No.
Baddest thing I ever fired was a 12-gauge. At a beer can.






Tore the fuck out of that can.
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BikeWriter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 08:20 PM
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11. That's a cute noise maker, very cute! ;-)
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jmowreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 08:34 PM
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16. Mk.19s are fun!
Okay, not fun if you're at the downrange end of one...

Now understand, the reason lots of guys join the army in peacetime is to get the chance to go to the field and blow shit up. If you want to see big-ass smiles erupt on the faces of guys who beforehand did a lot of scowling, just take a Special Forces Operational Detachment A and tell 'em the single-shot charge limit on your base's range complex is 10,000 pounds of C-4. Fuck, man, I think we set off earthquake sensors in Switzerland...

Bad war story from Bush 41's third war: 10th Mountain sent its entire Military Police company to Somalia, and all of their vehicles were armed with Mk.19s. About a month in, the MI battalion got a call from the provost marshal: send two five-ton trucks, one Humvee and one sergeant to Griffiss Air Force Base to pick up a shipment. I got to be the sergeant. We went to Griffiss...to pick up all the MPs' Mk.19s. It seems that an MP who'd been in the army all day saw someone run into a little building at the end of this street, decided it was one of Aidid's men, and fired a whole box of Mk.19 shells into the building. They couldn't have gotten the pieces much smaller with an atom smasher.
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 08:37 PM
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20. A box?
Shit, 3 would have done the job, redundantly. And that 10,000 lbs of C4 sounds like an expensive morale builder
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jmowreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-30-06 06:33 AM
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46. It wasn't a morale builder at all. There was a good reason for it.
The demo range on Fort Drum is ten acres with lots of stumps, tank parts, doors, all sorts of fun stuff. They, and we who were training with them, rigged up hundreds of little scenarios containing various amounts and kinds of explosives--some dynamite, some TNT and some C-4. (C-4 is 1.31 times as powerful as TNT, so if you can set off 10,000 pounds of C-4 you can set off 13,100 pounds of TNT and still be in compliance.)

One of the things they were trying to do was to build a doorknocker out of det cord...theirs didn't work, but my MI guys out there came up with something that did.

Anyway, we built everything from improvised landmines to cutting charges, to simulate every feasible scenario in which you'd want to blow something up in combat. We worked hard all day. I called the mess hall and got them to make us a field dinner, which we brought out and ate...and after dinner, we set all of the explosives off in one shot.

- - - - -

About the grenades: ONE would have done the job. We think the guy just got scared shitless and wouldn't get his thumbs off the trigger. A whole box was definite overkill, which is why the guns all came back to the US.

The real advantage of the Mk.19 is that it gives small units their own accurate indirect-fire capability, which they never had before this thing came out. Think of it as a mortar for units that don't have mortarmen.
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In_The_Wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 08:37 PM
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19. I did some target practice with one of these many years ago.



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liberaltrucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 08:47 PM
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24. Joni with an M16?
Remind me not to piss you off.

:scared:

:rofl:
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 08:47 PM
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25. If it's the model in the picture, it'll be jammed after the second shot
;-)
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In_The_Wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 08:49 PM
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26. It never jammed.
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liberaltrucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 08:50 PM
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28. Whew!
:cleans out shorts:

:rofl:
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In_The_Wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 08:56 PM
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37. That was a long long time ago.

Now I stick with my handgun.
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liberaltrucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 09:04 PM
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40. Well, I STILL won't piss you off
Edited on Sat Apr-29-06 09:09 PM by liberaltrucker
LTwife is armed with a Glock 17 9mm. I don't piss her off either!
She has police firearms training(although she's an RN) and updates
her training yearly(it helps to have a cop in the family).

I'm old school. I stick with a S&W Model 9 357Mag snubby.
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In_The_Wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-30-06 09:55 AM
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47. I used another one for a little practice back in '68.






I'm really a sweetheart now.


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liberaltrucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 08:44 PM
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22. Cool!
We may need a few of those in the not-too-distant
future. Thank God(or your Diety of choice) there
are MANY progressives with combat training.
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EstimatedProphet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 08:53 PM
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33. No, but Barbie does
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 08:55 PM
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35. no dammit!
the casings come out the bottom! :banghead:
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GOPisEvil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 08:55 PM
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36. That's not regulation hair...or uniform...
Why isn't Ken feeding the belt? Useless fucker.
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jmowreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-01-06 08:12 AM
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48. It's not a Mk.19, either!
That is your basic M2 heavy-barrel Browning 50-caliber machinegun, the brainchild of General John "Black Jack" Pershing.

Ma Deuce is such a wonderful weapon. Everyone needs one.
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-01-06 08:13 AM
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49. And a really good friend to carry it
:D
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Brother Buzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 09:25 PM
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41. I played with the W-45 MADM and the Mk-54 SADM
but never used them. You know what I mean, Vern?

The W-45 Medium Atomic Demolition Munition (MADM)



Above: A view of the interior components of the MADM, showing (from left) the packing container, warhead, code-decoder, and firing unit. (1 to 15 kiloton implosion design weighing 400 pounds).

The Mk-54 Special Atomic Demolition Munition (SADM)



Above: The carrying case for the Mk-54 SADM, which had a yield from .01 to 1.0 kiloton. The entire unit weighed less than 163 pounds. (methinks the componets of the 'suitcase' may still be classified for good reason)

Oh, we used the trusty M-79, M-16, and M-1911, to protect our evil toys.
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 10:20 PM
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42. MADM... Madam
cute ;-)

Never seen one of those taken apart, but what with miniturization these days, the suitcase nuke is probably a fanny-pack nuke.
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Brother Buzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 10:51 PM
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43. I think they have gone about as far as they can go
Unless they make a huge breakthrough with some newfangled fuel, anything smaller would just create a dirty nuclear 'fizzle'; in essense, a VERY expensive dirty bomb.
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 10:54 PM
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44. Well circuitry from the 70s could now fit in the space of a postage
stamp, with quadruple redundancy. Hell, it would probably fit on the tip of a pencil. Sure, the nuclear material can't shrink, but everything around it can.
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Brother Buzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-29-06 11:18 PM
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45. I considered the circuitry very small back then....
Heck, some of the technology I saw may even have been used on Apollo 11 to go to the moon; it didn't exist in the industry for another decade. They have gone about as far as they can go.
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