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deadparrot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-02-06 08:44 PM
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Man charged with potty training torture
Warren County, Ohio - An Ohio man accused of torturing his four-year-old grandson in an effort to potty-train him was indicted by a grand jury on Monday.

David Hubbard of Turtle Creek Township in Warren County has been charged with endangering a child.

Police allege the abuse took place in Hubbard’s home in Shadow Lake Village mobile home park.

He's accused of using plastic wrap to tie the boy to a child toilet seat, rubbing the boy's nose in urine, using duct tape to keep peppers inside his mouth and duct-taping him to an entertainment center.

http://www.tampabays10.com/news/local/afternoon/article.aspx?storyid=30181
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MissB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-02-06 08:49 PM
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1. My mother used a switch to potty train me.
Somehow, that seems far less barbaric than this guy's choice. (Not that I'm advocating a switch to train anything - human or animal).

I do joke that I'm going to duct tape my kids to the wall. But really, it is just a joke.
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Peanutcat Donating Member (492 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-02-06 08:50 PM
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2. Just what the fucking hell is wrong with people like that?
Insane bastard.
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rurallib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-02-06 08:52 PM
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3. Why do I think this man is a Bush supporter?
:grr: :grr:
Wonder how he raised his own kids. Almost wonder why his kids would leave the child alone with Grandpa.
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Neil Lisst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-02-06 08:57 PM
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4. Please ask all young parents to read Dr. Barry Brazelton on this.
When we were expecting our first many, many years ago, I got a bunch of books on child birthing and early rearing, and Dr. Brazelton dealt with potty training very wisely. He explained so well how to do it right.

He was right! It worked great.

These people who get evil with babies like this! It hurts my heart to even hear of it.
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moc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-02-06 09:03 PM
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6. I've met T. Berry Brazelton several times.
He's a real dear. :loveya:
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Neil Lisst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-02-06 09:11 PM
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8. I think I had 3 of his books on child rearing.
I used to have a whole library on child rearing, which I started while the first one was on the way. He really had a lot of sound ideas. I think his gentle and understanding way with little ones impressed me most, and communicated the importance of not yelling at them.
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moc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-02-06 09:01 PM
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5. I have an almost 4yo son who is not potty trained. Sure, it's
frustrating, but nothing, NOTHING justifies treating a child like that.

I've gotten into online debates with parents who think that a drop of pepper sauce on the tongue is appropriate discipline. Sorry, but in my opinion, it's on the same continuum as what's described in this story. It's all WRONG.
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Berserker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-02-06 09:10 PM
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7. Some children learn
slower that others. But if you could give me 5 minutes with that fucker he would learn a bunch real fast that you don't ever treat children like that.
Piece of shit.
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Jazz2006 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-02-06 09:19 PM
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10. Hear, hear.
And if you don't live near the scumbag, I'll pitch in for your airfare, Berserker.

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Jazz2006 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-02-06 09:17 PM
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9. Children all learn at their own speeds, but it seems they all manage to
start school walking, talking and toilet trained. And you're absolutely right. Nothing, but NOTHING, justifies treating a child like that.

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LeftyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-02-06 10:50 PM
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15. My kid was past four when he finally learned to use the potty
And at five and a few weeks he still has the occasional accident. It's really not the end of the world and I don't know why people get so worked up about it.
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bleedingheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-02-06 09:21 PM
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11. The guy is a sadist....
I was trained on a potty that had a feature that kept you locked in via a tray...there are literally pictures of me sitting on the potty chair coloring...the kinds of photos my brother brought out to torture me with...

I let my kids walk around in wet underwear for a bit and they realized that dry undies were so much more comfy and started using the toilet... did I torture them...??? Hell no...they realized that wet feeling is nasty...in my opinion kids who wear real cotton diapers are potty trained faster because of this very issue...my nephews and neice were all going on the potty by 18 mos to 2 years...because wet cotton diapers are icky...

However this jerky father is a pig a sadist and probably wasn't raised so differently from what he was doing to this child...
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Arkansas Granny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-02-06 09:46 PM
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12. Agreed. I can't imagine what kind of harm he has done to this
little boy with this treatment. Like you, I used cotton diapers and training pants. When my kids realized how much better dry pants felt, and how much praise they got for using the potty, the training almost took care of itself.
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bleedingheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-02-06 10:26 PM
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13. doesn't make you want to cry that people treat children like this..
it just breaks my heart...
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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-02-06 10:30 PM
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14. A Bullet Through The Skull Would Seem Appropriate, Ma'am
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